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Discussion According to @Brazil podcast 'X do Controle' Nintendo Switch 2 will release in march 2025 - Summary updated [Eurogamer is corroborating]

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So Nintendo (allegedly) canceled a pro revision and now (once again, allegedly) they've delayed their next-gen device?

Either they're absolutely terrified of the transition or their software just isn't ready.
 
I mean, it's still close to being in the next 12 months and if they have an alright lineup and a good marketing campaign leading up to launch, I can live with it.

It mainly feels like a drag because we've expecting a Pro or 2 every year for three years now and it starts to seem like next Jan there will be need that it will be delayed to 2026 ;)
 
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Procheno said:
It'd make more sense if the Switch 2 release in Brazil was 2025 since they're a lower tier country in the eyes of the market (hence why most manufacturers pulled out of there)
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Hmm that’s a pretty good thought. Idk how Brazil works, but we know some countries get systems later. But I’d imagine Brazil the poster on here is talking about the initial major launch.
 
Man Switch 1 is gonna be a damn zombie this year, at least they're going to finally acknowledge the successor exists soon
 
VegiHam said:
Maaaaaaan what. That's so far. Feel like we've been hearing "next march" for years now.

Nintendo have, like, nothing releasing this year too. How have they let themselves get into a 2016 situation again? What are they even doing over there?
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It’s tough to fault Nintendo specifically here when the entire industry is in a pretty weird slump now. You’ve got major publishers internally cancelling/delaying large titles, one of the big 3 completely shifting their business model away from exclusivity, and Sony outright telling their investors don’t expect any major titles from us for the entire FY (after already having sporadic releases the year prior).

The reasons could be pandemic catching up, current global/Japanese economic climate, or a combination of industry specific factors, but it doesn’t seem to me as being exclusive to one HW manufacturer or publisher.
 
Firstly, thank you for all the Infos you provideto us and the translation, but at the End something doesn't add up for me, why reveal in March 24 and then Release it in March 2025?

Also the whole Partner Showcase with no First Party Games beyond March Stuff... that doesn't make any sense to me.
 
This report is like the worst case scenario Nintendo could choose. Announcing the system 1 full year before the release, killing all the Switch momentum that's left by doing a presentation in June only to not release it until 9 months later, launching just small games for Switch and doing an absolute disaster of holiday campaign.

I'm sure Brazil is a reputable person and I don't think he is lying in the slightest, but something just doesn'd add up in my head.
 
i would be fine with 2025, I am not in the biggest rush for new hardware

I was even telling my friends this last year and the year before, as long as games keep coming

sucks for no system in 2024, but I would rather have a great launch with games from 1st and 3rd parties

if it really is q1 2025, I am sure Nintendo carefully considered everything and made the best decision
 
Truno said:
So Nintendo (allegedly) canceled a pro revision and now (once again, allegedly) they've delayed their next-gen device?

Either they're absolutely terrified of the transition or their software just isn't ready.
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I do think they are worried about their transition. Historically they have had issues and they are riding very high right now.
 
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Lintendo said:
Firstly, thank you for all the Ibfo9s an teh translation, but at the End something doeasn't add up, why reveal in March 24 and then Rlease it in March 2024?

Also the whole Partner Showcase with no First Party Games beyond March Stuff... that doesn't make any sense to me.
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I mean he said there are more games he doesn’t consider them “major” though
 
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I love that his handle is Brazil. "Brazil says no Nintendo Switch successor this year" sounds like a very odd NY Times headline.

Edit: Negotiations between Brazil and Japan broke down this week over the release of the latest Nintendo video game console at the G8+5 conference in Bonn.
 
Lintendo said:
Firstly, thank you for all the Ibfo9s an teh translation, but at the End something doeasn't add up, why reveal in March 24 and then Rlease it in March 2024?

Also the whole Partner Showcase with no First Party Games beyond March Stuff... that doesn't make any sense to me.
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Yeah I'm with you, this would be a nonsensical move IMO. But Brazil is a reliable source, so....I don't know what to think. I guess we'll find out.
 
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Nintendo would announce the system in March more for investors' sake than for fans' sake. The next fiscal year starts in April and the pressure will increase on Nintendo to show signs of how they're going to proceed. One way of doing that is officially acknowledging they have new hardware to launch in the new fiscal year, but then refusing to comment further. That also allows them to include new hardware in their new forecasts in May 2024.

That being said, if hardware is parked at the very end of the next fiscal year, next week's Partner Showcase makes very little sense. A lack of first party software for a year up to new hardware is exactly the kind of weak transition Nintendo have been desperate to avoid. I think it's possible for them to run up a fairly decent line up for the holidays; Pokemon gives them an easy heavy hitter this holiday and it's feasible the next Mario Party is ready, too, which would be another potentially strong seller. Throw in Metroid Prime 4 and you have a core title for the enthusiasts.

They can't last from April to October just on Paper Mario and Luigi's Mansion 2, though, so a lack of first party news this month would be deeply odd. Perhaps Fire Emblem and even more re-releases are planned.
 
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I just don't believe this, not with the abysmal First party schedule they have and the upcoming Partners Showcase.
 
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Truno said:
So Nintendo (allegedly) canceled a pro revision and now (once again, allegedly) they've delayed their next-gen device?

Either they're absolutely terrified of the transition or their software just isn't ready.
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Or "insiders" don't know shit.
 
I mean, if true, it’s impressive how dedicated Nintendo is to making sure they absolutely crawl and scrape to their next console release.
 
jadorsomething said:
It’s tough to fault Nintendo specifically here when the entire industry is in a pretty weird slump now. You’ve got major publishers internally cancelling/delaying large titles, one of the big 3 completely shifting their business model away from exclusivity, and Sony outright telling their investors don’t expect any major titles from us for the entire FY (after already having sporadic releases the year prior).

The reasons could be pandemic catching up, current global/Japanese economic climate, or a combination of industry specific factors, but it doesn’t seem to me as being exclusive to one HW manufacturer or publisher.
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I'm not blaming them exactly, but with Xbox collapsing and Playstation coming out and saying "we got nothing this year lmao" it's disappointing to learn that Nintendo aren't going to be an exception to the Mid Vibes 2024 Gang
 
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MisterSpo said:
Nintendo would announce the system in March more for investors' sake than for fans' sake. The next fiscal year starts in April and the pressure will increase on Nintendo to show signs of how they're going to proceed. One way of doing that is officially acknowledging they have new hardware to launch in the new fiscal year, but then refusing to comment further. That also allows them to include new hardware in their new forecasts in May 2024.

That being said, if hardware is parked at the very end of the next fiscal year, next week's Partner Showcase makes very little sense. A lack of first party software for a year up to new hardware is exactly the kind of weak transition Nintendo have been desperate to avoid. I think it's possible for them to run up a fairly decent line up for the holidays; Pokemon gives them an easy heavy hitter this holiday and it's feasible the next Mario Party is ready, too, which would be another potentially strong seller. Throw in Metroid Prime 4 and you have a core title for the enthusiasts.

They can't last from April to October just on Paper Mario and Luigi's Mansion 2, though, so a lack of first party news this month would be deeply odd. Perhaps Fire Emblem and even more re-releases are planned.
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It PM TTYD remake and Luigi's Mansion are April - June that's at most 1 month with no game before they could potentially have a smaller direct to confirm 2nd half 2024 Switch 1 games.
 
This would be incredible and give me even more time to save up for even more launch games. Let's do it, Nintendo!
 
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Christo750 said:
yeah there are wires crossed somewhere here. if the twist is FY, then it's basically business as usual. Q1 FY25 is April-June Calender '24.


Fire Emblem definitely not but Prime 4 could be. It likely isn't gunna break 5 million if it has "4" at the end of it, but if it's called Metroid Prime: ______, then sure.
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You know what I'm actually gunna go back on this. Luigi's Mansion 3 sold so much that Nintendo is retroactively calling Dark Moon, Luigi's Mansion 2. I remember being worried about Pikmin 4 being called that, but Pikmin 3 didn't change it's title, and Nintendo renamed Pikmin for it's HD release on Switch to Pikmin 1. Feels like the rule is just different for them. It could be called Prime 4 and who cares?

The bigger question is whether or not it's cross-gen. I don't really believe this report, just feels like there are weird qualifications for it, but if it was meant to be cross-gen, it's likely not going to be THE tentpole release for Switch 2 so I hope it just gets released.
 
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MisterSpo said:
Nintendo would announce the system in March more for investors' sake than for fans' sake. The next fiscal year starts in April and the pressure will increase on Nintendo to show signs of how they're going to proceed. One way of doing that is officially acknowledging they have new hardware to launch in the new fiscal year, but then refusing to comment further. That also allows them to include new hardware in their new forecasts in May 2024.

That being said, if hardware is parked at the very end of the next fiscal year, next week's Partner Showcase makes very little sense. A lack of first party software for a year up to new hardware is exactly the kind of weak transition Nintendo have been desperate to avoid. I think it's possible for them to run up a fairly decent line up for the holidays; Pokemon gives them an easy heavy hitter this holiday and it's feasible the next Mario Party is ready, too, which would be another potentially strong seller. Throw in Metroid Prime 4 and you have a core title for the enthusiasts.

They can't last from April to October just on Paper Mario and Luigi's Mansion 2, though, so a lack of first party news this month would be deeply odd. Perhaps Fire Emblem and even more re-releases are planned.
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He said the Switch 2 will have its blowout in June. You think this timeline makes sense?
 
Starphanluke said:
Nintendo is not doing a “blowout” 9 months before the system launches. Or announcing it a year out. They don’t do that shit anymore.
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What makes you say they don't do that anymore? Last new hardware was Switch and that was announced way in advanced. All of Nintendo history shows they announce new generations well in advance.

I agree it feels like this cycle should be different but we really have nothing to go on other than common sense and not killing Switch.
 
Soralink91 said:
What makes you say they don't do that anymore? Last new hardware was Switch and that was announced way in advanced. All of Nintendo history shows they announce new generations well in advance.

I agree it feels like this cycle should be different but we really have nothing to go on other than common sense and not killing Switch.
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There were reasons for why Nintendo announced Switch/NX that early.

These reasons don't apply here.
 
I am immeasurably disappointed by these rumors and really am hoping them not to be true.

Boy, I chose a bad time to stop ignoring the Switch 2 threads if this is the case. I suppose I should hold off again until the news is more stable.

But if anything would stop this, I don't think it's the hardware that isn't ready, it's the software. It's always been the software.
 
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Derachi said:
Waiting another whole-ass year for this hardware is going to kill some people.

That’s going to be nuts.
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Forget people. What about Nintendos own Switch hardware sales? Don’t you think Nintendo cares about not killing its momentum. This is something we’ve discussed and why 2024 release with announcement now worked very well.
 
Dark Cloud said:
Metroid wouldn’t be the only release. Donkey Kong by EPD is coming too
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Peach Showtime
Luigis mansion 2
TTYD
Fire Emblem 4
Metroid Prime 2/3
Donkey Kong
Pokémon title in November
Zelda ports WW/TP
Probably a couple of other smaller new announcements

Playing devil’s advocate Nintendo would technically be fine this year leading up to next hardware release…
 
Haven't Nintendo managers said repeatedly that for the next hardware they were going to take little time between announcement and launch?

This doesn't fit.
 
Brazil said:
None of my sources operate in Brazil. That's not what the info is about.
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I understand, but nothing about the information makes logical sense when considering the surrounding context. We know there's nothing Nintendo hates more than dragging out a product's announcement to release schedule.

They only needed 2-5 months from announcement to release for the Switch, and that was a new concept that people needed to be educated on in order to sell the value of the system. Their revisions had even shorter turnaround times of 2 months with the Lite and OLED. No hardware manufacturer has revealed a new generation console a year out from its calendar release since the Wii U back in 2011 for good reason (minus the Switch which we already discussed)

Their partner direct even emphasizes the lack of drive to sell the lifespan of the system for another year by itself. The context surrounding this 2025 info is why it personally doesn't add up as reliable information. Have you heard anything about a Fall reveal?
 
BassForever said:
It PM TTYD remake and Luigi's Mansion are April - June that's at most 1 month with no game before they could potentially have a smaller direct to confirm 2nd half 2024 Switch 1 games.
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No proper Direct for all of H1 and we’re leaning entirely on a port for a month? Lean, lean times.
 
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Bonejack said:
There were reasons for why Nintendo announced Switch/NX that early.

These reasons don't apply here.
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They announced all of their systems early. We have no other data to pull from. Just that we feel we are in a new Era. Sony and Xbox also announced their systems early.
 
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Brazil said:
It's possible! The people I'm talking to about the hardware are not the same people who usually talk about event dates, though. This is stuff coming from different people.
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Hmm ok I see. It’s different people for hardware and reveal info. Two separate groups in a way
 
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