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News Nintendo officially announces live-action Zelda film, produced by Shigeru Miyamoto and Avi Arad, directed by Wes Ball

Saw the title and felt my heart plummet. I want to believe, but I'm operating on zero faith right now. Convince me.

I also just didn't want live-action anything (animation is not a lesser medium!), but we don't always get what we want.
animation is not a lesser medium, nor is live action a lesser medium.

i know that critics have for to often ignored animation. but that doesn't mean we can simply say something like live action will be bad because its live action.

thats the same as saying something being animated will be bad because it is animated.
 
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Live action? No.

Avi Arad? NO.

That director? NO!

Writer(s) of Rise of Skywalker? GOD NO!

I never wished for internet backlash to happen or to actual change things, but i'm hoping this time.
Holy shit, it's like a best-of of how not to do it.

I woke up to this news...

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The Mario movie will be hailed as a masterpiece compared to this.

I reckon Illumination delivered exactly the movie Nintendo wanted with Mario. From a branding and profit standpoint. Whether you liked the movie or not, that was two companies working together to completely nail the design brief and they got their rewards at the box office.

Will the same happen here? I find it impossible to imagine...
the mario movie a mastepriece? a joke

maybe if you were talking in terms of money brought in but while i doubt it hits 1bil

even if its bad ip carries it to 600mil on its first rodeo.

ip is what carried a movie like mario after all.
 
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animation is not a lesser medium, nor is live action a lesser medium.

i know that critics have for to often ignored animation. but that doesn't mean we can simply say something like live action will be bad because its live action.

thats the same as saying something being animated will be bad because it is animated.
Never said live-action is a lesser medium, I just personally feel that certain aspects of the Zelda series won't translate well to live-action, but it's clear they're doing live-action for the 'prestige', which is expected, but still disappointing to me.

I'd be happy to be proven wrong if the movie turns out good! But right now, I'm not feeling this choice.
 
Never said live-action is a lesser medium, I just personally feel that certain aspects of the Zelda series won't translate well to live-action, but it's clear they're doing live-action for the 'prestige', which is expected, but still disappointing to me.

I'd be happy to be proven wrong if the movie turns out good! But right now, I'm not feeling this choice.
you didn't however

its quite clear to see though that many hear think that animation would be better for zelda

when both forms fit quite well.

ultimately if they aim for something like lord of the rings then they made the right choice imo, that would be a bit too expensive to animate fluidly.
a lot of early korra but on a much bigger scale.

but if they opt for something simpler then maybe it doenst.

i''ll reserve my judgment for when we have more than a tweet though.
 
yeah reading through more of what Miyamoto has said him arad have been discussing this for about a decade and despite already having a director and writer there basically starting at zero and won't go into pre-production until they handed something there are satisfied with

TLDR this could take 3-6 years to come out depending on how things go
 
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I have a hard time picturing good looking Bokoblins or ChuChus in a live-action movie (even if CGI obviously).
In Lord of the Rings they made the Orcs and Uruk-Hai rather gruesome looking (especially for a PG-13 movie) and most about the movies is about a darker mood/atmosphere with some minor horror elements.

Zelda is usually much brighter in tone (with very few exceptions).
It has this magical elf vibe going on, with goofy monsters and weird characters.
That could look very cheap and stupid in a live-action movie.
That was also part of the reason why the hobbit movies did not quite come together for me.

I am not optimistic but I would like to be pleasantly surprised.
 
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Live action? No.

Avi Arad? NO.

That director? NO!

Writer(s) of Rise of Skywalker? GOD NO!
Time for a therapy session

the director's next movie is this

you may also want to actually check out the first Maze Runner, where I don't believe I've seen critics about how it's actually directed.
the thing about the writer ( Derek Connely) is that practically all of his credits are the last in a list of co-writers, so it'd be impossible to tell which good parts or bad parts of a movie were him, especially since these are all popcorn movies which are famous for having executive meddling making scripts worse.
And Arad... eh... how do I do this
he has more to his portfolio as a producer than all the negative picks people attach him to:
-Into/Across the Spider-Verse
-The first two Raimi Spidey movies
-some of the early X-Men movies
of course he never gets the credit in discussions online for his contributions to those (Raimi Spidey 3 left some permanent scars but come on, that's just unfair)
 
Worried about Avi Arad is ok I guess.
But worried about Wes Ball? Why?
All 3 Maze Runner movies were perfectly fine directed, the problem was their scripts. He's the new director Planet Of The Apes which its trailer looks good.
Plus remember when Marvel gave Ironman, the pillar of their upcoming universe to the director of Elf and Zathura? Or how they gave the sequel to Captain America, their more mature character to the directors of You, Me and Dupree?
 
Time for a therapy session

the director's next movie is this

you may also want to actually check out the first Maze Runner, where I don't believe I've seen critics about how it's actually directed.
the thing about the writer ( Derek Connely) is that practically all of his credits are the last in a list of co-writers, so it'd be impossible to tell which good parts or bad parts of a movie were him, especially since these are all popcorn movies which are famous for having executive meddling making scripts worse.
And Arad... eh... how do I do this
he has more to his portfolio as a producer than all the negative picks people attach him to:
-Into/Across the Spider-Verse
-The first two Raimi Spidey movies
-some of the early X-Men movies
of course he never gets the credit in discussions online for his contributions to those (Raimi Spidey 3 left some permanent scars but come on, that's just unfair)


Well, since it's my subjective opinion, here's my reasonings:

  • Don't care for Maze Runner
  • Didn't care for the first three New Planet of the Apes movies and won't care for the new one
  • I actively dislike the first X-Men movies (outside of establishing good actors for some of the roles)
  • I actively dislike the Spider-Verse movies, because i actively dislike how Spider-Man turned into his own "sub-species" of mutants with how many times characters with the same powers have been created.
  • While i thought that the first Jurassic World was decent, the sequels were so god damn bad
  • I really, really, really don't like Rise of Skywalker (outside of Ian McDiarmid going ham as Palpatine again, which was fun to see)

So, from my point of view, there's absolutely not a single thing that's positive in this announcement.
 
Also people who thought that they would go with animation are crazy.
Apart from the two Spider-verse movies there's no other successful animated movies that aiming an older audience. What about Studio Ghibli? Well Nintendo wouldn't go with traditional anime for their big blockbuster come on now.
An animated Zelda movie that wasn't aimed at kids would be a financial funeral.
 
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I really, really, really don't like Rise of Skywalker (outside of Ian McDiarmid going ham as Palpatine again, which was fun to see)
Nobody does. But that writer was involved in an earlier draft with a different director. He gets a story credit, but as I said before, you literally can't tell the actual input here. Same for the other movies he contributed to.

Must admit you've got me surprised with Spider-Verse though
 
Well, since it's my subjective opinion, here's my reasonings:

  • Don't care for Maze Runner
  • Didn't care for the first three New Planet of the Apes movies and won't care for the new one
  • I actively dislike the first X-Men movies (outside of establishing good actors for some of the roles)
  • I actively dislike the Spider-Verse movies, because i actively dislike how Spider-Man turned into his own "sub-species" of mutants with how many times characters with the same powers have been created.
  • While i thought that the first Jurassic World was decent, the sequels were so god damn bad
  • I really, really, really don't like Rise of Skywalker (outside of Ian McDiarmid going ham as Palpatine again, which was fun to see)

So, from my point of view, there's absolutely not a single thing that's positive in this announcement.
Connolly didn't write ROTS. He got credited because he wrote an early draft, but it was never used.
 
Given how the Zelda film is partnered with an unrelated studio from Universal (unlike Mario), does that mean the idea of a Smash crossover movie that is so commonly wanted is out of the picture? I am personally not a fan of films being created just to be in the service of being a crossover one, like as if they cannot stand on their own as films and their value is reliant in participating in crossovers.

Thank you for reading.
 
Nobody does. But that writer was involved in an earlier draft with a different director. He gets a story credit, but as I said before, you literally can't tell the actual input here. Same for the other movies he contributed to.

Must admit you've got me surprised with Spider-Verse though
Connolly didn't write ROTS. He got credited because he wrote an early draft, but it was never used.

As i'm a SW fan, maybe something one could guess, i've read those leaked early drafts / summaries. Honestly, these were just as bad.

And about Spider-Verse, yeah. I know i'm the minority and that's okay, if people enjoy it, that's great.
But i like Spider-Man. Peter Parker. And Miles as "Spider-Man 2" is great, too. But everything else? They can leave me alone with that.
Make new interesting super-heroes of various genders, ethnicities, religions and so on, instead of trying to come up with yet another galaxy brain reason for yet another spider-person.
 
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Did Avi Arad shit in everybody's cereal or something? You might not like his work but dude knows what he does plus Nintendo is very good at creative control. No way they gonna let him fuck up their IP, come on now.
 
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Live action? No.

Avi Arad? NO.

That director? NO!

Writer(s) of Rise of Skywalker? GOD NO!

I never wished for internet backlash to happen or to actual change things, but i'm hoping this time.
Holy shit, it's like a best-of of how not to do it.

I woke up to this news...

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have you heard about Jack Black playing a Goron, yet?
 
they definitely were, but I was getting more at the trend in the west of female characters not being so passive these days as Zelda has usually been attributed to. I can't speak on Japan, but the west has been very vocal about playable Zelda as part of this push, so it's probably something a western team is very cognizant of
I think they'll portray Zelda either as her BOTW self, or something like Peach
We might have one of our first cast members.

6 Months Ago, WWE Wrestler Cody Rhodes was rumored to be in negotiations for a role in the film.

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It's unknown what potential role this might've been. But it is interesting we might've had some tidbits of info fly under the radar.

https://411mania.com/wrestling/cody-rhodes-acting-roles/
This was rumored for an animated movie, I believe

He wants to create a trend where families go to see Nintendo movies every year.
That's gonna be a feat!

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Anywho, here's my personal cast:

 
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Getting flashbacks to the "Chris Pratt will ruin the Mario Movie" discourse. Hundreds of pages of doom..... and then he ended up doing a great job.
 
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I have a hard time picturing good looking Bokoblins or ChuChus in a live-action movie (even if CGI obviously).
In Lord of the Rings they made the Orcs and Uruk-Hai rather gruesome looking (especially for a PG-13 movie) and most about the movies is about a darker mood/atmosphere with some minor horror elements.

Zelda is usually much brighter in tone (with very few exceptions).
It has this magical elf vibe going on, with goofy monsters and weird characters.
That could look very cheap and stupid in a live-action movie.
That was also part of the reason why the hobbit movies did not quite come together for me.

I am not optimistic but I would like to be pleasantly surprised.
I mean... see aliens in marvel movies. they are somewhere between bokoblins and tolkin. i think that can work fine, we just need good creature designers.
If you don't like those, thats fair. But not something that i think will be a problem for mass audiences.

Given how the Zelda film is partnered with an unrelated studio from Universal (unlike Mario), does that mean the idea of a Smash crossover movie that is so commonly wanted is out of the picture? I am personally not a fan of films being created just to be in the service of being a crossover one, like as if they cannot stand on their own as films and their value is reliant in participating in crossovers.

Thank you for reading.
The problem there is that the studios bought the movierights to be the sole owner.
Nintendos not selling the rights to its ips to those studios. They are a) paying for most of the production themselves, and b) keeping all the rights, or most of them. there is a chance that some aspects of some designs and the specific assets are say still part of illumination, but that would only mean that the mario characters in a smash movie would look slightly different.

think of it this way: disney giving EA the sole rights to make Starwars games vs nintendo giving the mario ip to Ubisoft for Mario vs Rabbids but keeping full control of the mario IP.
(not the best example, since the Star wars rights get negotiated after a while, unlike the ip rights that say marvel gave away, which where unlimited as long as new releases get produced)


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Honestly, im worried not because of the director, or the script writer (often they never had the chance to work on a project thats really near and dear to their heart, and when they get the chance they produce way better scripts/direction), especially since nintendo will have final say and control.

Whats worrying me: nintendo trying to make zelda movie to mass market and do to much comic relief/western movie influences. It clearly started influences by western fantasy, but since say OoT there was at least as much of an anime and japan influence, culminating in BotW/TotK being more ghibli then LotR.

Also: the format. The zelda structure is essentially visiting different places with new fun characters,
having dungeon exploration, and collecting mcguffins. You can do a boring story where link moves between 4 places to find the 4 special stones and find the master sword while collecting a party with a zora, a goron and korok and another one (whoever you want), but.. that would be rather boring (say 20 minute segments of "now were in zoras domain, oh, new party member, go to dungeon, do 1 puzzle, fight boss, find secret stone, done and gone to next segment. Its FINE for the games, but boring from a narrative perspective.

What would work better? A short series (12 ~1h episodes, have 1 intro episode, 6 dungeon episodes, 3 sidequest / world building episodes, and 2 ganons castle and final battle episodes)
In a series more formulaic dungeon episodes would be less of a problem compared to a movie, 1 h would be fine to have a typical "get to a new place, meet new characters, have a 20 minutes just dungeon segment, where it has time to breath, feeling of traversing it, finding stuff, etc, ...
heck, vary it, have 1 episode have a short dungeon (10 minutes), another be a huge maze and taking 40 minutes,...)

If we do want movies... 3 movies, child link -> master sword with a cliff hanger, adult link with cliffhanger twist (zelda -> shiek), and a final installment with "preparations", world building, and a big final showdown.

A zelda story without the "adventuring", "exploring", or "dungeon" parts is... only zelda in the most superficial sense.

Alternatively:
have a "child link" storyline, but end it after the 3 mcguffins, with a post credit hint that the true danger is only now awakening (like there was this mage that tried to resurect ganon, and link stops him, but the seal is weakend and we see it start to crumble in the post credits), so that we have a fulfilling movie arc, but a clear open end so that if the film is recieved well they can just do a follow up (then 2 parts) as a "ok, you liked that, theres more of that). if would go against the "after the "midpoint" the story kicks into gear" structure of zelda games, but could work, and have an older link (without time skip) with more experience and zelda try to figure out whats going on in the second movie, when ganin is awakened but weakened in the background, pulling the strings, and end the movie with them confronting ganon which gets to full power at the end. it would be the empire strikes back moment, maybe have zelda kidnapped, or even better, split from link and the third movie having an a and b plotline, link trying to find zelda, and zelda researching/collecting something in an "other world", and when they find eachother confronting ganon.

i know, its more or less the structure set in stone by the first star wars trilogy. but it works well in this case.

Or, the one i would like the most: throw away the mcguffin hunt, have link explore the world to find characters that would help him, and have knowledge, and on his way he helps them so they go with him. have a lot focus on the journey, banter, finding cool things on their way,... and 2 dungeon setpieces. Thats more or less the fellowship structure.

both of those would liberally diverge from established game naratives.
It is important that the movies have enough time, i would say 150 minutes.
90 is way to short, and under 2h is rushing it. (obviously depending on the script, but for a satisfying adventuring storyline next to introducing a handful of colorful characters, races, mythology of the world, thats a lot. Iron man is easy: hes a start billionaire, he builds cool suit. thats all the lore and world building we effectively need for the first one.)
 
Illumination was a waaaaaay better choice than the names we heard here, which all screams B movies and not in a good way. Something à la uwe boll's doom or Paul anderson's monster hunter or resident evil.

I think this is a very similar case as Mario/Illumination to be honest. Avi Arad has a veeery extensive track record of successfully (in terms of box office) bringing nerdy properties to the silver screen. Wes Ball has a decent track record with YA fantasy, all the maze runner films at least scored a low 6 on imdb. Derek Connolly doesn't have the greatest CV but they probably liked him on Detective Pikachu. Only Sony Pictures is a bit of a strange choice here, given they have already worked together with Universal and Legendary before, and Sony Pictures has a bumpy record. But it may have been a condition by Arad, or Miyamoto likes that he can talk Japanese with the production company, or it could have been as simple as them looking at Uncharted and going "that, we want that but for Zelda".

And I think Uncharted level is probably what they're aiming for, with the producer and the director and the writer. Which is way, way better than Uwe Boll and Paul Anderson, but very similar to Illumination's work. Something conservative that doesn't rock the boat while still being highly marketable.
 
I think this is a very similar case as Mario/Illumination to be honest. Avi Arad has a veeery extensive track record of successfully (in terms of box office) bringing nerdy properties to the silver screen. Wes Ball has a decent track record with YA fantasy, all the maze runner films at least scored a low 6 on imdb. Derek Connolly doesn't have the greatest CV but they probably liked him on Detective Pikachu. Only Sony Pictures is a bit of a strange choice here, given they have already worked together with Universal and Legendary before, and Sony Pictures has a bumpy record. But it may have been a condition by Arad, or Miyamoto likes that he can talk Japanese with the production company, or it could have been as simple as them looking at Uncharted and going "that, we want that but for Zelda".

And I think Uncharted level is probably what they're aiming for, with the producer and the director and the writer. Which is way, way better than Uwe Boll and Paul Anderson, but very similar to Illumination's work. Something conservative that doesn't rock the boat while still being highly marketable.
I was gonna argue against that... but looking it up, 400M globally, >6/10 imdb, 6ths grosing video game movie (only mario, warcraft, detective pikachu and RAMPAGE (really? oO)) earned back more...

yeah, probably right. middle of the road adventure movie für mass market hollywood audiences.

But reason why sony instead of universal: diversification of the partners.
They don't want to fall into the trap of depending to much on one studio
if the plan is to keep as much decision making in house.
Universal was a great partner for the parks and the animated movie.
Here they decided that sony is better equiped for the case.
 
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I think this is a very similar case as Mario/Illumination to be honest. Avi Arad has a veeery extensive track record of successfully (in terms of box office) bringing nerdy properties to the silver screen. Wes Ball has a decent track record with YA fantasy, all the maze runner films at least scored a low 6 on imdb. Derek Connolly doesn't have the greatest CV but they probably liked him on Detective Pikachu. Only Sony Pictures is a bit of a strange choice here, given they have already worked together with Universal and Legendary before, and Sony Pictures has a bumpy record. But it may have been a condition by Arad, or Miyamoto likes that he can talk Japanese with the production company, or it could have been as simple as them looking at Uncharted and going "that, we want that but for Zelda".

And I think Uncharted level is probably what they're aiming for, with the producer and the director and the writer. Which is way, way better than Uwe Boll and Paul Anderson, but very similar to Illumination's work. Something conservative that doesn't rock the boat while still being highly marketable.
I hope they aim higher than uncharted. The games actually do a much better job of cinematic story telling than that awful movie did. The movie also looked way cheaper than the games.
 
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I hate live action. Zelda screams of Ghibli to me, why not a film in that style? Ghibli also has some level of mass appeal.
Unfortunatley, Ghibli movies will never make the same kind of box office money that big western action movies or cg animations will. From speaking to my nieces and nephews, they think hand drawn animation is ugly and jarring. Which I know sounds insane, but they grew up with very little exposure to traditionally animated movies. I think that’s not uncommon amongst most young kids today.
 
Nintendo is talking a lot about having their different IPs connect with audiences through a variety of different mediums, so it may be that they think of animated movies and live action movies to be somewhat different mediums and they want their IPs to have both live action and animated movies to increase the scope of interaction with consumers. And for a variety of reasons they thought that its easier to make a fantasy Zelda live action movie while Mario due to having a live action bomb previously made more sense as an animated movie.
 
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I presume this movie will be 2:20 long. That should be enough to convey a plot and characters. If anything, they could go by the BOTW structure with each race having a Sage, Link goes to look for the Master Sword and then fight Ganondorf
 
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Nintendo are making movies to diversify their output and increase the exposure of their franchises, which in turn will help their game sales (look at how well Mario games have sold post movie). So it makes sense they've gone 'safe' as opposed to all out with a movie that's more creative but has less appeal. You can point to Spider-verse (which would have been my preferential style for a Zelda movie) as an example of a movie that succeeds creatively and financially, but that still had decades of other Spider-man films and TV shows to draw on. This is Zelda's first crack so live action does seem a safer option.

As I said earlier, happy to give the director a fair shot because he clearly has some affinity for the franchise and I would say the issues with his biggest body of work, the Maze Runner trilogy, stems maybe more from the source material than his directing style. The main screenwriter isn't perfect but has done some stuff I would quantify as being decent (I don't think I can blame them for Rise of Skywalker being in that state tbh). Arad is the wild card in my mind. Whether this succeeds of fails comes down to how much he sticks his oar in, and potentially clashes with Miyamoto and Nintendo. If he keeps his nose clean, I can see this film being watchable. Not amazing, but watchable.
 
Good.
I’ll wait and see the trailer before judgement.
Liked the Mario movie, and expecting another good movie from this team.
 
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It was great. It’s the usual negative responses you’ll see on the internet when something is initially announced. Nintendo overlooking this whole thing will make it turn out great.
I think it’s going to be exactly like the Super Mario movie. It will be much less bad than people fear and much worse than people might hope. Nintendo is diversifying with cinema. They want to make good products, but they don’t necessarily have the know-how or the strategic will to do anything other than profitable products. If the Zelda movie manages not to be bad, it will be enough for them and Nintendo has proven to be able to take care of that.
It's probably going to be a). great looking, b). above-average sounding and c). below-average storywise. I just hope these ventures aren't taking too much out of EPD resourcewise.
Isn’t it simply the average level of stories told in Hollywood in 2023 that is completely shitty? I mean, you obviously always have very good movies, but most blockbusters, movies that draw a lot of revenue, don’t even try to tell a story, don’t even try to be a movie. These are spectacular attractions of more than 2 hours. And it works, all the better, but this mass cinema there, unlike a lot of other blockbusters, does not try to tell strictly anything and only sells derivatives permanently.

That’s why Nintendo is here. To sell IP. We are not going to blame them for the mediocrity of the film industry in the United States, it is not their job. Their job is to keep making great games
Given how the Zelda film is partnered with an unrelated studio from Universal (unlike Mario), does that mean the idea of a Smash crossover movie that is so commonly wanted is out of the picture? I am personally not a fan of films being created just to be in the service of being a crossover one, like as if they cannot stand on their own as films and their value is reliant in participating in crossovers.

Thank you for reading.
Without wanting to be unpleasant, given the complexity and multiplicity of rights holders who would be involved in a Smash film, this idea always seemed to me to be nothing more than a fantasy quite wacky although very noisy. I really like this license, but the total disconnection of its community of fans with certain realities is perfectly illustrated here, in my opinion

However, I find the partnership with Sony interesting and unexpected. We must not forget that when they go to see Universal they are a little weak and that the success of Mario and the switch certainly allows them to negotiate a much better revenue sharing here.
 
AM I the only one who cant imagine how the live action can look like every time i try i end imagining a punch of cos players running in a generic grass field fighting a very silly and fake looking CGI Bokoblin
 
I'm holding off on the cynicism and the skepticism this time. I've learned my lesson.

I derided Netflix's One Piece and then .... Hollywood somehow pulled off Live Action One Piece and I became a Netflix subscriber!

100% Zelda can be done justice in live action as well.

Also I'm reminded of how I derided the Mario movie all the way up til release. Upon which it became a billion-dollar movie franchise and the entire family went to watch it and had a good time!

100% Nintendo has demonstrated they care as much as us, and probably way more, that their characters and IP are handled with care and respect.

This movie is a loooong ways off tho, isn't it? At least 4 years? Timing of this announcement is surely all purposeful. 🤔

That would likely dovetail with release window of a new Legend of Zelda mainline title. Mario movie was announced at the start of 2018. Factoring in COVID delays, that allowed 4-5 yrs til opening day alongside a major new game in the series.
 
Phil Spenser: We consider Nintendo as part of the Xbox ecosystem

Sony: You in her DMS, we collabing together on a Zelda movie. We are not the same.
 
I'm holding off on the cynicism and the skepticism this time. I've learned my lesson.

I derided Netflix's One Piece and then .... Hollywood somehow pulled off Live Action One Piece and I became a Netflix subscriber!

100% Zelda can be done justice in live action as well.

Also I'm reminded of how I derided the Mario movie all the way up til release. Upon which it became a billion-dollar movie franchise and the entire family went to watch it and had a good time!

100% Nintendo has demonstrated they care as much as us, and probably way more, that their characters and IP are handled with care and respect.

This movie is a loooong ways off tho, isn't it? At least 4 years? Timing of this announcement is surely all purposeful. 🤔

That would likely dovetail with release window of a new Legend of Zelda mainline title. Mario movie was announced at the start of 2018. Factoring in COVID delays, that allowed 4-5 yrs til opening day alongside a major new game in the series.
One Piece is a huge qualitative success, surprising and therefore exciting, but it adapts rich narrative material. What Nintendo is doing is not transposing narrative richness, it's transposing intellectual property. I don't blame them, but I don't expect much from them artistically. All I hope is that their high standards and artistry will continue to dominate their profession as video game makers. But the moment you listen to the stock market on mobile games and movies, your company's philosophy is potentially threatened on all other subjects.
 
I don't get all the people saying Ghibli should make an animated version instead because I cannot for the life of me see how anyone could convince Miyazaki to work on anything other than his own projects, especially at this point.

And you don't want a Ghibli film without Miyazaki.
 
Well, since it's my subjective opinion, here's my reasonings:
  • Didn't care for the first three New Planet of the Apes movies and won't care for the new one
  • I actively dislike the Spider-Verse movies, because i actively dislike how Spider-Man turned into his own "sub-species" of mutants with how many times characters with the same powers have been created.
some truly wild takes, @Bonejack
 
We might have one of our first cast members.

6 Months Ago, WWE Wrestler Cody Rhodes was rumored to be in negotiations for a role in the film.

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It's unknown what potential role this might've been. But it is interesting we might've had some tidbits of info fly under the radar.

https://411mania.com/wrestling/cody-rhodes-acting-roles/

If this is something substantial, I could see him as a younger Ganondorf.

I think they're going to go with someone very young for Link (or -sigh- Timothy or Tom)
 
I don't get all the people saying Ghibli should make an animated version instead because I cannot for the life of me see how anyone could convince Miyazaki to work on anything other than his own projects, especially at this point.

And you don't want a Ghibli film without Miyazaki.
Isn’t he retired already?
 
Isn’t he retired already?
He was but his new film The Boy and the Heron released in Japan to broken records this past summer and is about to go international next month so I'd say he's retired with very heavy air quotes.
 


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