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Discussion According to @Brazil podcast 'X do Controle' Nintendo Switch 2 will release in march 2025 - Summary updated [Eurogamer is corroborating]

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So let's get this straight:
They  heard a Direct was coming this week
They heard the Switch 2 is bring revealed in March
They've  heard Switch 2 is 2025


These things aren't adding up, boss.
 
Brazil said:
Thank you for the summary, Guaraná!

Just to clarify one particular point, though: at no point have I ever had, and certainly don't currently have, knowledge of the entire line-up of upcoming Nintendo games, so I don't claim to know for a fact that it's all smaller games from now on until the Switch 2 is out. The games I do know about, though, are all what you'd call smaller titles.
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Thanks for clarifying. Does make more sense to me they will have something at least they consider ‘big’ internally.
Enpsty said:
Then there's zero chance that the software ain't ready. Switch 2 only needs 3D Mario, Prime 4 or even MK9 on launch and at least two of those games must be ready.
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MK9 must be done I imagine or well into development. It’s really all they need. Switch 2 could have a soft launch like 3DS and still do very well and expect much bigger third party support. So I doubt it’s a software issue (plus they specifically invested to prevent this occurring) - which would leave it down to a business decision (if so why announce when you want to sell more Switch 1) or a production decision - but shortages should be sorted now and am not hearing anything about the hardware that sounds unique to produce at mass.
 
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korok said:
A blowout in June for a February or March 2025 release sounds just not very credible, to be honest.
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Yeah that makes no business sense whatsoever. A blowout in June for it not to release in Q1 of calendar year 2025. No one at Nintendo operates like this anymore.
 
There's no way Brazil or their source is confusing Q1 of the 2025 FY for launch and Q1 2025 calendar year. The system is not launching between April and June 2024.
 
reveal in march or april, blow out In june, release in 2025?

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VegiHam said:
That doesn't answer their question. They know what a fiscal year is. They're asking if the system is in Q1 of the new fiscal year (in a few months time) or if it's ALL the way in next year.
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They’re talking about the release being next year.
 
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So Nintendo is announcing their new system a whole year in advance and will launch only small titles throughout the year until next year when the Switch 2 arrives. That makes ZERO business sense, it will kill Switch sales because 1. they don't have the software to carry the system and 2. why buy a switch this year if they already announced a new one? Even if they do heavy price reductions it won't be enough.

If they don't announce anything in March, they still need some big titles for the rest of the year, which I'm not seeing since they should be focused on software for the launch of the Switch 2.

Maybe this is one the famous bEcAuSe NiNtEndO situations
 
Enpsty said:
Then there's zero chance that the software ain't ready. Switch 2 only needs 3D Mario, Prime 4 or even MK9 on launch and at least two of those games must be ready.
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They probably wouldn't release a Mario Kart 9 this soon since 8's DLC just finished and somehow that game is still selling like hotcakes. I'd imagine a 3D Mario would have to be done since it's been 7 years since Odyssey released. Who knows though.

A 2025 release for Switch 2 is disappointing but not surprising. Nintendo could go another year with the Switch as the main console. It's still selling very well. I'll just hope Brazil is wrong and some of our other sources who said 2024 are right until we get an official confirmation from Nintendo.
 
Brazil said:
I've actually heard April from a single source last week, but I'm currently more inclined to believe in NateDrake's info. That's all I got on reveal timing, though, besides the understanding that this will be a light reveal followed by a blowout in June.
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That timing matches more for a 2024 release, not a 2025 one. If the system did get delayed to 2025, then I imagine everything else, including announcements and presentations, also got pushed back. (If any of this is true).
 
I'd have to assume something went wrong for that to be the case, but it's yet another 'wait and see' factor.

Entire console industry is in for a slump if this is true though - analysts and investors were counting on new Nintendo hardware this year to breathe life into things. A calendar year without big software from Sony and no new hardware from Nintendo guarantees contraction, especially if this is something unforeseen and Nintendo don't have the software to cover a potential lean patch. If they've got remaining Wii U ports from high profile franchises (Zelda?), 2024 would be the time.

That being said... colour me skeptical until we hear something official.
 
Brazil said:
I've actually heard April from a single source last week, but I'm currently more inclined to believe in NateDrake's info. That's all I got on reveal timing, though, besides the understanding that this will be a light reveal followed by a blowout in June.
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Thanks again! I think we all assumed whatever the first reveal would be was going to take the form of something lighter in the style of the Switch reveal trailer. Maybe they announce the system and a heads up for the teaser end of March but show the thing in early April?

The release timing shifting implies in my opinion that some strategic title(s) got shuffled around and they had to move things around with the hardware to accommodate for that. Maybe even some strategic 3P titles they had less control over? I also get why they’d still want to try and reveal it earlier. If the system is still planned for Q1 2025 they’d probably want to avoid missing out on the marketing push they’d get from the summer game reveal season. I’d imagine they weighed the cost of an earlier reveal on Switch HW sales and saw it as being worth it regardless.
 
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Guaraná said:
they may just acknowledge the existence of Switch 2 in march and say that they will talk about it in the future.
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That would be extremely underwhelming given people's expectations.

Oh well, I still have a lot of Switch games to play.

Anyway, hit me with them ports, Nintendo! Looks like you will have to, want it or not.
 
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Enpsty said:
There's zero chance Switch 2 won't release in 2024. Zero.
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People said the same thing about how everything clearly pointed to a Switch Pro in 2021 - 2023 and that it was blatantly obvious TotK was going to be a cross-gen launch title
 
Guaraná said:
Small titles: like the ones already dated for this year
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Fire Emblem 4 can be considered a "big" game because it was never released in USA/Europe. But also a small game because it's a remake of an existing title like Paper Mario TTYD ?

And Metroid Prime 4, still promised for Switch 1.... If it's considered a "big" game, would it then become a Switch 2 exclusive ?

Brazil said:
Just to clarify one particular point, though: at no point have I ever had, and certainly don't currently have, knowledge of the entire line-up of upcoming Nintendo games, so I don't claim to know for a fact that it's all smaller games from now on until the Switch 2 is out. The games I do know about, though, are all what you'd call smaller titles.
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Ah, I hope you can clarify ? :)

BassForever said:
Perhaps Nintendo's plan is something like this

February: Contractually obligated direct
March: Reveal/Tease successor for q1 2025
April: Switch 1 general direct to detail software for 2024 including Prime 4, FE4R, etc

As for why no general now? I can only speculate, but perhaps one of the big 2024 tentpole games meant for a general needed a bit more time (Prime 4) so they decided to move it's reveal back a couple of months, but still had to show off partner games launching before that games new reveal.
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I'm hoping for a Direct for Switch 1, sooner than April. But yes, it sounds like a good plan.
 
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Raccoon said:
I noticed he said "fall 2024 to early 2025" in the past couple days, which reminded me of how in the latter half of 2022 "early 2023" became "H1 2023" and eventually "never"

maybe something's up again
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Nate said “fall 2024 to early 2025” in the past couple of days?
 
i can totally see them ending 2024 without needing switch 2. some smaller games, zelda HD remasters, new fire emblem, new pokemon, and metroid prime. it's not like the competition has a lot to offer in 2024. that gives them more time to prepare for a great launch in 2025 with a killer launch window lineup, with them announcing the console in Q4 2024 (calendar year)
 
I think we can toss out all this info.

There's literally no reason for Nintendo to reveal a console in March 2024 only to wait a full year to release it. Man they barely had 5 months to sell the brand new Switch concept when it was unveiled in October 2016. Why would they:

1. Reveal a console a year out and kill any momentum for the Switch
2. Host a partner direct instead of a full direct to continue momentum
3. Require a full year to pitch a new console when they only needed 2 months from January to March to sell the OG Switch? The internet makes marketing almost instantaneous. At that point, the console would be old news by the time it even comes out. No new generation console release has done that since the Wii U back in 2011-2012 and that was disastrous
 
If you announce your next console 9-11 months in advance while you also don't have any meaningful software for your current hardware you commit business suicide.
We know that Nintendo is often quirky, but they're not idiots.
 
Nintendo will kill the switch and all of its momentum through the holidays. If you’re delaying the Switch 2 then you should be delaying its announcement (like you had with Switch) and delaying it’s full presentation until January 2025
 
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Appreciate the thoughts and write-up. 2025 would be rough - I friggin' love my SwOLED, and there's always plenty to play, but this entire saga has been such a bummer since 2021 xD .

Either way, we'll still know more in March it seems. But I agree that announcing in March for a launch in 2025 sounds a little weird.
 
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In more positive news… thanks to this thread I now know the difference between fiscal year and calendar year. I always knew they were different but never bothered to look up why… 😅
 
a nightmare in the making if true. a 2024 with no meaningful releases besides maybe Metroid, a lot of cross gen title for Switch 2 for a 2025 launch. If true, something gone terribly wrong, IMO.

But a march 2024 reveal. even a small teaser, makes little to no sense in this scenario. You don't acknowledge a new hardware in march 2024 for going then 12 months without releasing that hardware and no meaningful software.

We'll see.
 
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It'd make more sense if the Switch 2 release in Brazil was 2025 since they're a lower tier country in the eyes of the market (hence why most manufacturers pulled out of there)
 
this does make the nintendo software pipeline a bit more exciting since the more varied teams/projects will be further along

I'd really like to at least get a tease of animal crossing pretty early in the system's life
 
By 'reveal in March' that could simply be Nintendo acknowledging a new console is in the works no?

TBH, i'll be happy if this year gives us a year of remakes/masters GIVE ME ALL THE CLASSICS!
 
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