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StarTopic Nintendo General Discussion |ST32 May 2024| Endless Ocean Season!, Paper Mario Season!

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Suswave said:
that's magnetic storm baybeeeee

further out it appears almost like faint cloud striations. get to a dark enough place and stare... and you'll realize that they look like an unknowable wind blowing fine sand across a plain, and the light is sometimes moving

look closer... there are colors???

pull out your phone if you can't tell... try to take a picture... and you should see a glowing confirmation of your senses — the aurora
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I had a friend say she couldn't see it at all (and she's considerably further north than me) but when she pulled her phone camera out there it was. The fact that our cameras can perceive it in some cases where we can't is amazing (and a little creepy in a Fatal Frame sorta way 😅)

Suswave said:
I am breaking my triple-post protocol for the aurora because it's the right thing to do

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gorgeous
 
Mandos said:
But can you play the ddr machine?
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Unfortunately no but you can destroy the arcade cabinet and pick up the nes controller in your mouth. I'm actually impressed with how well the game plays. I kept expecting to fall off ledges, especially the thinner ones, but I never fell off unless I meant to. The precision jumps work extremely well too.

I also found a katana and picked it up too.
I stole a cell phone and hid it. They should have been watching where they were going instead of having their head buried in the phone
 
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Tornado sirens going off right in the middle of a tough Fire Emblem battle. So like a true Ohioan I packed up everything and headed to the basement and I'm continuing the fight down here. 😎
 
EvilChameleon said:
Tornado sirens going off right in the middle of a tough Fire Emblem battle. So like a true Ohioan I packed up everything and headed to the basement and I'm continuing the fight down here. 😎
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Which game? I just finished Fates Conquest the other day so I’m in a real FE mood

Hope you’re safe, by the way. Probably should have started with that.
 
switchum said:
Which game? I just finished Fates Conquest the other day so I’m in a real FE mood

Hope you’re safe, by the way. Probably should have started with that.
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Engage. Chapter 17, which is the furthest I have gotten in this game. So everything from here on is new to me.
And thanks! No idea how we're getting tornado warnings when the temperature isn't even reaching 60, but here we are...
 
Persona 3: Unfinished
Unicorn Overlord: Not started
Ghostwire Tokyo: Just Started

Perfect time to start a new Tears of the Kingdom playthrough tonight
 
for anyone worried about light pollution: I mean yeah, find a good pocket in the dark preferably. people were pulling off the highway on the side of the road and looking up last night, including us.

Canadian highway though so like still be careful and smart about it

but... once we got back...

we could still see them over our apartment. in fucking Toronto!

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over lake huron at midnight

(we made that damn rental car COUNT)
 
Layalseif said:
With MS Paint?
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perhaps in spirit, but definitely not in practice

figured the lifehack for all my abandoned game projects was "stop worrying about things not being good enough, make it shitty in a fun way"
 
SammyJ9 said:
Wow, 20 years ago?



I had forgotten that E3 used to be in May
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This was the first E3 I could watch "live" because my family had just upgraded from dial up to broadband internet. I couldn't actually watch the conferences live but I did download them, along with a bunch of trailers, watched them in Windows Media player. I think I had a folder just labeled Game Trailers saved on my PC. I even had multiple versions of Nintendo's press conference, one with the official audio and a few from the the media where you can hear the reactions more.
 
HockeyBird said:
This was the first E3 I could watch "live" because my family had just upgraded from dial up to broadband internet. I couldn't actually watch the conferences live but I did download them, along with a bunch of trailers, watched them in Windows Media player. I think I had a folder just labeled Game Trailers saved on my PC. I even had multiple versions of Nintendo's press conference, one with the official audio and a few from the the media where you can hear the reactions more.
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should've just watched them on DVD like everyone else
 
I couldn't for the life of me tell you what year it was, but one of my earliest E3 memories was the intro GameSpot used one year that had their hosts flying around in UFOs or something.
 
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HockeyBird said:
This was the first E3 I could watch "live" because my family had just upgraded from dial up to broadband internet. I couldn't actually watch the conferences live but I did download them, along with a bunch of trailers, watched them in Windows Media player. I think I had a folder just labeled Game Trailers saved on my PC. I even had multiple versions of Nintendo's press conference, one with the official audio and a few from the the media where you can hear the reactions more.
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I just started being online at the time and just happened to navigate to Nintendo’s website the day after E3. Imagine the sheer joy of discovering that trailer randomly.
 
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Mekanos said:
It's kind of funny that the reaction to this I think cemented to Nintendo that they will probably never do a 3D Zelda with a kid Link again.
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People went apeshit over a mature looking Zelda game.

Which is kinda funny, since Windwaker at the time was seen as a shitty kids game, meanwhile now it’s fondly remembered.

Really makes you think how companies tried their best with being edgy. Also wolfs for some reason.
 
SammyJ9 said:
Wow, 20 years ago?



I had forgotten that E3 used to be in May
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lmao at the Game Awards tweeting this

simultaneously "y'all remember games?" and "hoohoo remember E3? their corpse is in our closet" and "wild amazing Nintendo Zelda moment! remember how we had a BotW DLC spotlight one time and now Nintendo doesn't give us shit?"

that said, if we're uh. doing this anyways.

I remember seeing the trailer on the internet and thinking it was funny that they showed off a fucking Balrog.

Windows 95 or 98, I think... but who could say these days?

I was worried it would be too self-serious. And it kind of was... but in the end also less so than it seemed! Which was a surprise and a relief.
 
Steve said:
People went apeshit over a mature looking Zelda game.

Which is kinda funny, since Windwaker at the time was seen as a shitty kids game, meanwhile now it’s fondly remembered.

Really makes you think how companies tried their best with being edgy. Also wolfs for some reason.
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Wind Waker always ruled and that was one of the many times as a kid I recognized that I kind of hated people on game forums and people's priorities sucked shit.

oops

maybe some kid out there is looking at my posts now thinking that they kind of hate people on game forums and that my priorities suck shit.

sorry kid. godspeed and good luck out there.
 
Suswave said:
"wild amazing Nintendo Zelda moment! remember how we had a BotW DLC spotlight one time and now Nintendo doesn't give us shit?"
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hey… they’re still giving us Switch ads, which isn’t saying much.

At least we got this from the game awards.

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Suswave said:
in case anyone thinks I was joking about @Skittzo and I's cursed bargain... it's all true

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Suswave said:
and you thought the days of smash crossover reveals were over...

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it is extremely funny to me that the shitpost I spent an hour or more on got half as many Yeah!s as the one I threw together in two seconds

ain't that just the way
 
Stilt Village said:
I've always wondered how you're supposed to read these things. Cross? And? With? Ecks? Times?

I think it broke me when I heard someone say that the one in Hunter x Hunter was silent. At that point, what is anything anymore? We're in Kingdom Hearts territory, and I should just give up. I don't know why I'm despairing over this.
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I will say ecks until someone makes them all make sense (challenge: impossible)
 
Speaking of Twilight Princess, I remember this being my most anticipated magazine release ever

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Yes, back in the day when magazines were still one of the best places to get info and screenshots. I poured over this issue for months.
 
"THE WORLD'S MOST CRITICALLY ACCLAIMED SERIES GROWS UP AND WE'VE GOT THE EXCLUSIVE REPORT INSIDE"

EGM getting the scoop from Zelda's Quinceañera.
 
Steve said:
People went apeshit over a mature looking Zelda game.

Which is kinda funny, since Windwaker at the time was seen as a shitty kids game, meanwhile now it’s fondly remembered.

Really makes you think how companies tried their best with being edgy. Also wolfs for some reason.
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Twilight Princess isn’t nearly as edgy or dark as it was hyped up to be at the time - which looking back it is weird that it was actually seen as a good thing and “righting the ship after kid-y Wind Waker”. But that’s the mid-00s for you.

Probably the most emblematic sign of the times was when God of War 2 and the movie 300 both launched within a week of each other in March 2007. I remember being kind of excited for them both (I was 18 at the time) but also feeling kind of… slightly icked out by it all too.
 
SammyJ9 said:
Twilight Princess isn’t nearly as edgy or dark as it was hyped up to be at the time - which looking back it is weird that it was actually seen as a good thing and “righting the ship after kid-y Wind Waker”. But that’s the mid-00s for you.

Probably the most emblematic sign of the times was when God of War 2 and the movie 300 both launched within a week of each other in March 2007. I remember being kind of excited for them both (I was 18 at the time) but also feeling kind of… slightly icked out by it all too.
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lmao, sure was a fucking time alright

desperate grimdark didn't do anyone or anything many favors. and I mean. at least it was a style. but it didn't need to be the style
 
Twilight Princess wasn't really any darker than Ocarina of Time and of course Majora's Mask already existed which remains the darkest game in the series. I think it may seem darker because of the graphical style and longer, more detailed cutscenes but in terms of what happens in the story, it's similar to what came before it. The game has moments of levity, a bunch of weird characters, Midna is probably the most playful of the Zelda companions.

I think in that EGM issue I posted, I think the person from Nintendo (I forgot who they interviewed for the story), said that graphical style and character designs were more inspired by anime. It really wasn't trying to Lord of the Rings although you definitely see some homages to the movie trilogy specifically in the final game.
 
Suswave said:
Wind Waker always ruled and that was one of the many times as a kid I recognized that I kind of hated people on game forums and people's priorities sucked shit.

oops

maybe some kid out there is looking at my posts now thinking that they kind of hate people on game forums and that my priorities suck shit.

sorry kid. godspeed and good luck out there.
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This was actually one of my first fights about video games. ALL of my friends were Coobers but this and Sunshine were "baby games" about stupid bullshit like "cleaning". I couldn't let their slander slide.

And I'm still fighting Sunshine slander on this very web zone!
 
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TP is probably one of the few times Nintendo pivoted 180 to please fans with a safe, audience-approved pitch (which makes sense because Nintendo was concerned about the North American market losing interest in Zelda). Aonuma also pretty much was forced by Miyamoto to make the game as punishment for WW underperforming. I really like the game and credit for me getting back into the series but it is definitely a fascinating relic of its time that is one of the most derivative entries in the series.

My problems with Wind Waker have always been gameplay-related rather than the visuals or story.
 
HockeyBird said:
Speaking of Twilight Princess, I remember this being my most anticipated magazine release ever

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Yes, back in the day when magazines were still one of the best places to get info and screenshots. I poured over this issue for months.
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As both a game fan and a car fan I gotta say I really miss magazines.

There was something so special about checking the magazine stand at the grocery and finding a new issue with a kickass cover and snatching it up and waiting till I'm at home to read about all the shit I couldn't afford.

Now it's all on our phones, meaning the shit I can't afford lives in my pocket. Following me. Taunting me. Daring me to not just look at it but to look at what other people are saying about it. An absolute nightmare scenario.
 
chocolate_supra said:
As both a game fan and a car fan I gotta say I really miss magazines.

There was something so special about checking the magazine stand at the grocery and finding a new issue with a kickass cover and snatching it up and waiting till I'm at home to read about all the shit I couldn't afford
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Amen to that! I love reading about games as much as I loved playing them.

... now Famiboards is my gaming magazine.

Oh and magazines also used to have those feelies too. Cool promotional cards, game demos, rad stuff like that.
 
The wait for Twilight Princess seemed crazy long to me, which is funny considering how long I ended up waiting for Tears of the Kingdom. I remember my excitement at finally being able to play it, as well as waiting an hour the day of the reveal in 2004 to download and watch the 1 minute trailer. And then my excitement for the new GDC trailer the following spring. I'm always sad that the weird giant tree person you see in that second trailer never crops up in the finished game and I'm not sure if there's any information on what was planned there. Plus, the moblins from the reveal trailer (very clearly a model mapped to a similar rig to Wind Waker's moblins, judging by their attack animation) also never appear; presumably that was a very early build of the fire temple that would morph into the very different Goron mines albeit with the same boss fight at the end.

It definitely did get caught up in that obsession with grimdark and gaming 'growing up' in the mid 2000s that actually often just resulted on some silly and bombastic games, like the Gears of War series (which I loved, sure, but it was silly, and coincidentally it launched around the same time as Twilight Princess). But Twilight Princess was always somber as opposed to grimdark or anything else, and it still has the odd humour that characterises Zelda, like the whole world freezing as the gangly postman yells at you and begins his approach. I'd say maybe the bittersweet elements are more prominent in Twilight Princess, which is fitting given the 'twilight' element of it. Tonally, it does hit some more solemn and serious notes than the preceding games pretty early on. Zora's domain's attack at the hands of Zant is much more on the nose, given the Queen's death, and even earlier segments like Zelda already seeming defeated and imprisoned makes it a more subdued game than the whimsical heroism of Wind Waker. But that's only fitting for each game.

Man, sure would be good to play them both on Switch... but I'll take a new 2D game over that.
 
meatbag said:
Oh and magazines also used to have those feelies too. Cool promotional cards, game demos, rad stuff like that.
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Also pictures that were bigger than my phone

But yeah demos were crazyyy
I had a subscription to Official Dreamcast Magazine and they had demo discs with (I think) every issue so I ended up with a fat stack and had a ton of hours sunk into just playing through the first levels of a ton of DC games. Hell of a library that machine had.
 
MisterSpo said:
Man, sure would be good to play them both on Switch... but I'll take a new 2D game over that
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Whatever happened to those rumored Wind Waker/Twilight Princess ports anyway?

chocolate_supra said:
I had a subscription to Official Dreamcast Magazine and they had demo discs with (I think) every issue so I ended up with a fat stack and had a ton of hours sunk into just playing through the first levels of a ton of DC games
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Demo disc every issue is crazy! Our gaming mags got maybe three of those in a good year.
 
chocolate_supra said:
Also pictures that were bigger than my phone

But yeah demos were crazyyy
I had a subscription to Official Dreamcast Magazine and they had demo discs with (I think) every issue so I ended up with a fat stack and had a ton of hours sunk into just playing through the first levels of a ton of DC games. Hell of a library that machine had.
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Sigh, I miss that. I always bought (overpriced) UK mags for those discs. I still have some I think.
 
meatbag said:
Whatever happened to those rumored Wind Waker/Twilight Princess ports anyway?
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If they're real - and I'm inclined to believe some version of the HD remasters were ported to Switch, even if they were perhaps not finalised - I think it's unlikely they were ever planned for release between 2018 to 2022. At an early stage in Switch's lifespan Nintendo were sorted for Zelda titles up to 2022 (Hyrule Warriors DE was out in 2018, Cadence, Link's Awakening, Age of Calamity, Skyward Sword HD, Tears of the Kingdom were all either in development or being planned by late 2018). It's difficult to know what Nintendo's pre-pandemic timeline was, but it seems pretty clear to me that, from an internal perspective, Nintendo likely never felt short of Zelda content in the Switch era.

This year onwards, all bets are off. Even if they didn't appear this year, the remaster heavy approach to Switch 1 titles will probably continue the next few years, so they might yet make it to Switch.
 
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