they're most likely not building games and engine at the same time and haven't been since Sword and Shield. this iteration of their tools date back to Pokemon Legends, so they're probably not concurrent
DS is huge, but that doesn't mean every specific thing about it was the result of its success and should be continued forever. Dual screens felt like an outgrowth of their particular situation at the time. Let's have a touch screen! OK, but if we do that then if it flips like the GBASP then that's not going to be very stable when people start poking or drawing. OK, so if we put the touch screen on the base, what do we do with the part that flips up? How about a cheaper secondary screen that can be counted on to not be covered by people's hands?
They desperately need to work with Monolith Soft to get their shit together.
Like I said, I don't have detailed knowledge about their engine, I just assumed it's full of legacy/ leftovers from previous platforms/ technical debt. Maybe this assumption is wrong.
The anti-Wii U. It would be so awesome. Games like Nintendo Land could be ported and played by more than the 7 people who bought a Wii U! It'd never happen but I hope they return to the 2 screen set up some day with video streaming.
It's both totally extremely incredibly awesome and desirable, especially for anyone who's actually used a Wii U and understands the benefits, and technologically totally infeasible at the moment. But we can dream!
If a future Nintendo device used the technique from the patent, you could put the upper screen in the dock and use the other screen as a „gamepad“. But since Switch 2 probably won‘t have dualscreens it most likely isn‘t gonna be used.
I'm sorry, but what is infeasible about a Switch 2 device coming equipped with whatever was in the Wii U Gamepad and also a "dock" that has power, a chip, and HDMI out so it serves as both a stream stick and dock at the same time? If the Wii U could do it super cheap in 2012, why can't it happen in 2024?
...That is neither how the Wii U functioned nor an accurate description of its market position.
1. I don't buy it. There are announced games for the Xbox Series that won't come out until 2026. Plus, all of the major 8th-gen systems have lasted a while. Hell, the PS4 is still getting games next year. At least 2028, if not longer.
It MAY come out soon-ish, but... So what, honestly? Very few pieces of software have even caught up to meet Xbox Series X where it is, and as diminishing returns continue to pile up, and the diversity of hardware in use increases, game scalability naturally increases both due to market forces and technical reasons.
With Xbox's hardware strategy how it is, their 2026 console would probably be more like a Series X Pro with a new brand and a couple rare exclusives.
That isn't necessarily true considering Microsoft is pivoting to ARM chips and the FTC leak came out that they're R&Ding an ARM based xbox console. Could be something completely different.
We have got to stop putting Monolith Soft on this pedestal.
They're pivoting to arm in the server space. There's not too much benefit from going to ARM in a console and more to lose
Interesting. I‘ve thought myself that extrapolating frames based on the two previous frames (or better 3, so two real frames and one generated one) the game logic (which runs at 60fps) and also checking the controller at 60hz. Even though it probably won‘t be feasible for every Switch 2 game (CPU heavy games).
That way you can play all wiiu gamepad games, like nintendo nation and zombi u for example.
What do you mean Wii babies are adults now.
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I don't know that any of us here are in a good place to know how the real world requirements for such a thing would compare to FSR or DLSS frame generation. Though if so I'd be interested to hear.
Right. Especially with the new generation coming up it increases the likelihood of a single person/household having access to multiple devices. Have your Mario Maker 3 for Switch 2 docked and interact with a dummy program on Switch 1.
Why do you keep putting May in all caps? What a strange fellaI mean.. define “insider knowledge”. Is it contacts within Nintendo or a professional 3rd party developer?
Is it the research pro’s like (sry if I get names wrong) Oldpuck, Luigiblood, and many others?
I “MAY” have been told (along with many other shareholders) H1 too based on just stock research and other villainy in those waters. But H1 “MAY” not happen and in which case a whole lot of Nintendo shareholders will have been wrong and early. It’s not a surprise that Nintendos stock breaks out of a descending channel the moment gamescom happened. The rich shareholders know something. They always do much to my anger.
I wonder if I worded that as poorly as possible to avoid getting flamed and banned.
Something MAY happen in MAY! Like Golden Week, or something.Why do you keep putting May in all caps? What a strange fella
Unless they announce it in January, a May release sounds way too early. Assuming Nate is right about a March announcement, that'd only leave 2 months from starting MP to release, which does not sound like enough time to build up sufficient stock, and a May reveal seems too late, since they'd want some good news for shareholders such as yourself coming into the new fiscal year in April. To my eyes, this is probably just shareholders letting their confirmation biases do the talking.
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Wii U Architecture | A Practical Analysis
An in-depth analysis that explains how this console works internally
Heck, just the first page shows how much went into making the Gamepad work.
You absolutely could imagine it being done in reverse on a Switch, with Gamepad hardware (plus power management) integrated into the dock (maybe using Wifi 6E) and a preference for sending a 480p stream to the dock to limit bandwidth and performance hit on the mobile clocks.
I just have significant trouble imaging the end result performing anywhere near good enough to justify the extra cost. The BOM on the Gamepad was around $80, so stripping out the controller and display should bring that down a fair amount, even if the end result is $15 extra cost. . . Not enough people cared about the asymmetric gimmick to drive Wii U sales.
Heck, if Nintendo wanted to give it a go again, they would be better to make a few games like Pac-man VS and Nintendoland free on Switch online and just require folks have two Switches. One in the dock and one as the primary controller using the existing local WAN functions built into the system.
