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I was thinking about this the other dayI saw someone suggest that Zygarde would be your ride Pokémon in this game, and thought that would be cool. I'm assuming cell collection is going to be this game's replacement for wisps, so gathering them over the course of the campaign to upgrade your Zygarde and unlock new traversal abilities would be fun. Just give it new 25% and 75% forms for swimming and flying (and whatever else they need), and we're golden
GameFreak already having an engine and assets with Legends Arceus could mean that the development can be faster, right? If anything, all they'd need is time to optimize.I hate to say it, but unless we see something really cool in upcoming trailers, I’m not too excited about this as it stands. Maybe it’s just because it’s over a year away, but it feels less exciting than previous entries to me.
I’ve lost all faith and hope in Game Freak and I won’t believe they’ve improved until I’m actively playing a product that I think is leagues ahead of what they’ve been producing. Everyone’s excited that they’re waiting til 2025 for this, and I was too, but I realized that if they started working on this right after PLA, that’s still only potentially a ~3 year dev time. That won’t be enough for a product this ambitious to reach its potential, and Game Freak’s track record makes me even less confident. I firmly think this will launch in H1 2025; if it was intended to be a holiday release for 2025, they wouldn’t have revealed it now. It would have been revealed next year at Pokemon Day 2025.
Plus honestly I’m just not psyched about it all taking place in one city. That might change when we see more footage, but right now, it’s just not very exciting… especially if we can’t go in most doors and most shops end up copy and pasted. An all-city game with no wilderness to explore just doesn’t appeal to me quite as much personally. At least GTA has areas to explore on the outskirts of the city which I think is great. If we’re totally confined to a futuristic city in this one, I don’t know if that sounds very exciting.
Ah well. I’m happy that Legends is coming back but this feels VERY different from Legends Arceus so far, right down to the title no longer featuring the name of a certain Pokémon. I will die on the hill that “Z-A” is a terrible name and it bothers me to no end, but that’s the nitpick to end all nitpicks lmao.
That's assuming the gameplay and visuals are similar to Legends Arceus. I wouldn't bet on that when even the logos seem to be in a completely different style.GameFreak already having an engine and assets with Legends Arceus could mean that the development can be faster, right? If anything, all they'd need is time to optimize.
The logo is the same. It's the subtitle that's in a different style, but that's true for all pokemon gamesThat's assuming the gameplay and visuals are similar to Legends Arceus. I wouldn't bet on that when even the logos seem to be in a completely different style.
Both "Legends" and "Z-A" are different.The logo is the same. It's the subtitle that's in a different style, but that's true for all pokemon games
The only conclusion we can draw is that Zygarde will be pivotal to the storyPokemon is the same, Legends is flattened out. but I wouldn't say you can draw any conclusions about gameplay from the logo design of all things.
and here I thought we had to wait until Pokemon Legends Gun for thatThe "Legends" font in Arceus has a bend because you throw the balls in an arc.
In Z-A it's straight because you use a gun.
It's different! Different colors, which is unusual in itself. Normally the logo is yellow which is standard. In Legends Arceus the "Pokémon" is blue and "Legends" is arched and green. This represents the endless sky and green horizons that you can travel. Arceus is in that particular font because the land you are exploring is ancient Japan. Fits the game, yeah?Pokemon is the same, Legends is flattened out. but I wouldn't say you can draw any conclusions about gameplay from the logo design of all things.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's the first time a mainline game has changed the "Pokémon" logo period in over 20 years. And they did it twice! Pokémon is arguably the biggest brand they is, I don't think you can call it a coincidence.colors representing themes? sure, that's normal, though most of that is just interpretation (like the arching having a thematic meaning). but to go so far to say it's representative of gameplay, there's no basis for that other than making it fit a predetermined conclusion
believe what you want, but I ain't convinced
I'd argue Legends is an exception cause it even uses the international Logo in Japan.While Pokémon titles do have the logo reflect the game's theming -- so this probably is a reference to the city setting in some manner - the English logos for the mainline games have always dropped the little nods to gameplay that the Japanese logo has (in the situations where the JP logo did have gameplay connotations, anyway). Legends Arceus doesn't really have any nods to the gameplay in its logo as far as I can tell in any version, being purely reflective of the themes, so I'm not sure if we can interpret anything in that regard from the Legends Z-A logo. You can still have an explorable open-world city setting, after all.
I also doubt we can get a sense of the game's art style from it, considering that the series has seen art style changes regardless of what the logo looks like. Hell, every game since the series made the jump to the Switch has used a different art style outside New Pokémon Snap and Scarlet/Violet.
If it does end up reflecting the actual gameplay in addition to the game's general thematic elements, then sure. Like, I agree that the logo represents the theming and story elements. Pokémon has been doing that consistently since Gen V, so the muted colors representing the city environment you'll presumably be spending most of your time in, while the Z-A are the Pokémon that will play a pivotal role in the plot? That makes sense.I'd argue Legends is an exception cause it even uses the international Logo in Japan.
And I like @Brock Reiher interpretation of the blue and green representing the Sky and and the planes you are exploring for most of the game.
The greys of Z-As Logo fit very well with urban theme.
So dunno why we should not read anything into the Logos when Leg ds is already breaking conventions with the Logo and they already reflect some aspects of their respective games.
That's understandable! I would say the main gameplay of Arceus is being able to explore and survey the world. I would call it Gamefreak's attempt at tackling Breath of the Wild. So if you are in a confined city that somewhat requires the main gameplay loop to be very different.If it does end up reflecting the actual gameplay in addition to the game's general thematic elements, then sure. Like, I agree that the logo represents the theming and story elements. Pokémon has been doing that consistently since Gen V, so the muted colors representing the city environment you'll presumably be spending most of your time in, while the Z-A are the Pokémon that will play a pivotal role in the plot? That makes sense.
I'm just not sure how you can interpret anything gameplay-wise, much less the game's artistic direction.
Guessing this could be GameFreak's Yakuza?That's understandable! I would say the main gameplay of Arceus is being able to explore and survey the world. I would call it Gamefreak's attempt at tackling Breath of the Wild. So if you are in a confined city that somewhat requires the main gameplay loop to be very different.
I hope so! I could see FF7Remake being an influence too. I wouldn't mind a game where you just befriend Pokémon in a city like Detective Pikachu, though.Guessing this could be GameFreak's Yakuza?
It will never happen but god I hope they reference the Sujimon stuff from LaD if that's the case. Complete the circle Game Freak!Guessing this could be GameFreak's Yakuza?
Shit, now I can't unsee it. <_<What I can say about the logo is that it still doesn't align on the bottom and it makes me crazy.
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Just don't ruin it with a mid year announcement of a "faithful" Black and White remake for holiday 2024, and everything will be fine.The one-two punch of good Scarlet/Violet DLC into Pokemon ZA has the Pokemon community actually feel happy and optimistic for once! It hasn't felt this cheerful since like... Sun and Moon.
hopefully! but it could still be as big of a focus looking at how dense detective Pikachu cities are.Really curious how this will work. Unless they're changing things up and catching won't be as much of a focus
Pokemon Squatter VersionOr the Pokemon are illegal occupators and you gotta evict them so that humans can rent out apartments.