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StarTopic Nintendo Switch 2 Speculation Thread |ST| The Future is just Beyond the Present

What is the big day 1 launch game for successor of the Nintendo Switch System?

  • 3D Mario

    Votes: 226 79.3%
  • 2D Mario

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • New Donkey Kong

    Votes: 5 1.8%
  • Metroid Prime 4: Beyond

    Votes: 25 8.8%
  • Pokemon Legends: Z-A

    Votes: 4 1.4%
  • Star Fox

    Votes: 2 0.7%
  • New IP

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • Mario Kart

    Votes: 16 5.6%
  • Super Smash Bros

    Votes: 2 0.7%
  • Splatoon

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • Animal Crossing

    Votes: 2 0.7%
  • Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • New Zelda

    Votes: 1 0.4%

  • Total voters
    285
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Q: Regarding information security measures, Kadokawa was recently attacked and was unable to broadcast Nintendo Direct on Niconico Live Broadcasting. There was also a story about an insider leaking information on YouTube. I would like to know what kind of investments you are making and what measures you have in place regarding information security.

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The ninja budget has increased substantially.
 
Yeah, we are probably going to be in circles for the whole summer on this.
Possibly the rest of the year. As of now the official word from Nintendo is by the end of the fiscal year they will announce something about the Switch Successor.

I do believe that we will get something Sept/Oct, but after last few years of always expecting new hardware I'm at the point of just waiting till Nintendo announces something.
 
Possibly the rest of the year. As of now the official word from Nintendo is by the end of the fiscal year they will announce something about the Switch Successor.

I do believe that we will get something Sept/Oct, but after last few years of always expecting new hardware I'm at the point of just waiting till Nintendo announces something.
I'm kind of in the same boat as you. I'm expecting that Nintendo will announce something before Jan 1st, but in the back of my mind there is "We've been here before"
 
yeah with Zelda in late September I'm not expecting anything till late October, Mario Party, M&L, and Donkey Kong will sell the same with or without the Switch 2 announcement, a new Zelda is definitely a type of game for its sales to be affected by a new hardware, especially since it's coming with a new special edition switch lite
 
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It will all depend on Switch 2 release timing, if its coming out in march 2025 no chance that stuff won't be happening by september/october this year. But if the switch 2 is coming out september 2025 then we won't hear anything for ages.
 
When it come til cross gen titles, do you think developers will be using the PS4 or the PS5 version as the bases for Switch 2.

For example, ER PS4 version is more stable than the PS5 version, when using BC.
 
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Absolutely they are. There's no way we have no new innovation after 8 years. Innovation is Nintendo's DNA.

So what is it then that doesn't impede on the duality of the Switch?

Like is magnetic Joy-Cons considered a gimmick?

I really don't believe it needs any kind of gimmicks or bells and whistles...a sensible, familiar design that everyone knows now and loves combined with killer software is all you need.
 
I doubted that Nintendo would say anything, just because this is so bad a venue for doing so. And "we will reveal the hardware this fiscal, and this is our software plan for the holiday" is about as good as you'd expect to get anyway, and they've already given investors (and us) that.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised by almost any window for the launch announcement. There is no perfect timing - if they want to make money off the Switch, they need to keep releasing games. And if they keep releasing games, there will never be a marketing free window for the new hardware to step into. The "best" window will entirely depend on stuff in Nintendo's pocket they haven't revealed.

I think folks expecting a September/October reveal might be getting ahead of themselves. Nintendo did a two stage reveal last time, showing the concept of their new hardware in order to get that into players minds, and then deep dive on the hardware and the library in January. They needed to show us the hardware but also convince us the bad old days of software droughts were over.

They don't need to do that anymore. Nintendo's reputation is totally different, and whatever New Stuff is in the next Switch, it's still a Switch. Instead of an October reveal and a January blowout, they could just do a January presentation, and leave the holiday season free from Switch 2 marketing. Not saying they will do that, but that it's not unreasonable, even for a March release.
 
I doubted that Nintendo would say anything, just because this is so bad a venue for doing so. And "we will reveal the hardware this fiscal, and this is our software plan for the holiday" is about as good as you'd expect to get anyway, and they've already given investors (and us) that.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised by almost any window for the launch announcement. There is no perfect timing - if they want to make money off the Switch, they need to keep releasing games. And if they keep releasing games, there will never be a marketing free window for the new hardware to step into. The "best" window will entirely depend on stuff in Nintendo's pocket they haven't revealed.

I think folks expecting a September/October reveal might be getting ahead of themselves. Nintendo did a two stage reveal last time, showing the concept of their new hardware in order to get that into players minds, and then deep dive on the hardware and the library in January. They needed to show us the hardware but also convince us the bad old days of software droughts were over.

They don't need to do that anymore. Nintendo's reputation is totally different, and whatever New Stuff is in the next Switch, it's still a Switch. Instead of an October reveal and a January blowout, they could just do a January presentation, and leave the holiday season free from Switch 2 marketing. Not saying they will do that, but that it's not unreasonable, even for a March release.
The problem is that when it came to Switch the big launch game Breath of the wild was already known, so they didn't need to ''reveal'' it at all. I have a hard time seeing Nintendo making the biggest 3D Mario game ever as a Switch 2 launch title and announcing and showing the game for the first time like 2 months before release in january 2025.

And for the hardware itself, a 2 month from announcement to release window seems insane, even if its an iterative system. Playstation and Xbox consoles are iterative consoles and they still have much bigger announcement to release window than that. Nintendo can absolutely avoid a september/october reveal but that will only happen if the Switch 2 comes out later than march 2025.
 
My thing is it would just be weird to go quiet and make 3rd party devs go quiet for the TGAs. It's unnecessarily secretive if they are releasing it in March lmao.
 
The problem is that when it came to Switch the big launch game Breath of the wild was already known, so they didn't need to ''reveal'' it at all. I have a hard time seeing Nintendo making the biggest 3D Mario game ever as a Switch 2 launch title and announcing and showing the game for the first time like 2 months before release in january 2025.

And for the hardware itself, a 2 month from announcement to release window seems insane, even if its an iterative system. Playstation and Xbox consoles are iterative consoles and they still have much bigger announcement to release window than that. Nintendo can absolutely avoid a september/october reveal but that will only happen if the Switch 2 comes out later than march 2025.
3 months is enough to market a big game, we no longer need 6 months or 2+year to market a console/game, as long you can market very crystal clear, theres no need for extended marketing
 
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I doubted that Nintendo would say anything, just because this is so bad a venue for doing so. And "we will reveal the hardware this fiscal, and this is our software plan for the holiday" is about as good as you'd expect to get anyway, and they've already given investors (and us) that.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised by almost any window for the launch announcement. There is no perfect timing - if they want to make money off the Switch, they need to keep releasing games. And if they keep releasing games, there will never be a marketing free window for the new hardware to step into. The "best" window will entirely depend on stuff in Nintendo's pocket they haven't revealed.

I think folks expecting a September/October reveal might be getting ahead of themselves. Nintendo did a two stage reveal last time, showing the concept of their new hardware in order to get that into players minds, and then deep dive on the hardware and the library in January. They needed to show us the hardware but also convince us the bad old days of software droughts were over.

They don't need to do that anymore. Nintendo's reputation is totally different, and whatever New Stuff is in the next Switch, it's still a Switch. Instead of an October reveal and a January blowout, they could just do a January presentation, and leave the holiday season free from Switch 2 marketing. Not saying they will do that, but that it's not unreasonable, even for a March release.
Exactly what I'm thinking. No 2024 full reveal, January presentation with reveal, March release. They don't need to hype up the system few months prior similar to Switch. Switch is still is the most popular system and the successor can do a great year one by just riding on that popularity. I mean, this system is gonna have backwards compatibility and still tons of games are coming out for Switch. Nintendo needs to worry about nothing here.

And I think this time third parties will do better job promoting the system compared to their failures for both Wii U's and 3DS's first years. They'll take it seriously and market their games. I especially predict Capcom to be flagbearer in this quest.
My thing is it would just be weird to go quiet and make 3rd party devs go quiet for the TGAs. It's unnecessarily secretive if they are releasing it in March lmao.
Eh. They'll continue to market their games as usual and add Switch successor as one of the platforms in Jan 2025. I expect the reveal to be very impactful, so there might not be need for extra platform specific marketing.
 
Eh. They'll continue to market their games as usual and add Switch successor as one of the platforms in Jan 2025. I expect the reveal to be very impactful, so there might not be need for extra platform specific marketing.
not every 3rd party will get meaningful time in a Nintendo focused presentation. Just adding a logo a month later on a website ain't gonna hit like it would in a presentation.

I'm sorry but in terms of 3rd party marketing the secrecy would be unnecessarily harmful.
 
Exactly what I'm thinking. No 2024 full reveal, January presentation with reveal, March release. They don't need to hype up the system few months prior similar to Switch. Switch is still is the most popular system and the successor can do a great year one by just riding on that popularity. I mean, this system is gonna have backwards compatibility and still tons of games are coming out for Switch. Nintendo needs to worry about nothing here.

And I think this time third parties will do better job promoting the system compared to their failures for both Wii U's and 3DS's first years. They'll take it seriously and market their games. I especially predict Capcom to be flagbearer in this quest.

Eh. They'll continue to market their games as usual and add Switch successor as one of the platforms in Jan 2025. I expect the reveal to be very impactful, so there might not be need for extra platform specific marketing.
A console being launched 2 months after reveal has never happened before, iterative Playstation and Xbox consoles are revealed far longer than 2 months before release.

I think people are too hung up about Nintendo obsessing about holiday sales. They are important but you don't avoid revealing your next hardware til right before release to protect sales, that does not make any sort of business or strategic sense.

The truth is that if Nintendo does not reveal the Switch 2 in september or october then its because the Switch 2 is releasing later than march 2025, not to protect holiday sales. If the Switch 2 is coming out in say september 2025 then its likely that we will hear nothing about the Switch 2 for the rest of 2024.
 
They could also not reveal anything and just shadow drop it on release day.

But we know they won't do that, we also know Nintendo will give it the attention it needs as a few months is not enough time for retailers and for partners to advertise their launch games. A launch to reveal cycle similar to how games are revealed in a direct is more reasonable and that's around 5 to 6 months marketing before release date

There's no reason they won't follow the same Switch pattern with this device if it's a March or April 2025 launch. Some of you really like imagining a scenario where they don't announce anything else this year.

That will only happen if the actuall release date is further out than March.
 
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Exactly what I'm thinking.
To be clear, I’m just open to it as a possibility.

We don’t know how Nintendo will treat cross gen, so we don’t know how many more Switch 1 games are coming. We don’t know how Nintendo is going to handle upgrades, if at all. We do know that Nintendo is gonna wanna market the hell out of their final 3 big titles for the year.

We could get a normal September direct laying out Switch 1 games, and then the reveal in January saying “of course all those previously announced games are coming to the Switch 2 but also we’re launching with a special edition 4k Tears of the Kingdom, along with a new Master Mode”

They could also replace the September Direct with a special announcement that lays out one or two exclusive, reveals the hardware but also says “more games are coming to the Nintendo Switch, so please stay tuned for that presentation.” Then give us a February Direct full of cross gen games that are the bulk of the launch library, but are still on Switch so they need separate treatment.

Or a load of other possibilities. I’m just not locked into this fall reveal strategy when I don’t know what the software strategy is.
 
Yeah GameCube was the first system to come to mind. GBA too. But everything else has some gimmick. It’s been Nintendo’s DNA. I love that too so I’m looking forward to what new gimmick they come up with. Even if the game they make for it is shit, it’s still cool to see.
Wasn't the GameCube's gimmick the handle for easy transportation and playing it with friends that way?
 
They could also not reveal anything and just shadow drop it on release day.

But we know they won't do that, we also know Nintendo will give it the attention it needs as a few months is not enough time for retailers and for partners to advertise their launch games
We also know they won’t do this due to precedent. Sega attempted this when they shadowdropped the Sega Saturn during its U.S announcement at E3, which failed miserably for them. Why? Because consumers didn’t even realize the console existed. It is very important to give console announcements time enough time to breathe so it can be spread to everyone and all audiences become aware of it before it’s release.
 
There's no reason they won't follow the same Switch pattern with this device if it's a March or April 2025 launch. Some of you really like imagining a scenario where they don't announce anything else this year.
There is one reason though: 3DS and Wii U being pretty much dead in 2016. Switch is facing another amazing fall season with great titles from both first and third party fronts. Nintendo's final chance to push Switch hardware numbers, with a possibility of hitting the magical 150m number (their sales forecast indicated this 13.5 million before March 2025 puts the system on 152 million sold). They're getting ready for the finale with Zelda edition Lite and I expect them to do even more (Pokémon Z-A Lite? Transparent editions? Hardware price cut?). A full reveal of the next gen console will sure to cut this dream short.
 
There is one reason though: 3DS and Wii U being pretty much dead in 2016. Switch is facing another amazing fall season with great titles from both first and third party fronts. Nintendo's final chance to push Switch hardware numbers, with a possibility of hitting the magical 150m number (their sales forecast indicated this 13.5 million before March 2025 puts the system on 152 million sold). They're getting ready for the finale with Zelda edition Lite and I expect them to do even more (Pokémon Z-A Lite? Transparent editions? Hardware price cut?). A full reveal of the next gen console will sure to cut this dream short.
I think letting Pokémon ZA have a Switch 2 edition would do bonkers numbers.

I’m genuinely curious how gamefreak and Nintendo will handle ZA, since it has huge potential being a big Switch and Switch 2 title.
 
I think letting Pokémon ZA have a Switch 2 edition would do bonkers numbers.
The successor will have veery limited quantities on launch window as it is a tradition with any Nintendo console launch so it'll do bonkers whether a Pokémon version exists or not.

But Z-A having a Pokémon version next year will help Nintendo to achieve that 13.5 million number. Because it'll be pretty hard to hit that number with successor is around.
 
There is one reason though: 3DS and Wii U being pretty much dead in 2016. Switch is facing another amazing fall season with great titles from both first and third party fronts.
A bit nitpicky, but 3DS was perfectly fine in 2016. It had a brand-new mainline Pokémon game coming directly off the insane popularity of Pokémon GO. I think it sold more that holiday season than it did in 2015.
 
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There is one reason though: 3DS and Wii U being pretty much dead in 2016. Switch is facing another amazing fall season with great titles from both first and third party fronts. Nintendo's final chance to push Switch hardware numbers, with a possibility of hitting the magical 150m number (their sales forecast indicated this 13.5 million before March 2025 puts the system on 152 million sold). They're getting ready for the finale with Zelda edition Lite and I expect them to do even more (Pokémon Z-A Lite? Transparent editions? Hardware price cut?). A full reveal of the next gen console will sure to cut this dream short.
Nintendo’s dream will be fine. Unless the Switch 2 is coming May or later it has to be announced this year.
 
There is one reason though: 3DS and Wii U being pretty much dead in 2016. Switch is facing another amazing fall season with great titles from both first and third party fronts. Nintendo's final chance to push Switch hardware numbers, with a possibility of hitting the magical 150m number (their sales forecast indicated this 13.5 million before March 2025 puts the system on 152 million sold). They're getting ready for the finale with Zelda edition Lite and I expect them to do even more (Pokémon Z-A Lite? Transparent editions? Hardware price cut?). A full reveal of the next gen console will sure to cut this dream short.
3DS definately not dead in 2016, Wii U was.
I still don't agree with the thinking.

As Oldpuck pointed out, if they continue to release Switch games which they seem intent on doing, there will not be a 'window' for them to announce this thing.

Keep in mind they've already announced this console, enthusiasts already know about it.
The old argument was they can't announce at all or risk losing Xmas sales, now that it's announced the goalpost has shifted to they can't talk about it

I think it's splitting hairs at this point. Nintendo will announce when they are ready, and I don't think it will all be that dependent on holiday sales. Yes, Q3 is a big quarter for them, but the software are very much for existing Switch owners, revealing Switch 2 won't affect those sales and may infact boost it if it is shown to have BC giving people confidence to continue investing in the library.

The price sensitive and other folks who aren't tuned in to happenings will buy a Switch regardless and IMHO it's better to allow them the option to buy now or wait for Switch 2 even if it's purely a theoretical exercise than to make people feel scammed by revealing the Switch 2 literally one month after the holidays.
 
The successor will have veery limited quantities on launch window as it is a tradition with any Nintendo console launch so it'll do bonkers whether a Pokémon version exists or not.

But Z-A having a Pokémon version next year will help Nintendo to achieve that 13.5 million number. Because it'll be pretty hard to hit that number with successor is around.
if Pokemon and Drake comes out close to each other, there's an inherent risk of people buying a Drake system over a switch regardless of a cross-gen pokemon
 
if Pokemon and Drake comes out close to each other, there's an inherent risk of people buying a Drake system over a switch regardless of a cross-gen pokemon
As I said, I expect Nintendo to release a Pokémon edition Switch console to keep the Switch sales high.

Still, 13.5 is a huge forecast. Especially for their 8th year. Only a 2m down from their 2024 forecast (15.5m, they beat that with 15.7m). So far they sold only 2 million, 11.5m left to go. Not an easy task. If they don't have the power of Pokémon helping that, they might not succeed at all. But I think will, I totally expect the successor to be supply constrained at launch, pushing people who want to replace their old console to a cheaper new Pokémon edition one.
 
As I said, I expect Nintendo to release a Pokémon edition Switch console to keep the Switch sales high.

Still, 13.5 is a huge forecast. Especially for their 8th year. Only a 2m down from their 2024 forecast (15.5m, they beat that with 15.7m). So far they sold only 2 million, 11.5m left to go. Not an easy task. If they don't have the power of Pokémon helping that, they might not succeed at all. But I think will, I totally expect the successor to be supply constrained at launch, pushing people who want to replace their old console to a cheaper new Pokémon edition one.
I think they will revise that down if and when they announce Switch 2 launch numbers.

Japan is looking like it will track around 1 million behind Switch last year per back of paper napkin analysis for people in the latest famitsu thread, and they sold 15.7 million Switches globally last year. If Japan is expected to be down 1 million, i can't imagine RTW being only down another 1.5~1.7
 
I think they will revise that down if and when they announce Switch 2 launch numbers.

Japan is looking like it will track around 1 million behind Switch last year per back of paper napkin analysis for people in the latest famitsu thread, and they sold 15.7 million Switches globally last year. If Japan is expected to be down 1 million, i can't imagine RTW being only down another 1.5~1.7
They still can push it though. They haven't got to the point where they do one final massive push to the platform (like GBA's Micro or backlit edition). Usually they do this with extra special editions and it sometimes works. They already have revealed Zelda Switch Lite edition but I expect them to have couple more. These won't be "limited" as the past versions were, driving the numbers.

They can do 13.5 if they play their cards right.
 
I've been thinking about what names Nintendo's new system will carry and I thought about Nintendo Joy initially but that's too much on the Joy-con side as I was subconsciously thinking Joy-Cons more than not. Switching between TV and handheld gaming, and how people experience video games interactivity, was indeed a new and focused way to introduce the Nintendo Switch and what it brings as exactly that.

And what now then?
The hybrid concept of gaming your way with mobility or traditional is sure to stick but it's not new and revolutionary anymore for Switch to be anywhere in the name. Unless the successor team chooses to include Switch in the name since it's a "successor to Nintendo Switch", and more than likely offers the same way to interact with games in player controls + mobility/traditional modes, and using the Switch household name to hitch a ride into notice and success.
Yes in this case I can see Nintendo Switch Super, Super Nintendo Switch, New Nintendo Switch, Nintendo Switch Next, and least creative Nintendo Switch 2.

But it will without doubt be a more powerful console 🤔. And it is of course a new team and this new team's first launch, and so I am skeptical of them choosing to use Switch in the name precisely because this is their baby 🐣Also possibly because there were lessons that had to be learned in Wii U's wake.
So my current standing, sole prediction for the name of Nintendo's new system is Nintendo Next, which would work great in it announcing itself as a successor. And I can see the Directs going great with it. "Let's see what's on next?" Just minus the snapping.

What are your name predictions?
 
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So what is it then that doesn't impede on the duality of the Switch?

Like is magnetic Joy-Cons considered a gimmick?

I really don't believe it needs any kind of gimmicks or bells and whistles...a sensible, familiar design that everyone knows now and loves combined with killer software is all you need.
I don’t consider those gimmicks real innovations. Magnetics are not even a gimmick imo.
But I do hope there will be something significant.
 
We don't know what Shin'en is currently developing, right? I wonder if we'll see them at Switch 2's launch. I hope we do. They tend to impress, and I'd love to see this developer demonstrate the Switch 2 technical leap with a game like Fast RMX did on Switch.
Shin'en is doomed by their own atrocious marketing unfortunately. They had some public attention with Fast Racing Neo/RMX because they were a standout indie dev with great visuals and a good game which helped fill the F-Zero gap, but after then, they let their brand fall into obscurity. They get no exposure ever by any news journalists, they barely post on any of their social media accounts, and their games aren't stellar enough to have an active fanbase to do the heavy lifting of spreading the word. The Touryst had medium exposure when it was announced, was regarded as "pretty good", then.... nothing.

99% of people didn't even know they released a game in 2022 with no fanfare called the Punchuin ... a 2d 8-bit pixel game. A game that completely goes against Shin'en's strength as a brand of ambition and standout visual games.

I love Shin'en and hope they can make a comeback as a brand/developer, but they've been killing their own business in terms of sales, marketing, and general audience awareness + prestige. They should be known as one of THE Nintendo console indie devs to look forward to, but they aren't and I'm concerned for their financial stability at this rate if they have another weak game with no marketing attention. I really enjoyed Fast and Nano Assault. I was thinking if they kept going like they were during the Wii + Wii U era, they'd be a known indie dev but the opposite has occurred. I hope they can make a big splash with Switch 2
 
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Okay I know I'm in the minority here but... I kinda hope it isn't just "Nintendo [xyz] Switch" or "Nintendo Switch [xyz]" and is something a little more original. Maybe I'm just paranoid of a Wii U situation, but even if that's not anything to worry about it would still be boring tbh.
 
Okay I know I'm in the minority here but... I kinda hope it isn't just "Nintendo [xyz] Switch" or "Nintendo Switch [xyz]" and is something a little more original. Maybe I'm just paranoid of a Wii U situation, but even if that's not anything to worry about it would still be boring tbh.
I'm sort of the same. It's a new team too that's working on and launching the successor and so that's why I'm doubting that they will use Switch in the name.
 
Okay I know I'm in the minority here but... I kinda hope it isn't just "Nintendo [xyz] Switch" or "Nintendo Switch [xyz]" and is something a little more original. Maybe I'm just paranoid of a Wii U situation, but even if that's not anything to worry about it would still be boring tbh.
it's 99% confirmed to be called "Switch" something, even Furukawa basically said it would have the switch name back in may
 
I'm sort of the same. It's a new team too that's working on and launching the successor and so that's why I'm doubting that they will use Switch in the name.
They will use Switch in the name. It’s literally carrying on Nintendo Switch Online. They’re not dropping the name of their most successful system of all time. It will be used in the next system just like SNES, Wii U, 3DS, Gameboy Advance
 


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