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StarTopic Metroid |ST| Trust The Process
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SpaceGodzilla
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Phazon and light suits are still the best
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Yeah they are, they rule
altho I do like the gravity suit a lot too, all that purple
altho I do like the gravity suit a lot too, all that purple
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Cleared Echoes on Gamecube hard mode last night with 100% items and scans. This was actually the first time I was able to get 100% scans in this game (I don't look stuff up for my favorite games, I feel it trivializes the experience). The game can be very tense, unwelcoming, confusing, and difficult at times, but there are a TON of little tricks you can take advantage of to make things much easier, and I even learned a couple new ones this time around just by experimenting a bit. The keyhunt at the end is by far the most tedious in all the trilogy, but at least you get the cool Light Suit to look at while you do so. I may be in the minority here, but I actually think the Agon Wastes is a great area. And of course Torvus and Sanctuary are Godlike.
Gonna pop in Corruption in a bit, can't wait!
Gonna pop in Corruption in a bit, can't wait!
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I just started a first time Echoes playthrough on PrimeHack tonight. Wish me luck! I've played the first hour or two before, maybe more (spend a bit of time in the dark world), but that was 8 years ago at this point on the Wii U vc.
Loving it so far.
Loving it so far.
Speaking of Metroid lore, was anyone else taken aback when playing/replaying Metroid Prime recently and reading the data entry on the Glider enemy. Apparently somewhere in the Metroidverse an entire sport exists with people riding these things with Grapple Beams which thus means Grapple Beams are some readily available technology. It’s like the one piece of lore that I can think of in the Prime series that isn’t about the planets you are on or recurring factions like the Galactic Federation, the Chozo, Space Pirates, etc.
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Glider riding
The "sport" of glider riding is a sport that involves exploiting the magnetic properties of a Glider to Grapple Beam onto it as long as possible, similar to bull riding. Samus Aran, who has had an enormous amount of physical training, appears to be able to Grapple Gliders indefinitely, lest she...
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I absolutely love this bit of lore, lol. Hilariously pointless, but also highly amusing. I think whoever added it in must've been having fun.Speaking of Metroid lore, was anyone else taken aback when playing/replaying Metroid Prime recently and reading the data entry on the Glider enemy. Apparently somewhere in the Metroidverse an entire sport exists with people riding these things with Grapple Beams which thus means Grapple Beams are some readily available technology. It’s like the one piece of lore that I can think of in the Prime series that isn’t about the planets you are on or recurring factions like the Galactic Federation, the Chozo, Space Pirates, etc.
Glider riding
The "sport" of glider riding is a sport that involves exploiting the magnetic properties of a Glider to Grapple Beam onto it as long as possible, similar to bull riding. Samus Aran, who has had an enormous amount of physical training, appears to be able to Grapple Gliders indefinitely, lest she...
I particularly enjoy this paragraph, on that page:
We need to see Glider riding in Prime 4. I'm sure of it. These folks too, whoever the heck they are:
Monks of Grondheim
The monks of Grondheim are interested in the red magma crystal formations in Tallon IV's Magmoor Caverns. They may be affiliated with the Space Pirates, as the Pirates planned to process the crystals for the monks after their Phazon operations have ceased. The monks are mentioned in a Pirate...
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I’m down to see and hear more of these monks too lol. We need more of these weird universe expanding tidbits lol.I absolutely love this bit of lore, lol. Hilariously pointless, but also highly amusing. I think whoever added it in must've been having fun.
I particularly enjoy this paragraph, on that page:
We need to see Glider riding in Prime 4. I'm sure of it. These folks too, whoever the heck they are:
Monks of Grondheim
The monks of Grondheim are interested in the red magma crystal formations in Tallon IV's Magmoor Caverns. They may be affiliated with the Space Pirates, as the Pirates planned to process the crystals for the monks after their Phazon operations have ceased. The monks are mentioned in a Pirate...
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Plot twist: these monks were the ones doing the vocals on the Metroid Prime 1-3 OST this entire time!
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That’s the kind of twist I live for. Yes please!
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As I wait for my March 6th copy (grr..) I envision some hybrid control scheme of using the Pro Controller in the left hand and a joy-con in the right as a pointer, like a deformed conjoined nunchuk and a tiny Wii-remote.
This is probably possible but it would have to involve the Switch OS recognizing the Pro Controller as 'half' of a controller... though I do have giant joy-con anyway to try this with. Hmm...
This is probably possible but it would have to involve the Switch OS recognizing the Pro Controller as 'half' of a controller... though I do have giant joy-con anyway to try this with. Hmm...
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How very interesting
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Metroid Prime 2: Echoes promotional cookie
A promotional cookie was included in press kits for Metroid Prime 2: Echoes in 2004. The cookie was perfectly round in shape and colored white, with the game's logo in the middle and a rocky black texture, possibly crystallized sugar or another candy. Its flavor is unknown, as is who made them...
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I'd almost forgotten about the cookie. Thanks for reactivating that memory. When I first discovered its existence on that very Wiki page I could not stop thinking about it. I want to reverse engineer it.
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I just love looking through the various bits of Metroid merch the Wiki has listed. There's some fascinating stuff on there!
Jones Soda
Jones Soda Co. is a beverage company based in South Lake Union, Seattle, Washington that distributes soft drinks, non-carbonated beverages, energy drinks, and candy. Jones Soda is a carbonated soft drink that has many unusual flavors that are not offered by other soft drink makers. From August...
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Metroid Prime 2: Echoes Survival Kit
The Metroid Prime 2: Echoes Survival Kit is a promotional item released for Metroid Prime 2: Echoes. It is black and circular in shape, and features the game's logo, with the words "Survival Kit" in a military-style font. Attached to the case is a tag with the game's logo, copyright information...
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Metroid Challenge
Though Burger King and other fast food chains have offered Nintendo themed toys many times, the Metroid Challenge is the first Metroid-themed toy from a fast food chain. It is a small Morph Ball maze that the player controls with a magnetic Wii Remote. Art used as the backdrop for the maze was...
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It's not the coolest item, but I think this Burger King toy must be the only fast food restaurant toy ever released for Metroid. I finally spotted a sealed one listed on Mercari the other day, so I did as a responsible fan should, and snatched it up. I really appreciate the fact that Metroid is so easy to collect for, thanks to the modest popularity of the series (compared to titans like Mario or Pokémon), and consequently, the fact that merch for it is such a rarity. It's also why so many in the fandom are going slightly berserk trying to get that recent Walmart exclusive Samus figure.
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I live for this kind of stuff. I love learning about bizarre promotions and obscure merch.
I want that new figure very badly but I hate going to Walmart so I'll probably have to check eBay for it.
I want that new figure very badly but I hate going to Walmart so I'll probably have to check eBay for it.
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I'll probably end up doing the same, tbh. I'll have to end up paying more than double what the figure retails for ($10 I think? Right @Red Monster?), but I guess $25 or so isn't bad, if it means I don't have to check Walmarts.
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She made them take part in Nintendo Land obviously
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Walmart is just a special kind of sensory overload for me and so I can't stand it. And the last time I ever found what I wanted at a Walmart was in 2019 and all subsequent visits I've left empty-handed, which doesn't motivate me to go back again anytime soon.
$25 is... acceptable. Anything more than that I don't think I'd go for.
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I noticed that a lot of fanart likes to portray Samus with her helmet off, at least going off Reddit.
I think it's a good halfway house. People care about the human in the suit, normalising her face at the very least would be nice.
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yeah it was ten bucks I think
i would have gone to ebay eventually as well, but i’m in my local walmart at least once a week anyway for baby supplies, heh.
I disagree with this so much, I don't need Samus to become MCU Iron Man with her ripping her helmet off constantly in ridiculous situations just so we can see her face. She's a lot cooler when she's kept discrete and subtle in my mind, and the last time we got this, we got Other M.
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Phendrift specifically outlined a middle ground between faceless hero, and the absurdity of Other M, though. I wouldn't personally go as far as to call Samus a "faceless" hero (I feel as though there's a healthy degree of subtle characterization and restraint in most of her depictions, especially within the Prime games, though I understand it was meant more literally in this context), but the distinction was made, nonetheless. I agree with the general sentiment of it not being the worst thing for Samus's face to potentially be shown a couple times, mid-game (as Corruption did), versus just as an ending reward.
I'm among those first in line to give Other M its due criticism, but I do think we (as in, Metroid fans in general) should aim to avoid presenting it as the go-to example of what to dread, and what simply doesn't work in Metroid, in cases where it isn't entirely fitting to. I've seen folks invoke the disaster of Other M in order to say overt storytelling in Metroid is bad thing, and the same with characters, Samus talking, the series being in a third-person 3D style, and so on. There's a contingent of fans that seem to believe that just because all of those things were most prominently featured in one game, and that the game was reviled, it means those working on the series best not try those things ever again. Thing is, Other M wasn't rough because it had characters, a third-person 3D camera, or Samus having her face prominently shown. It was rough because those happened to be elements that comprised the greater whole, and because of that negative association, folks are now excessively apprehensive about the prospect of those elements ever returning again.
Other M ain't great, but its problems are largely owed to a bungling of the fundamentals: it featured offensively bad writing, and poorly designed gameplay. Those were enough to sink it. Shame it stained everything else by sheer association as well, but my core point is that future Metroid games can show Samus's face a bit more without treading into Other M territory.
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I actually agree with what you said about Iron Man, that'd be too far in my opinion. But that's not what was laid out. They said "shown more in marketing," not "constantly taking her helmet off" in the game. And I agree with them that it's too bad that the longest-running and (one of the) most prominent female presence in gaming only has her actual face shown when she's in a skintight catsuit in exaggerated poses. I'd love to see marketing material with one of the solid, badass poses Varia Suit Samus gets to do, but with her face and ponytail out in the wind. I've seen tons of fanart like that, it's fantastic, it's powerful as hell, and I'd love to see Nintendo do some of that and stop treating her identity as solely an endgame reward.
But definitely not to the degree of Iron Man or Spidey or the other MCU heroes with inexplicably disappearing/reappearing helmets. I'd like for her character to be subtle, like you said, but not just completely shutting out the visibility of the fact that this iconic badass is a woman.
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You know, on the topic of "faceless Samus" I don't remember the original Metroid Prime being able to see through her visor so much. While I do love the profile of the visor, I gotta admit, it's nice just seeing the human through the other end. I don't need her to take the helmet off, but even just seeing her face through the glass is good.
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I want more (post-game) scenes of Samus doing regular stuff but also wearing regular clothes.
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It'd make for a very fun HUB in a future Metroid game if Samus just had a bar she frequented and got her bounties from as well as information.I want more (post-game) scenes of Samus doing regular stuff but also wearing regular clothes.
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I’ve gone from really liking to really disliking Prime Hunters today. Took me 3 hours to kill an eye ball boss as I don’t know how to dodge it’s charge attack which is driving me nuts. Also I am completely lost the majority of the time, I have no idea where to go. I kill the eyeball thing and escape, but I haven’t picked up any new weapons so I have nowhere to go as I have done everything I can in the levels already. For such a scaled down experience I can not believe how difficult it is to make progress.
Edit. I missed the bloody volt driver at the beginning of the game no wonder I’ve been having such a hard time. Still wish the game had the hint system still.
Edit. I missed the bloody volt driver at the beginning of the game no wonder I’ve been having such a hard time. Still wish the game had the hint system still.
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I need Nintendo to put out the lore on this alien bartender. If random Jim Bobs in Star Wars can get whole backstories, this dude should be entitled to the same treatment.I want more (post-game) scenes of Samus doing regular stuff but also wearing regular clothes.
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The last thing we need Nintendo to do with Metroid is emulate Star Wars
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Best Samus.I want more (post-game) scenes of Samus doing regular stuff but also wearing regular clothes.
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COMPLETELY agree with this. The entire fanbase needs an intervention with regards to fearing basic aspects of storytelling and gameplay just because Other M implemented them badly.
And with regards to the Samus’ face discussion, both you and @chocolate_supra nailed what I was going for. Doesn’t need to be a constant thing in the games, just normalized in them and especially in marketing.
Both of you brought up fan art, and that’s a big thing that prompted my post. It’s crazy that we have all that great fan art of Samus’ helmet off, looking imposing, hair blowing in the wind… but nothing official like that from Nintendo.
Hell, just for fun, something that could preserve the “secretive” or “exclusive” nature of seeing Samus’ face, but also making it more normalized - imagine if the reversible cover for prime 4 was the exact same key art just with her helmet off or something.
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Man plaything through Prime 2, one thing that is a pleasant surprise is that the music is pretty consistent with Prime 1. I legit have had the hub theme stuck in my head a few times already. I knew going into it that Torvus Bog was considered one of the legendary tracks of the series, with Sanctuary Fortress and the underwater theme sometimes getting mentions. But so far everything is great, even the Luminoth track goes way harder than it needs to, and I haven't even gotten to Sanctuary Fortress yet, I better not be disappointed.
The only area where i dont remember the music is Agon Wastes, which is an Agon Wastes of potential.
The only area where i dont remember the music is Agon Wastes, which is an Agon Wastes of potential.
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Getting closer to the end of Corruption. I honestly think Skytown is the most beautiful video game level I've ever seen. I spend so much time just panning the camera and listening to the angelic music. Absolutely love the lore about the Elysians, though it's very sad.
Dun dun, duh duh dun, GONG.
Dun dun, duh duh dun, GONG.
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skytown almost got cut from mp3 several times due to it being the main thing preventing 3 from being 60fps all the way in. I dont remember which kiwi talkz interview said this but it was a tough job to get it running at 60.
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Yeah, I remember watching that interview. Retro always seems to figure it out, or die trying haha. It runs flawlessly
. I also never really realized despite beating the game over 10 times how jarring (in a good way) it is going from the wide open spaces of Skytown to the cramped, twisted hallways of the Pirate Homeworld.
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i think it shows how retro was getting tired of the formula and was pushing things forward.Yeah, I remember watching that interview. Retro always seems to figure it out, or die trying haha. It runs flawlessly
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Just finished up Corruption 100% items on Hypermode difficulty. Unfortunately I missed one Space Pirate scan somewhere. I've actually never 100%'d the scans in this game before . There's like a million different Pirates in this game. Oh well, maybe next time. I also learned when watching the credits that Troy Baker did some voice(s) in this game. He was everywhere even back in the day haha.
. There's like a million different Pirates in this game. Oh well, maybe next time. I also learned when watching the credits that Troy Baker did some voice(s) in this game. He was everywhere even back in the day haha.
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I got to Sanctuary Fortress today in Prime 2 and man, what a location. It's funny because whenever I saw it on YouTube videos I always found it odd and very un-Metroid, kind of mixed on its look with the metallic red and black thing going on. Seeing it in person though, it really is a beaut. This is going to sound weird but it reminds me of Mario Galaxy with its abstract look. Little things like the robots that are basically hand floor brushes, or the walking robots with heads that will fly to other bodies if destroyed, are very cool. What a great game!
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the morph ball!!The Metroid Prime Remastered icons on NSO this week are awesome. Swapped over right away
My favorite purple space dragon!! Metal Edition!!
(I’m rolling with Samus with Tallon Overworld as the background for now)
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To me it's actually the most Metroidey of Metroid locations! Metroid has always been this fusion (ha) of organic and mechanical environments. Sanctuary is the prime (ha) example of them leaning into the mechanical. Along with Skytown in Prime 3 (which leans into steampunk), I feel it's the most unique location in all of Metroid. But I get what you mean, there really is nothing else like it in the series (or any game I've played for that matter) so in some sense it might seem out of place. I actually like how Echoes gives you nothing but natural environments up to that point (ruins, desert, swamp) and then they even mention the next location is on some "cliffs," but then you're hit with this crazy cyberpunk technoindustrial fortress.
