Something else I'd like to point out is that with XBL Gold, you get to keep the 360 games offered through Games with Gold, even if you let your subscription expire. Functionally, you get 12 360 games to keep, which already covers the monetary cost of the subscription, not even counting the XB1 games or stuff like Deals with Gold.
I mean it took over 2 years for Xbox to do their final BC drop
The best(TTYD has huge pacing issues), it’s perfectly paced and a lot of fun, full of character.
no paper gimmicks either
I think first and second Paper Mario are great but I also think that only better aspect these first games have compared to the two of the newest is combat. Otherwise the newest are better.
And that's what i mean when saying that that's irrelevant. Emulation is clearly harder than we think it is, even for first parties. Neither Sony nor Microsoft have been able to fully emulate their machines without involving hardware in the proccess, Sega is a constant shitshow with the only exception of he Mega Drive mini.
It absolutely is substantially easier for first parties to emulate their own platforms, but that doesn't make it easy, or in particular easy to do at full speed on limited console hardware. The problem with Nintendo in particular is that they have a uniquely diverse set of hardware to emulate while also seemingly not having an especially large team tasked with doing so.
They're not badly emulated, unless you think Ocarina of Time represents the whole N64 library.
It's not just the one room, though, is it? Kokiri Forest has lost all of its atmosphere.
Oh the intro does take a little bit
Star Fox 64 is the definitive version for example
I should preface this with the obvious caveat that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and my opinion is obviously not the standard experience. Ive played OoT at least once a year since its original release and if no one had pointed out the fog and everything I wouldn't have noticed. The only thing that did stand out to me this playthrough was the water in Dark Link's room. To be honest I didn't care, I'm in the room like 10 minutes tops. Only thing I didn't like was the iron boots not being an item but I wished we had gotten the 3ds version in some form instead. Makes the water temple a slog to play through.
Microsoft is limited by licensing as much as they are from a technical perspective. They could have avoided that, because their consoles can read the original discs, but they chose to implement it in a way that requires every supported game to be licensed.
Let's not act like this is a problem in one room in one game. There are emulation issues across the board, which impact OoT the worst because it makes relatively heavy use of techniques that aren't working properly. If you're not noticing them, that's fine, but a lot of other people are and they really need to be fixed to the extent possible.
It was immediately obvious to me that something looked off about Kokiri Forest, but I couldn't pinpoint exactly what until I saw a comparison.
A modern console that only has "backwards compatibility" through the original media is practically bloody worthless. At that point you might as well just have bought a second hand original console.
A good number --and seemingly growing-- of people would even say it's the best one. It's been a long time since I've played either it or The Thousand Year Door, so I'm not going to say too strongly one way or the other, but I'm not about to disagree here.
Paper puns can be cute.
This is what I come to, though. I don't tend to mention it in NSO threads at all, because, well, it seems weird and somewhat aggressive to come into the thread just to say I don't like the base concept, but ... I'm not a fan of the subscription-based future (and thus, also of GaaS).
Which, yeah, unless I'm holding out for specific games, this makes sense. I'm not even sure I'd use online enough to justify the base subscription, and that's with various games included as part of the service. For the games themselves, I'd really prefer to also be able to just obtain those without having to worry about the subscription.
It's not an either or. Licensing old games for digital distribution is valuable, but to let people use their old discs through "backwards compatibility" while limiting the compatibility to only what can be licensed for digital distribution is kind of a joke. Even with Microsoft's emulator being heavily reliant on pre-processing, in principle, there's no reason why that couldn't happen at install time.
@Pokemaniac already summed up my thoughts on documentation making it easier, but I'd also throw in that the expectations are different here. Nintendo's (and Sony's/Microsoft's, but they're not my focus) official emulators are effectively commercial products. The standard is higher, as evidenced by the reaction to what's honestly a pretty competent N64 emulator in the grand scheme of things. It's easier, but not necessarily easy, and people essentially expect flawless conversions with enhancements to boot.
Even this has weird visual artifacts, particularly in the scripted scenes on Corneria, with an occasionally solid vertical bar spanning a few pixels wide that goes across the entire height of the screen for a frame or two. I've admittedly not played the original N64 release, but I don't think this was in it.
Likely an overscan effect, people forget that’s a thing a lot
I don't think so - it runs right down the middle of the screen. I may try to grab a clip of what I'm talking about.
Nothing credible that I can recall
No.
I think it’s some hiccups to do time constraints. Because NERD as a whole does amazing work you there with M2. The SNES games and their work on 3D All Stars was fantastic.
Downloaded fairly quick.
