Right, any definition of "major" that precludes hypothetical sequels to Luigi's Mansion or, say, Ring Fit Adventure is a bit silly. Not to say Andy and Chris are definitively excluding them but it's another reason not to put too much stock in what they're sayingThe problem with these types of predictions is that a team like NdCube could come out with a casual game that sells 15m+ copies and no one would consider that major right now.
Hell would a Luigi's Mansion 4 even be considered major despite 3 doing over 12m copies?
That makes sense i suppose. Sorry if this is controversial, im not trying to rile any feathers. But for my tastes, it seems like they released most of the big first party switch games within the consoles first 3 years. I wonder if they will space them out a little more next time around
There certainly are further remasters they could bring forward (see Dark Souls and especially Pikmin here). Something like Color Splash or Yoshi's Woolly World would make sense as those teams work on other projects. Kid Icarus: Uprising especially makes sense.The middest years of the Switch have brought me my absolute top-tier favorite Switch games:
- Torna (2018)
- Dark Souls: Remastered (2018)
- Trials of Mana (Remake) (2020)
- Paper Mario: The Origami King (2020)
- Pikmin 3 Deluxe (2020)
- Hades (2020)
Nintendo, hurry up and press the "Gamecube Remaster/Remakes" button!
Metroid Prime, F-Zero GX, Paper Mario TTYD HD
How many of these do I have to sacrifice to get a Smash Bros Fighter Pass 3?
Can't wait to spend 2023 bitterly arguing with people who say EPDonkey Kong isn't a significant new Switch title.
puts gloves and goggles on
Another year without a new DK.
Another year without a new DK.
EDIT: lol
Oh come on Pikmin isn't tiny.
Well, they literally are BUT THAT'S BESIDES THE POINT
What a terrible take
If that was true they wouldn't waste at the very least 4 years making Pikmin 4, after already having rebooted it. In terms of development cost, it's gonna be the most AAA Nintendo games get.
It's a very well regarded B-tier franchise for Nintendo, and one of the few games that don't sell at least 5M that they give that kind of big budget and large development time to, the other one being Metroid.
A lot of Nintendo games sell less and are considered bigger. Metroid for example.Pikmins biggest seller is at about 2.3m or so, and that's with whatever growth the switch had for the series.
It's certainly a tiny series in every reasonable description one could use. The only thing that keeps it alive is because Miyamoto essentially considers it his baby and even that's not enough to stop it disappearing for decade+ at a time even as he pushes for it.
ā¦itās finally time for the cool, most of the time by Nintendo and Fans overlooked, IPs which will somehow do surprisingly well on Nintendo Switch.Simple as that.
No:
- mainline Mario
- new Mario Kart
- new Zelda
- new Splatoon
- new Animal Crossing
- Metroid Prime 4
Still on the table:
- Metroid Prime 4
- Pikmin 4
- Mario spinoffs
- PokƩmon spinoffs
- Astral Chain 2, for example
- Splatoon tactics, for example
- Xenoblade Warriors, for example
- literally anything third party
- literally anything else that's not a 10+ million EPD tent pole release
In other words,
It's a franchise where every mainline game sells a solid million. A lot of companies wish their "tiny" series could sell that well.Pikmins biggest seller is at about 2.3m or so, and that's with whatever growth the switch had for the series.
It's certainly a tiny series in every reasonable description one could use. The only thing that keeps it alive is because Miyamoto essentially considers it his baby and even that's not enough to stop it disappearing for decade+ at a time even as he pushes for it.
It's definitely not going to be costing anywhere near any of the big Nintendo games in budget, lol. The much more likely explanation than them rebooting the game is that it was never more than a small team working on it because the series straight doesn't have that much priority and they only finally got around to it now.
If it was actually nearly done when Miyamoto said it was, they'd have pushed it out on the Wii U because they were goddamned desperately trying to get any and everything out and let standards fall through the floor. Gestures wildly at Mario Tennis ultra smash and animal crossing amiibo festival
Even by that definition it's not gonna age well as we'll definitely have PokƩmon in 2024.I could maybe see this being true if the definition of "major" is limited to the massive 10mil+ types of games like 3D Mario, Mario Kart, Zelda, Animal Crossing, Smash Bros, Splatoon, etc. The only one of those I think we're really "due" for anyway at this point is a new 2D or 3D Mario. I would imagine we'll still see some games in that 3-5mil range, though. It would be a very strange type of incompetence to drop support for the system that quickly while it's still moving so much software.
Itās difficult to imagine none of the three EPD 2D/3D Action Game projects surfacing next year after so long; 2D Mario isnāt the type of title I could see them sitting on for new hardware.
My definition of major differs greatly from what is clearly being applied here anyway, so I think no matter what iāll be good.
Pikmin 3 Deluxe was (internally) delayed for fill in the Q4 that 3D World + Bowserās Fury was pushed out of; so I donāt think theyād intentionally repeat the October timing if they can help it.
We know Creatures are currently working on two spin-offs but I have to imagine Detective Pikachu 2 would show up before whatever the other one is.
He changed the wording since to remove the implication of Detective Pikachu 2 releasing soon (now āin developmentā instead of ānearing releaseā), but you canāt unsee what youāve already seen!
Itād be a miracle for Metroid to get to half of that; and itās not launching in 2023 anyway. 5m would be a really impressive milestone for a series that just passed 3m for the first time earlier this year with Dread.
Metroid, Pikmin, Luigi's Mansion, Animal Crossing, and Mario Kart fans: "First time?"Just wild to me there's a strong chance DK might skip the Switch in terms of new releases, which would be a franchise first. I really pray that isn't the case.
It's a franchise where every mainline game sells a solid million. A lot of companies wish their "tiny" series could sell that well.
Hey I didn't know how to word it okayregardless of its veracity I think we can all agree this is the most bummer gaming side thread title in ages
no not you, this rumor is just a cartoonish bummerHey I didn't know how to word it okay
Exactly. They aren't leaving the 100M+ active user base, let alone doing the same thing they did with Wii of sending a new Zelda of all games to die on the machine and wait a year to release hardware.I don't believe this. I expect backward compatibility and a long cross gen period like the other consoles. No way they just hard stop support for the original switch.
/S, right??Hmmm....so maybe we are on the timeline where Totk was made by the minority of Zelda team and that's why it took so long. Since 2017 the majority is working on a brand new Zelda built from the ground up to the next console.
3D Mario, Donkey Kong, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe DLC, and Mario Kart Tour.So what are the Mario Odyssey, Mario kart and arms team doing?
We haven't even seen a trailer for Prime 4 and you're confident it will more than double the best selling Metroid game?If you think Nintendo wants to make this ip only sell over 3mil and below 5mil in comparison to that of dead, I don't know what to tell you... oh wait I do! MP4 can also be the breakout for the franchise as BotW was for Zelda. If there is 1 ga,e that has a chance of breaking out of a sales pattern, its prime 4. You can save this post, MP4 ain't selling less than 7mil
the last one being new Mario Kart game.3D Mario, Donkey Kong, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe DLC, and Mario Kart Tour.
Maybe pre-production. Not actual production.the last one being new Mario Kart game.
No.I mean if we take ābig titleā as just big sellers, does Prime 4 count?
Itās called FAITH!We haven't even seen a trailer for Prime 4 and you're confident it will more than double the best selling Metroid game?
I believe it's already in production. Even if they have not worked on anything than Tour after ARMS (which is still suspicious since huge names are not credited in Tour) and it's bold to assume that Booster Course Pass is taking so many recources and could be done earlier than we assume. I believe new Mario Kart game is further than we may think.Maybe pre-production. Not actual production.
We haven't even seen a trailer for Prime 4 and you're confident it will more than double the best selling Metroid game?
Pikmin isnāt going anywhere, come on now. If context is so important, maybe itās worth bringing up that Pikmin 1-3 were all released on Nintendoās two biggest underperforming consoles of all time.Yeah, and? What would considered great for a small indie company isn't sustainable for a massive first party. Context is obviously incredibly important.
Nintendo has a place for series that sell a solid million, except it's a big old graveyard they occasionally dig the bones out of when they're feeling charitable. Which is why the series keeps going a decade without new entries, and once Miyamoto is no longer there to push for it, I suspect it'll only take longer.
The best chance the series has is if they've found a good outsourcing partner, eighting or whoever it was who did the switch port of 3 perhaps. I still suspect that's the case for 4 while I'm bringing that up
Nah, Switch is still alive and kicking. Mainline DK games have also historically been released near the end of a console generation -- see SNES Country, 64, Jungle Beat, and Returns. Tropical Freeze was the exception to the rule.Just wild to me there's a strong chance DK might skip the Switch in terms of new releases, which would be a franchise first. I really pray that isn't the case.
Both 2D and 3D Mario games are likely in development. As with DK, it's more a matter of "when" than of "if".8 Deluxe DLC is obviously not going to be the only Mario game released next year. So what other options do they have? It's too early for Paper, Party or Golf/Tennis. Luigi's Mansion is probably a 2024 thing. Some people think Bamco is working on a new Sluggers but there's nothing really to indicate that. I'm going to believe there's a Mario platformer of some sort in 2023 until it's confirmed otherwise.
Well technically Animal Crossing hasn't actually skipped a console. It certainly wasn't what anybody wanted but it was something. It also helps AC fans there was a game on 3DS.Metroid, Pikmin, Luigi's Mansion, Animal Crossing, and Mario Kart fans: "First time?"
I don't think they're working mostly on the Booster Course Pass. I think they're working on Tour. The sheer amount of content the game is currently getting is insane. Two or three tracks release a month, and datamines show it's not stopping any time soon. It kinda makes me wonder if they're trying to remake every single track for a future Mario Kart Ultimate.I believe it's already in production. Even if they have not worked on anything than Tour after ARMS (which is still suspicious since huge names are not credited in Tour) and it's bold to assume that Booster Course Pass is taking so many recources and could be done earlier than we assume. I believe new Mario Kart game is further than we may think.
I don't think the two are in the same boat. The idea of Mario Kart 9 on Switch was killed as soon as the Booster Course Pass was revealed. DK for Switch is still very likely to happen.Well technically Animal Crossing hasn't actually skipped a console. It certainly wasn't what anybody wanted but it was something. It also helps AC fans there was a game on 3DS.
Like DK, Mario Kart 9 could still happen, but it's looking rough.
I expect Prime 4 to outsell Dread, but there simply isn't enough data about the game to draw any other conclusion. Especially depending on when it releases in regards to a new Switch system.I never said doubleMore than triple yes. I haven't seen it, nobody has but the just from the little info we have I know they want it to be big. They managed to do it with a 2D entry and it sold 3mil.
I guess that's true. Still not very confident about DK though.I don't think the two are in the same boat. The idea of Mario Kart 9 on Switch was killed as soon as the Booster Course Pass was revealed. DK for Switch is still very likely to happen.
Luigi's Mansion 4 is a single player game with easily noticeable production values (high quality animation) so it'd perhaps just about count.The problem with these types of predictions is that a team like NdCube could come out with a casual game that sells 15m+ copies and no one would consider that major right now.
Hell would a Luigi's Mansion 4 even be considered major despite 3 doing over 12m copies?