Apparently make sure if you want something get it while you’re there cause international/HD added in some nasty superbosses as backtracking gates.
FFX is kind of a straight line the whole way through. At the end though you can return to spots on the line with the airship.
Yeah. I preorder Zero as soon as it was announced and got it in time. If I am not done with some games by then, Ill wait for the physical, if not I dont mind the digital copy,.
Playing through some battles now. This is how the game should've released, holy shit.
I booted it up because I had to see it in person. This is a night and day difference and you are right it’s exactly how it should have been. Even the big special effect heavy spells don’t chug.
Right? Holy Light and Ultranova are breathtaking now.
Yes!! If anyone is still on the fence about diving in then make like Arnold and DO IT NOW!!
I suppose the usual ‘Pokemon doesnt count as a JRPG’ argument fits in there somewhereFrom Kotaku's article on FFXVI:
One of the nice things about previews is they can help show you whether or not you'll be interested in a game before purchasing, and also whether or not you even fit in in your own hobby anymore.
www.rpgsite.net
Part of me wonders if it’s just the end point for various AAA projects, no matter whether it originally started with ‘rpg’ somewhere in its list of influences, genre etc. Like I also said elsewhere, a sort of move where everything meets at ‘fantasy game with amazing looking graphics, responsive action combat, explosions, cut scenes, music, voice acting, rpg elements and skills and levels for little numbers to go up on bars.’ A sort of holy grail, if your goal is to get as many people to buy your game as possible, in making it as visually attractive as possible and with instant feedback for the player. Not saying that template isn’t an awesome recipe for a game. I get why so many big games end up on that track, where series from what we would have considered 5 different genres 20+ years ago like Castlevania, Final Fantasy, Ys, Devil May Cry, Tomb Raider etc all end up sort of coalescing into flashy action rpg.I know I already said it in the other thread but:
This is what Final Fantasy looks like to me now.
Obviously you just need to travel to Japan to watch the Kabuki version instead
I really like that, they’ll say ‘nice work, xyz!’ or ‘watch out xyz!’. It’s an elegant small thing that really adds something.
Hey if I can compare the phenomenon to cars then you can certainly compare it to crabs.Sort of the console game version of carcinisation (this is definitely the most stretched analogy I’m gonna make this week)
Buddy, same
Hah, yeah, I hear you. It’s possible to understand why media changes and also feel a bit left behind, FF is far from the only game series that would once sell a game system to me but now barely registers on my radar despite social media existing. I wish we got another major AAA game that was essentially a sequel to FFXII in terms of mechanics, but at this point I find it hard to do anything but shrug about Final Fantasy after I haven’t bought one for nearly 15 years. I’ve now spent longer not playing the series than I did enjoying them. As you say, like Chained Echoes and Rise of the Third Power are out from the indie scene, and there’s stuff like Eiyuden, Sea of Stars and Sacrifire out later this year.Hey if I can compare the phenomenon to cars then you can certainly compare it to crabs.
At least your analogy can lead into a Bill Ritch reference.
Buddy, same
And as to everything you're saying about how this sort of genre-coalescing makes sense, I get it. Not to run it into the ground but it's something I've had to come to terms with in being a car enthusiast, while the market is now increasingly turning everything into some form of SUV. Like yeah, that particular form seems to be a sort of ideal catch-all that can do the most things for the most people, and when you're running a business and trying to maximize sales and profits per unit built then it doesn't make sense to have a lot of niche stuff taking up factory space that only a few people will buy. But when you get to the point where everything that's available is a watered-down "ideal" form, you lose a lot of personality and a lot of options, you lose a lot of what helps people relate to these things that are, yes, just corporate products on one hand but that on the other hand also have the ability to be special, fun things that can stir the soul and help us identify with and enjoy the things we interact with. Things created by real people who pour their heart and love into what they're making, that can serve as a point of connection for the end user. Hell, the same thing could be said about the modern film industry, even.
But it's a small gripe, really, even with as much air as I blow into it. There are tons of games being made now that I enjoy (too many, in fact), so it's not like I'm deprived of anything. It's just that some of the names and teams I grew up loving are now sorta drifting away and doing things that make me feel a bit left behind. And not just by Square, but by the hobby itself, considering the mainstream culture's movement is why Square is doing this.
But at least we have indies.
kotaku.com
Waves hand.Well... huh. This thing I love apparently causes pain in Japan.
Final Fantasy XVI Producer Doesn't Seem To Love The Term 'JRPG'
Final Fantasy XVI producer Naoki Yoshida said he considered the genre term ‘discriminatory’ when it first gained traction
Jedi mind tricks only work when the person is right in front of you, not through a computer screen.
Yeah I definitely see where they are coming from then and now. 15 years ago was right at the start of the PS3 and the discourse around then was the most ugly it ever was. Thankfully it has been toned down, but you still get dismissals that the games are lesser or can only be so good coming from Japan which sucks. There’s like this second level of standards and expectations that surrounds games like Final Fantasy XVI and just last month Forspoken for what they are allowed to be, what people want them to be, and how good they can be just because they are from Japan. They can never just be RPGs, it’s always judged as an RPG from Japan regardless of how much work was put into them or how global the production was.Well... huh. This thing I love apparently causes pain in Japan.
Final Fantasy XVI Producer Doesn't Seem To Love The Term 'JRPG'
Final Fantasy XVI producer Naoki Yoshida said he considered the genre term ‘discriminatory’ when it first gained traction
It’s been like this since XV…I know I already said it in the other thread but:
This is what Final Fantasy looks like to me now.
We do need a new term. I cant count the number of times I've heard podcast/shows where they are playing a rpg not named FF, and the first thing they say "Its your typical jrpg" like what does that even mean? We can sorta guess but it kinda shows that in some of places not a lot of people play rpgs in general, which I can understand but still.
www.gematsu.com
Hmm… advice… well, it’s only around 25-40 hours long depending on side stuff, and maybe even faster now that they added a sprint button, so not long at all. It’s really a pretty straightforward, simple game for the most part.
I understand but boy howdy must I have been separated from gaming discourse during that generation. I've never heard the term JRPG used in any way but lovingly and sentimentally, and as a compliment towards newer games that "get it right." Maybe I'm lucky. Or maybe I'm in an echo chamber because most of my IRL friends have been JRPG fans since the 90s
Yes! The Trails series is actually on my radar, and has been for a while! I wanted to try Trails in the Sky back when it was relatively new, and I'm still keeping an eye open for some sort of trilogy collection on modern consoles. And the rest, yeah definitely. I've actually got Arise (I think) wishlisted on my Xbone waiting for a big sale.
True but XV got some sympathy from me because I knew its development was troubled as hell and it was initially supposed to be an ARPG spinoff that got repurposed into a mainline title, and at least it still had a party. I actually enjoyed XV despite it not being what I'd want but somehow XVI and now the comments from the devs are making me like XV less in retrospect. I'll probably be a bit more okay with all this once some time has passed but at the moment it's just kinda jarring. Like this is a thing, a series, a genre, I've loved my whole life and it feels like not only the mainstream market but now even the series devs are telling me I'm far out of the loop.It’s been like this since XV…
Yeah the term is more positively / passionately embraced these days more often than not even with the detractions and detractors.I understand but boy howdy must I have been separated from gaming discourse during that generation. I've never heard the term JRPG used in any way but lovingly and sentimentally, and as a compliment towards newer games that "get it right." Maybe I'm lucky. Or maybe I'm in an echo chamber because most of my IRL friends have been JRPG fans since the 90s
Yes! The Trails series is actually on my radar, and has been for a while! I wanted to try Trails in the Sky back when it was relatively new, and I'm still keeping an eye open for some sort of trilogy collection on modern consoles. And the rest, yeah definitely. I've actually got Arise (I think) wishlisted on my Xbone waiting for a big sale.
NISA snagged the Crystar sequel(?), Crymachia, over Spike Chunsoft. No real details yet.
I don’t really recommend the first game. I think it took me 25 hours iirc and only in the last five it became the game it wanted to be. This definitely looks like a step up with the little bit of action shown. Wonder if they got Shaft back for select cutscenes.
Edit Gematsu article:
CRYMACHINA launches July 6 in Japan for PS5, PS4, and Switch; this fall worldwide alongside PC version
CRYMACHINA will launch for PlayStation 5, PlayStation 4, and Switch on July 6 in Japan, followed a worldwide release this fall with an added PC (Steam) version, publishers FuRyu and NIS America ann…
Sounds like a spiritual sequel since this has seemingly nothing to do with the first game.
Oh! Okay wow, good save, thanks.
