you're on this site and still haven't bought one??Well time for a price cut? Pretty please
Yup, just as soon as the next one is out.Well time for a price cut? Pretty please
they should. they can't let their past kill their futureIt's.... Fabulous !
And some believe that Nintendo will abruptly drop Switch once Switch 2 will be announced.
I’m replacing my v1you're on this site and still haven't bought one??
So, let's see....
-Performance clearly superior to a Raspberry Pi 3, probably.
-Built-in storage enough for installing as many as 1-2 games
-Voice comm requiring the use of an app on your cell phone
-Paid subscription online service feature list competitive with Heat.net
-Peripheral pricing so high and bizarrely lopsided with the initial hardware bundle that it makes buying a second Switch for parts a sensible option
...that's pretty dire, but it's still a much more compelling product than the Wii U at first reveal, simply by virtue of being a handheld. Might be somewhat more successful than the Wii U since it's not trying to leverage a poorly thought out archaic tablet as a unique selling point this time, but the cost of ownership is looking astronomically high. It's arguably higher than the major console competition, given the peripheral pricing, anemic built-in storage, low value paid online, etc., so it's abandoning a lot of the appeal that would otherwise come with being a handheld.
Handheld form factor and performance, but with $60 game pricing, paid online, tiny storage, and obscene peripheral costs. Worst of both worlds, arguably, and the mediocre mobile SoC isn't going to do it any favors when people hook it up to their living room setups. I seriously doubt I'll want to stretch out Switch games onto my 75" 4K HDR TV.
Not exactly situated to take the market by storm with all that and a very thin launch lineup. Not something that's easy to root for as a consumer, either, since Nintendo loaded up on anti-consumer business decisions here. It's telling that first shipment pre-orders are still available.
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For the switch to sell only 5mil units in 2024 after selling over 16mil units in 2023 it would need a huge catastrophe that destroys every single production line of the switch, it’s a drop that’s pretty much impossible, switch will probably sell double that number this year putting it at 150mil units at worst for march 2025, after that we’ll see how impactful the next switch will be, reminder that the 3ds sold 10mil units post switch release.I did not expect such high figures. I would like them to release a Peach model in March and announce it at the next Direct. That would be a nice way to close the loop.
It’s impressive, honestly. And so deserved. The Switch is really a special console, with special games, which all seem to be creative achievements for their respective franchises, with a Mario Odyssey that literally explains in song that Nintendo is playing its last chance with the Switch.
It’s such a great story, this success. I don’t think the Switch 2 is going to be that good, because the circumstances are unique. That’s why symbolically, the record would be cool.
I still don’t think Nintendo will catch up with PS2 and DS. Even if they manage to reach something like 145 million units sold by December 31, 2024, selling more than 10 million consoles afterwards just seems too difficult.
The overall figure wouldn’t be 5 million units, because you obviously have to add the sales of Switch 2. I think it would be much more catastrophic for Nintendo to sell, say, 10 million Switch 1 and 5 million Switch 2 than the opposite.For the switch to sell only 5mil units in 2024 after selling over 16mil units in 2023 it would need a huge catastrophe that destroys every single production line of the switch, it’s a drop that’s pretty much impossible, switch will probably sell double that number this year putting it at 150mil units at worst for march 2025, after that we’ll see how impactful the next switch will be, reminder that the 3ds sold 10mil units post switch release.
I get what you’re saying but I don’t expect the next switch to release before September/october 2024, that leaves the switch with 9 months all by themselves, and even with the switch 2 the original switch won’t sell 0 copies in the holidays, especially if there’s a new pokemon game that will probably be crossgen. I still expect switch to be at 150 by march 2025 with the next switch selling 10mil in the same timespan.The overall figure wouldn’t be 5 million units, because you obviously have to add the sales of Switch 2. I think it would be much more catastrophic for Nintendo to sell, say, 10 million Switch 1 and 5 million Switch 2 than the opposite.
I understand your comparison with the 3DS, but for me the situation is different. If there is no shortage of Switch 2 and if there is no drop in the price of the Switch 1 like the 3DS benefited, I think that Switch 1 sales will slow down much faster. But I will be absolutely delighted to be wrong.
Another important factor in my opinion will be the price of the Switch 2, in a period of inflation that is difficult for everyone. But personally I can’t imagine Nintendo opting for a launch price higher than $400.
Nintendo loves being unpredictablerevising up an extra half milli is quite a gangster move, i must say.
I feel like anything around 1 mil and under is par for course for Nintendos conversatismrevising up an extra half milli is quite a gangster move, i must say.
i think it's more so interesting when compared to their original feelings about their 15 million forecast being a stretch goal. now revising their stretch goal up is what is gangster.I feel like anything around 1 mil and under is par for course for Nintendos conversatism
So this was probably not a huge surprise nor will it change their plans. Hardware sales are still down compared to same time last year.
All this on the sole basis of partial figures, over a single month, and only on the North American physical market.Huh? I saw people dooming that Nintendo would fail to meet their forecast so I thought it was a done deal, but they're actually increasing it? lol
Yea, the system has a crazy good library on its own at this point. That, a price drop (even if it's on the OG/Lite models), and the re-introduction of Nintendo Selects would make the current iteration a really good bargain / entry point to the ecosystem. Or hey, it opens up the possibility for people to pick a second one up for cheap.Even if the new system gets announced and released this year. Nintendo probably will still sell a decent amount of Switch systems. Especially if there is a lot of cross-gen titles and Nintendo starts to discount the systems to clear the shelves for the successor.
Going to be interesting to see what the final numbers ends up when the dust settles.
Some people are trying to manifest a swift death for the Switch because they think it'll force Nintendo's hand and make them announce the Switch 2.Huh? I saw people dooming that Nintendo would fail to meet their forecast so I thought it was a done deal, but they're actually increasing it? lol
I can see it selling the 15 million they need to break the record, they still have most of this year to sell Switches which should get them close, and then a price cut and people looking for a cheaper option should get the job done when Switch 2 releases.
So, let's see....
-Performance clearly superior to a Raspberry Pi 3, probably.
-Built-in storage enough for installing as many as 1-2 games
-Voice comm requiring the use of an app on your cell phone
-Paid subscription online service feature list competitive with Heat.net
-Peripheral pricing so high and bizarrely lopsided with the initial hardware bundle that it makes buying a second Switch for parts a sensible option
...that's pretty dire, but it's still a much more compelling product than the Wii U at first reveal, simply by virtue of being a handheld. Might be somewhat more successful than the Wii U since it's not trying to leverage a poorly thought out archaic tablet as a unique selling point this time, but the cost of ownership is looking astronomically high. It's arguably higher than the major console competition, given the peripheral pricing, anemic built-in storage, low value paid online, etc., so it's abandoning a lot of the appeal that would otherwise come with being a handheld.
Handheld form factor and performance, but with $60 game pricing, paid online, tiny storage, and obscene peripheral costs. Worst of both worlds, arguably, and the mediocre mobile SoC isn't going to do it any favors when people hook it up to their living room setups. I seriously doubt I'll want to stretch out Switch games onto my 75" 4K HDR TV.
Not exactly situated to take the market by storm with all that and a very thin launch lineup. Not something that's easy to root for as a consumer, either, since Nintendo loaded up on anti-consumer business decisions here. It's telling that first shipment pre-orders are still available.
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The last number by sony is 155mil because after that they started to combine the yearly sales of the ps2 to the ps3. So everything after that is a bit murky, we know that it’s in the 158-161 mil range but without official numbers we can’t know for sure. I guess the best positive if the Nintendo switch sells 155+mil units is that maybe sony will finally clarify the final tally of the ps2Is it just me or did people artificially increase PS2 sales figures over time?
Like, I remember a couple years back it being 155-156 million, now I'm hearing 158million for some reason.
It's a copy-paste of a post following the January 2017 presentation from another forum. It's a genuine post being satirically reposted, which is why it doesn't read sarcastically.It does not read as sarcastic as you think.
I also don't understand. If they increase PS2 sales by 3/4 million, DS also increase the same. So by their standard, PS2 at 158M so DS at 157MIs it just me or did people artificially increase PS2 sales figures over time?
Like, I remember a couple years back it being 155-156 million, now I'm hearing 158million for some reason.
They stopped counting at 155 million and then discontinued a few months later. Given how much it had been slowing down in the previous year I'm not a 158 believer, but opinions vary.Is it just me or did people artificially increase PS2 sales figures over time?
Like, I remember a couple years back it being 155-156 million, now I'm hearing 158million for some reason.
One of 3DS's early albatrosses was that it was too expensive. Didn't keep DS moving. NES and GBA are about the only times a significant amount of hardware was pushed after the next thing, but really there's not a lot of recent precedent for "new Nintendo system arriving while old one hasn't already dwindled", so I wouldn't feel too safe betting either way.I just don't think it will, especially if its more expensive than the switch.
Nintendo's forecast for next financial year will be telling.
From 5 years ago:They stopped counting at 155 million and then discontinued a few months later. Given how much it had been slowing down in the previous year I'm not a 158 believer, but opinions vary.