she didn't start anything, its just her opinion. Lets leave it at that
This is why we need Paper Mario and Super Paper Mario remake to break the barrier!
There are more games in this series that don’t play like TTYD then there are games that do
It doesn't matter.There are more games in this series that don’t play like TTYD then there are games that do
this is still "just" a remake.
It's the same game with a new coat of paint. Unless you haven't played the original, I doubt you'll find any new content.
People that have touted themselves as “REAL Paper Mario fans” like less than half of this series. So yeah, it matters.
It’s always curious with remakes on whether the high scores are because of how good of a remake it is or how good the original game is.
Yeah I’m down for wackier set pieces. Regardless on how this game sells, it even existing should be good for the Paper Mario series going forward since it hopefully opens the door for more Mario races to be featured in the series, even the biggest TOK fans (me) would loves to see more creativity in the character designs. Origami King did well enough, but it was pretty clear that Intelligent Systems were trying their hardest to tip-toe along the restrictions set on the series. Hopefully now those restrictions are gone.
When you consider what the series started out as (Being a successor to Mario RPG) To a lot of people it won't matter that there are more games that play differently than the first two. This to them will always be the "real" Paper Mario. It’s just the way it is.
I can't imagine we're still going to get 'the' toad and 'the' goomba style characters going forward from this, even if we don't return entirely to the JRPG style (and to be fair I feel TOK's boss battles at least were well designed). Still of the opinion if Sticker Star/Color Splash kept the first three games' style of world-building/characters while still controversial there wouldn't be as huge a schism as there is. To me classic PM's identity was how it expanded on Mario's world, and to its credit TOK also tries to do that compared to how vanilla SS/CS are.
should be noted that Paper Mario (N64) only has 15 reviewsComparison with the rest of the series:
Still the superior game.
Not until a remake.
Surprise. It's never good enough.
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I don't think there's separate camps at all, or have ever been. People are just classic Paper Mario fans, not exclusively 64 or TTYD fans that's weird.
So this makes it the second-highest rated entry in the franchise. That's huge! Here's to hoping the sales speak volumes.Comparison with the rest of the series:
Second highest in the series with significantly more reviewers than 64 or the original TYYD got. It's very impressive!
The original Japanese release was unambiguous about Vivian being trans and the main conflict with her sisters stemmed from Beldam regularly misgendering her, or essentially depriving her of her identity. In several of the western localizations, they instead changed it to a more basic Cinderella story of her two sisters essentially identifying themselves as beautiful and her as pathetic/full of herself.
TTYD people are probably not gonna stop being TTYD people anyway if the next Paper Mario game decides to get goofy again
If they put a Wave Race Blue Storm remake on Switch 2 I'm singlehandedly going to make Paper Mario discourse look normal in comparison.
Yeah Vivian's identity in the JP script is treated as a tropey joke typical of anime back then. Goombella's JP tattle is "He may look like a girl, but he's actually a boy.", that's the type of vibe they were going for with the character. A authentic translation of the original JP script would not have looked good these days.
There's not really "TTYD-people"....
Keep in mind that this was the era of the "Gaycube" and "Kiddy Nintendo" allegations. Discourse for non-PS2/XBOX games was on the fucking floor.
