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Discussion According to @Brazil podcast 'X do Controle' Nintendo Switch 2 will release in march 2025 - Summary updated [Eurogamer is corroborating]

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Yeah third parties aren't going to want to wait to announce their games until after the holiday season, so an early announcement makes some sense still. Doesn't mean Nintendo has to go crazy marketing the thing until the new year.
 
Darknut85 said:
@SoldierDelta has made a plausible theory how the 2025 release date could be wrong:

It shows a realistic alternative interpretation of the things VGC, Brazil and Bloomber heard from their sources. Switch 2 launches in 2024 while most 3P games target Q1 2025 (since the only things sources said was that A: many games target Q1 2025; B: Nintendo briefed devs on Q1 2025). Yes, it‘s maybe unlikely, but there still are possibilities that Switch 2 delay isn‘t true. We shouldn’t write off a 2024 release yet.
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It's a possibility, but not "plausible" since, again, we have intercontinental sources.

If it was just one source, then you could call it plausible.

Multiverse said:
None of this is remotely believeable to me. How does “Brazil” know Nintendo’s full direct schedule including their new hardware reveal lol?

Pyoro is the only legitimate leaker atm.
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The direct schedule just sounds like informed speculation.
 
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This is slightly off topic but I came into some money recently and wanted a new console. I stood there at my local department store in excitement. My girlfriend has her own Switch that I play on occasionally in addition to myself owning a few older systems (PS2/PS3/360) and was seriously considering the PS5 since I had impulse buy money lol. I digress, after mulling it over I left without purchasing anything.

I was disappointed at first however finally realized later that I seriously cannot justify purchasing Playstation or Xbox anymore. The high cost being one reason. I've been interested in dabbling in VR and the PS hardware is over 500 dollars alone. The software completely misses the mark too with cross gen, remakes of games a couple years old, nearly everything on PC, unsatisfied with all the AAA drivel they put out, paid online, price gouging, push for all digital ect.

So even though the Switch is in it's twilight I ended up getting the OLED from a local seller instead. It also came with the official pro controller, a grip, 512gb SD card, and nice hard shell case for $300 all day. I've also still got a few dozen games from when I owned a lite. I couldn't beat the deal. The only other thing I might consider in the future is a steam deck.

Nintendo can take all time they need with the successor to get it right. They are the only ones getting my business moving forward.

Bring on the Switch 2!
 
Darknut85 said:
@SoldierDelta has made a plausible theory how the 2025 release date could be wrong:

It shows a realistic alternative interpretation of the things VGC, Brazil and Bloomber heard from their sources. Switch 2 launches in 2024 while most 3P games target Q1 2025 (since the only things sources said was that A: many games target Q1 2025; B: Nintendo briefed devs on Q1 2025). Yes, it‘s maybe unlikely, but there still are possibilities that Switch 2 delay isn‘t true. We shouldn’t write off a 2024 release yet.
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Counterpoint: Nintendo has a history of trying to shut down widespread rumors about their hardware (see: their posts about Gamescom and the OLED's profit margins). The fact that NCL has refused to comment on the reported delay even as their stock fell 9% feels damning.
 
Paxie said:
Counterpoint: Nintendo has a history of trying to shut down widespread rumors about their hardware (see: their posts about Gamescom and the OLED's profit margins). The fact that NCL has refused to comment on the reported delay even as their stock fell 9% feels damning.
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They could just wait, because if Nintendo revealed Switch 2 in March for 2024 and everyone thinks it‘d come in 2025 how would the reaction be? I know, it’s rather unlikely but possible.
 
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A June announcement for Q1 release would feel so strange. Just to poopoo on Switch sales for 6+ months, including the holidays, which are on the decline but still solid after 7+ years. But I guess that's just how shit works out sometimes.
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If you're definitely going to have a Q1 release, you either basically have no time between announce and release, or poo on Christmas. Pick your pooson.
 
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For reference, "Bernstein" references Bernstein Research, a investment research firm that is subsidiary to a global securities company
 
Paxie said:


For reference, "Bernstein" references Bernstein Research, a investment research firm that is subsidiary to a global securities company
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Ahh yes the Bernstein research company

very familiar with them myself

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Now we know who to blame for Switch 2 coming out in 2025
 
Lozjam said:
If the Switch is so delayed, then all of Nintendo's development partners need a solid excuse to miss software targets. They will need to release information on it so third parties can start announcing their games too.

I'm really guessing the dam will be broken too, we are going to have far more than a handful of games at launch. In which case, third parties need a lot more time to market their games. Everyone is going to want a slice of the pie here.
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i know GDC is usually tight-lipped, but with it more and more it sounds like the switch 2 delay was a relatively recent and unexpected decision I'm half expecting Massive leaks for GDC this year
 
If the Switch 2 is planned for March 2025, I'm feeling that Nintendo will reveal the Switch 2 before the end of this year. Follow the same schedule as with the Switch 1.

Switch 2 Reveal Trailer - October/November 2024
Switch 2 Press Event & Software Launch Lineup - January 2025
Switch 2 Launch - March 2025

Every 2 months or so (6 months combined from reveal to launch) there is more info regarding the system up until it launches to the public.
 
shoichi said:
If the Switch 2 is planned for March 2025, I'm feeling that Nintendo will reveal the Switch 2 before the end of this year. Follow the same schedule as with the Switch 1.

Switch 2 Reveal Trailer - October/November 2024
Switch 2 Press Event & Software Launch Lineup - January 2025
Switch 2 Launch - March 2025

Every 2 months or so (6 months combined from reveal to launch) there is more info regarding the system up until it launches to the public.
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I'm pretty sure if Nintendo waited to November to announce the Switch 2 when they were originally going to announce it in March people will go crazy and the whole thing will leak.
 
Meelow said:
I'm pretty sure if Nintendo waited to November to announce the Switch 2 when they were originally going to announce it in March people will go crazy and the whole thing will leak.
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Right now the casual consumer doesn't know about how the Switch 2 was even planning on coming out this year. All announcing in March 2024 will do will hurt sales of the Switch 1 more than it has even if a price drop occurs alongside it, announcing it in Fall/Winter will allow more sales to come in before the official announcement reveal even if it hurts the Holiday rush but probably make up for it somewhat by a price drop/bundles to clear inventory. There is no positive news revenue wise for them to announce it in March 2024 and wait a full calendar year before the product hits the shelves if it is indeed now planned for a March 2025 launch instead.

Leaks regarding spec sheets, design, etc. will likely be coming out. But it won't be official until Nintendo officially releases media about it.
 
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SpaceGodzilla said:
i know GDC is usually tight-lipped, but with it more and more it sounds like the switch 2 delay was a relatively recent and unexpected decision I'm half expecting Massive leaks for GDC this year
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We also have to take into consideration that if this delay is indeed due to software, Nintendo is probably going to be in full production very soon. They are going to want to pump up those units to meet demand for the launch. Meaning, that the console itself is definitely going to leak soon.
 
Lozjam said:
We also have to take into consideration that if this delay is indeed due to software, Nintendo is probably going to be in full production very soon. They are going to want to pump up those units to meet demand for the launch. Meaning, that the console itself is definitely going to leak soon.
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If by "full production" you mean mass production, know that announce/reveal and begin of mass production has historically happened at the same time.

I am skeptical they'd start mass production this soon and keep producing for a full year before the supposed release month of March 2025 (at earliest). It costs money and space to store all those units that won't be sold to the public for months.

Switch 1 release got delayed from Summer 2016 to March 2017, for software reasons (BOTW). The announcement occurred on October 2016, around the same time they began mass production (4.5 months before March 2017).

This is to show there's precedent for Nintendo delaying start of mass production if the release is delayed.

For that reason I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo ended up canceling the March reveal as well, because the begin of mass production has been delayed to a later month.
 
shoichi said:
Right now the casual consumer doesn't know about how the Switch 2 was even planning on coming out this year.
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I think we underestimate the casual consumer sometimes in that regard.
Anecdotally, I have three friends who purchased a Switch (for their kids) around christmas of last year.
People often read about a product before buying it.
They all knew about the rumors that a new one should come this year and asked me, if they should wait.

Which supports your point that revealing it too early might harm the sales, but on the other hand, I think it is important that 3rd party publisher can announce their games this year with a Switch 2 logo next to it.
 
Horror Kid said:
I think we underestimate the casual consumer sometimes in that regard.
Anecdotally, I have three friends who purchased a Switch (for their kids) around christmas of last year.
People often read about a product before buying it.
They all knew about the rumors that a new one should come this year and asked me, if they should wait.

Which supports your point that revealing it too early might harm the sales, but on the other hand, I think it is important that 3rd party publisher can announce their games this year with a Switch 2 logo next to it.
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Agree, practically everyone reads rumors from Switch 2 on the internet (even if they don’t search actively for it) or hear it from someone they know.
 
Since this news did go out since last week, I am less active on Fami than before. Trying to rest for a bit, I guess..

Anyway, I talked about this with a friend, and talked about my speculation. But, I do find it suspicious that in the investors Q&A furukawa said that information not officially announced by Nintendo can be misleading and that we need to exercise our good judgement, and a week after that, we hear from inside sources that the release and reveal is delayed, which also is 2 weeks before March would begin, where we initial thoughts the reveal was supposed to happen. I'm not hating on these people, but my initial thoughts on this, was that Nintendo might release misinformation on purpose to fight these inside sources, but also surprise everyone with a march 2024 reveal and 2024 release.

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But that friend o' mine also explained to me that, because this news came from multiple 3rd parties, that my speculation might not be the case.

Regardless of that, I still wanted to let you hear my thoughts.

Now I'm going back to the backalley huffing copium from this
 
Apenknul said:
Since this news did go out since last week, I am less active on Fami than before. Trying to rest for a bit, I guess..

Anyway, I talked about this with a friend, and talked about my speculation. But, I do find it suspicious that in the investors Q&A furukawa said that information not officially announced by Nintendo can be misleading and that we need to exercise our good judgement, and a week after that, we hear from inside sources that the release and reveal is delayed, which also is 2 weeks before March would begin, where we initial thoughts the reveal was supposed to happen. I'm not hating on these people, but my initial thoughts on this, was that Nintendo might release misinformation on purpose to fight these inside sources, but also surprise everyone with a march 2024 reveal and 2024 release.

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But that friend o' mine also explained to me that, because this news came from multiple 3rd parties, that my speculation might not be the case.

Regardless of that, I still wanted to let you hear my thoughts.

Now I'm going back to the backalley huffing copium from this
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It's always worth waiting on hearing it from Nintendo before making it gospel, but when so many sources are corroborating (just as they were for the spring reveal/holiday release) then it becomes hard to ignore.

I do believe this is 100% what's happening, and let's face it, a lot of sources confirmed Switch Pro, then the existence of another product that wasn't Switch Pro, then OLED appeared with traces of 4K capabilities in the hardware, and finally stories of Pro's development and subsequent cancellation followed.

That's the double-edged sword of having these sources, shit changes internally in the blink of an eye.
 
Darknut85 said:
Agree, practically everyone reads rumors from Switch 2 on the internet (even if they don’t search actively for it) or hear it from someone they know.
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I just asked all my neighbours in the building what they think of the Switch 2 rumours, they pretended to not know what I was talking about so of course I insisted that they must have read it on the internet or someone must have told them, they kept denying it, the liars.
I kept insisting and they called the police, so thanks guys.
 
shoichi said:
Right now the casual consumer doesn't know about how the Switch 2 was even planning on coming out this year. All announcing in March 2024 will do will hurt sales of the Switch 1 more than it has even if a price drop occurs alongside it, announcing it in Fall/Winter will allow more sales to come in before the official announcement reveal even if it hurts the Holiday rush but probably make up for it somewhat by a price drop/bundles to clear inventory. There is no positive news revenue wise for them to announce it in March 2024 and wait a full calendar year before the product hits the shelves if it is indeed now planned for a March 2025 launch instead.

Leaks regarding spec sheets, design, etc. will likely be coming out. But it won't be official until Nintendo officially releases media about it.
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Honestly I don‘t think hardware sales matter much at this point. Many of those late Adopters might not be interested in new hardware anyway. For example my Mom wants a Switch since she saw me playing Animal Crossing, she dosen’t care at all if there was a better/new hardware she could play this game on.

Keeping up Software Sales and User Interaction seem far more important. If they communicate early enough that you can play the games you buy now on the next console and services stay the same, people will keep buying games for Switch even if the next hardware is already announced.

PS4 also didn‘t fall completely of a cliff even though we knew quite some time ahead around what time PS5 was coming.
 
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Armoured_Bear said:
I just asked all my neighbours in the building what they think of the Switch 2 rumours, they pretended to not know what I was talking about so of course I insisted that they must have read it on the internet or someone must have told them, they kept denying it, the liars.
I kept insisting and they called the police, so thanks guys.
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Practically anytone=most Switch owners
 
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Guaraná said:
today he and his partner will release a new episode of their podcast, if he adds something I'll let you guys know.
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Thank you in advance :)

New informations on Switch 2 will always be interesting, but I also hope to have news, today or in the next few weeks, on the next Nintendo Direct, the one in March and/or the one in April.
 
Darknut85 said:
I have huge respect for people who can bear listen to podcasts (nothing against Brazil, podcasts are just to boring and long for me in general, with few information stretched over hours).
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Gaming podcasts are great for when I’m playing a mindless game.
Keep it running in the background as chatter lol
 
Apenknul said:
Nintendo might release misinformation on purpose to fight these inside sources
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This is a common theory, either when a rumor turns out to be false, or to optimistically (or pessimistically, I guess) hope that a recent rumor is false. But as far as I know, there is no evidence that Nintendo have ever done this.
 
I just love we went from sources confirming something in March and a release this year to the total opposite. Sadly I saw this coming.
 
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Giancarlo said:
i know this is impossible to happen, what if Nintendo anounce Switch sucessor during the Game Awards 2024
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I don't know what Geoff Keighley could possibly do that could convince/offer anyone at NoA, let alone NCL, to reveal their console at a third party event that wouldn't be on their terms.

The original Switch reveal presentation was made private on YouTube, so we can't see how many people have seen it, but the Game Awards apparently boasted 118 million people tuning in globally in 2023.

fake edit: Although a Forbes liveblog from 2017 suggests 400K were watching on YouTube and another 176K on Twitch prior to starting, so maybe they should consider a wider impact of an audience, but I don't know.
 
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