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This is insane to me. I don’t think people understand that Mario’s design has stayed generally the same since the GameCube.
We were this close to going “Classic Mario”
Looks like how he did back in Super Mario World!
They usually go up on youtube after week or so, yep
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for real though, they should go back to the red overalls/blue shirt look whenever they make a new Mario vs Donkey Kongnot classic enough, they need to go back farther.
like “jumpman’s” design on the original Donkey Kong arcade flyer.
or do a licensing deal to turn the game into “Super Popeye Wonder” featuring the iconic comic strip character.
Ah then, yeah I actually like the design they went with better.Probably better to wait for GDC to post the presentation in full before trying to make a comparison image, but since people aren't seeing the difference:
I've been hearing this, but I still have trouble seeing it. Are the renders really that fundamentally different from what we're seeing in this image?
Or do we just have a different idea as to what qualifies as "looking nothing like Odyssey or 3D World Mario"?
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Changing the animations is one thing, but apart from the animations I don't see where else the "radical throwback" is happening. If anything the 3D World screenshot that you used just makes "he looks nothing like 3D World Mario" look even more like an exaggeration when you put it next to the SMBW jumping screenshot
…the 3D World jumping animation/model is WAY closer to the NSMBU example than the Wonder example.
All I see is some minor adjustments in the proportions, I still don't see how this is some kind of major sweeping change that makes Mario look nothing like he did in 3D World
Wait, are you telling me that the difference between these "jumping" images really does just boil down to his proportions? From the way people were talking about things I thought there was something else that I missed, if there's nothing else then that goes back to my point about "he looks nothing like 3D World Mario" sounding like an exaggeration
Maybe it is the low quality, but the eyes actually look more lively in that Version. I also like him having seemingly bigger feet and being longer, though it could be that this manly is just a Distortion Effect of the Screen Capture.Probably better to wait for GDC to post the presentation in full before trying to make a comparison image, but since people aren't seeing the difference:
What point are you referring to? Without someone going more in depth into things I'm genuinely having trouble figuring out what it is that everyone else has spotted that I'm missing.
Can someone please explain what about any of these "designs" is different? I am so confused by this thread....
y'all
I can't explain the difference in the concept art, it really seems like a thread made entirely on the fact he has slightly bigger/looser eyes in concept art
The overall proportions, the color/shading style, the shape of the facial features, the lengths of the limbs, and it's even more pronounced in motion when you see all the detailed animations (especially in the face) for Wonder Mario. The eyes and brows are especially much more cartoony and mimic the classic Kotabe art more.
Or graphic artists who are visually opinionated in general
This is the first time I've seen that get brought up as a difference, could you elaborate on what these differences are? Because even now I'm still not seeing it
Probably better to wait for GDC to post the presentation in full before trying to make a comparison image, but since people aren't seeing the difference:
There's a softer, sorta pastel gradient way of shading on the Wonder model, that aligns more closely with the old Kotabe art. The NSMB model is lit/shaded in an almost plasticy way.
Thanks for telling me what everyone else saw that I missed, but I still think people are making these subtle changes seem bigger than they actually are. It's not exactly the "throw everything in the trash and start over" approach that I've seen certain people demand from Nintendo.There's a softer, sorta pastel gradient way of shading on the Wonder model, that aligns more closely with the old Kotabe art. The NSMB model is lit/shaded in an almost plasticy way.
If you compare just the two models on top here, especially the shirt/hat and the face:
you'll see where the shading technique is different. Wonder's style is much softer and has more pronounced edge-lighting, echoing the gradient style of shading that was common on old 80s and 90s boxarts.
Mario’s face looks much more cartoonish and reminiscent of early Kotabe art.
