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what is he plotting now
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Kidnap some princess :p

So instead of a hardware revision, Switch might get several colors of Joycons? 😬
 
Hyping up Princess Peach through Twitter instead of an actual Direct, only other big games I can see them talk about in a Direct is the Thousand Year Door remaster and Metroid Prime 4. When will they confirm the existence of a Switch successor for this year's launch?
Im thinking April announcement for September launch
 
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Kidnap some princess :p

So instead of a hardware revision, Switch might get several colors of Joycons? 😬
investor's meeting be like:

investor: how will nintendo make people want to buy nintendo stuff? are they planning a new product?

shuntaro furukawa: we'll unveil 100 new joycon skins for 2024 and 2025

/s
 
was this about the c-sticks drifting?
Not always. Every single pair of Joy-Con (four total) have had signal problems day one.

Every individual Joy-Con has at least been returned or repaired.

Because some have had this multiple times, the failure rate of Joy-Con I have experienced is over 100%.
 
I see a lot of articles claiming the switch two is downgraded?




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I really would be dissapointed if true.
 
Not always. Every single pair of Joy-Con (four total) have had signal problems day one.

Every individual Joy-Con has at least been returned or repaired.

Because some have had this multiple times, the failure rate of Joy-Con I have experienced is over 100%.
damn :cry:

i miss the build quality of the wii u gamepad even if it looked clunky...
 
I see a lot of articles claiming the switch two is downgraded?




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I really would be dissapointed if true.
redgamingtech got an unreliable track record for hardware spec leaks
 
Aren't that just those (prolly) wrongly guesstimated specs from 1 or 2 weeks ago again?

Man, that stuff comes back at you like a boomerang, huh?
 
I see a lot of articles claiming the switch two is downgraded?




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I really would be dissapointed if true.
This false info will be on Reddit soon, lol I’m almost sure.
 
I see a lot of articles claiming the switch two is downgraded?




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I really would be dissapointed if true.
how can Switch sucessor be downgraded,if we not even saw the console is?
 
Aren't that just those (prolly) wrongly guesstimated specs from 1 or 2 weeks ago again?

Man, that stuff comes back at you like a boomerang, huh?
Don‘t worry, it‘s just filler for clickbaity YouTubers waiting for the next famiboards post they can make a video about./s
 
I see a lot of articles claiming the switch two is downgraded?




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I really would be dissapointed if true.
Lmao what the fuck is this shit? "Switch 2 Pro"? I forget how far behind mainstream sources are in reporting on the Switch 2.

edit: this post wasn't meant to sound rude towards you, just this weird fake leak
 
Apparently, a Nintendo Switch 2 Pro could boast of having 12 GB of RAM and 12 SMs thanks to the T239’s features being fully enabled in this particular model. It’s not too wild a thought to consider that Nintendo might launch multiple variants of its next-generation console, but it would be surprising if a base model with just 64 GB of eMMC storage and cut-down processing capabilities was part of the lineup, especially if the starting price was around $400.
Lol
 
Am I the last member of team Q4 2023 ? There was Pablo, but he disappointingly betrayed us at the end of last year.

We lost I didn't betray y'all

I have hope for a H1 release still, I'd say 40% chance for:

Mini Direct in Feb

Reveal in March

Release in May-June




However some interesting comments from Nintendo France CEO emerged recently and made me think Nintendo probably didn't expect the Switch to last this long and are milking it to the max

All of these games run on the Nintendo Switch console, which will soon celebrate its seventh birthday. “We will exceed 8 million sales at the end of January. In 2023 alone, we sold 855,000 units,” continues the director of Nintendo France. This remains less than the year 2022, when the Switch found 987,000 takers. This decline is natural: this hybrid console, released in 2017, is beginning its end of life cycle.

But while rumors are multiplying about the presentation in 2024 of a “Switch 2”, Philippe Lavoué refuses to bury too quickly the star console of the Japanese group, sold 132 million copies worldwide. “A console that sells so much after 7 years is atypical! Demand remains strong, particularly at Christmas. And our strength is multi-equipment.” It is in fact not uncommon to see 2 or even 3 Switches in the same home. “Why should all this stop overnight?”
 
I see a lot of articles claiming the switch two is downgraded?




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I really would be dissapointed if true.
According to the tech YouTuber's
 
It will be interesting to see how Nintendo transitions to next generation this time. This is the first time this leadership will be launching a new generation. It's tough to tell how much a focus Switch 1 will be. I could see anything from full cross gen to very minimal support. We will just have to see.
 
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For an unannounced system the Switch 2 sure does have a lot of bad publicity, jesus. All these stupid "reports" are being treated as fact. I'm in a couple discords for sizeable content creators and I just keep seeing garbage.
inb4 "Is Nintendo Switch 2 DOOMED if it can't run Palworld?!?" or "Switch 2 is too weak for Palworld. DoA?!?!"
 
For an unannounced system the Switch 2 sure does have a lot of bad publicity, jesus. All these stupid "reports" are being treated as fact. I'm in a couple discords for sizeable content creators and I just keep seeing garbage.
Its been said in the past before but negative Nintendo news generates more traffic & engagement than positive. Throw in Nintendo hardware speculation & you get a mess of a cocktail.
 
Its been said in the past before but negative Nintendo news generates more traffic & engagement than positive. Throw in Nintendo hardware speculation & you get a mess of a cocktail.
no doubt lmao. People are really hung up on the notion that the Switch 2 will be like a Ps4 without any acknowledgment of DLSS or the fact that the system is made with more modern components.
 
We lost I didn't betray y'all

I have hope for a H1 release still, I'd say 40% chance for:

Mini Direct in Feb

Reveal in March

Release in May-June




However some interesting comments from Nintendo France CEO emerged recently and made me think Nintendo probably didn't expect the Switch to last this long and are milking it to the max

I was one of the biggest May advocates but even I’m pretty much completely off the 1H 2024 team. Things happened in the world. The focus and respect toward those things is most important.
 
I see a lot of articles claiming the switch two is downgraded?




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I really would be dissapointed if true.
Either the people following this rumor are dumb or, if somehow these specs turn out to be true, Nintendo is really fucking dumb.

Steam Deck LCD at $399 gets you:
  • 16GB of LPDDR5 RAM
  • 256GB Internal Storage
  • 1.7 TFLOPS
  • Steam online system, which is far more functional than NSO.
I cannot emphasize enough how fucking dumb it would be if Nintendo waited until 2024 to release a console without even enough internal storage to run most cross gen games. Would be WiiU all over again.
 
For an unannounced system the Switch 2 sure does have a lot of bad publicity, jesus. All these stupid "reports" are being treated as fact. I'm in a couple discords for sizeable content creators and I just keep seeing garbage.
Probably because the last two times Nintendo sat on their more successful hardware too long it led to the 3DS, which heavily underperformed Nintendo’s expectations, and the WiiU, which was such a disaster that Nintendo fairly quickly shifted all their development studios away from it.
 
Man, Switch 2 isn't even real that we're already talking about Switch 2 Pro being downgraded.

Shoutout to Notebookcheck and Laptopmag leeching each other and making the same exact mistake.

Marvelous.
 
no doubt lmao. People are really hung up on the notion that the Switch 2 will be like a Ps4 without any acknowledgment of DLSS or the fact that the system is made with more modern components.
I mean just take a look at most of Switch 2 discussion in general. BC anyone? Nintendo gonna restart NSO? We can’t rely what they have done on the past even though I’ll talk about the past.
Probably because the last two times Nintendo sat on their more successful hardware too long it led to the 3DS, which heavily underperformed Nintendo’s expectations, and the WiiU, which was such a disaster that Nintendo fairly quickly shifted all their development studios away from it.
The WiiU could’ve come out sooner & still crater. Nothing about that system was gonna do well short of being another type of system entirely.
The issues w/3DS have more to do with price, underwhelming gimmick, & letting non-existent 3rd parties take the stage. Also existing in a fully mobile world where it offered nothing really different. Once Nintendo games came out it did relatively well all things considered.

People place far too much importance on Nintendo sitting on success .
 
For an unannounced system the Switch 2 sure does have a lot of bad publicity, jesus. All these stupid "reports" are being treated as fact. I'm in a couple discords for sizeable content creators and I just keep seeing garbage.
It was similar with the Switch and that continued until it launched and everyone played BOTW. There's a staggering disconnect between message boards and content creators (both of whom pivoted from "these specs = DoA" to "these specs = never play X game" and finally "Steam Deck specs = rip Switch") and the broader games buying public. The first two groups can be relentlessly negative and are often wrong.
 
Either the people following this rumor are dumb or, if somehow these specs turn out to be true, Nintendo is really fucking dumb.

Steam Deck LCD at $399 gets you:
  • 16GB of LPDDR5 RAM
  • 256GB Internal Storage
  • 1.7 TFLOPS
  • Steam online system, which is far more functional than NSO.
I cannot emphasize enough how fucking dumb it would be if Nintendo waited until 2024 to release a console without even enough internal storage to run most cross gen games. Would be WiiU all over again.
Well🤷🏾‍♂️let's wait and see what we get.
 
As I've said before, I personally expect Nintendo to continue releasing gimmicks in the form of separate hardware accessories (e.g. Nintendo Labo, Ring-Con, Nintendo Switch Leg Strap, etc.) for Nintendo's new hardware.
These gimmicks are things Nintendo sell to 1 software alone. Things isolate. But if Nintendo want something to be mainstream on their next console, and support multiples titles, its better they put it inside the box, day one for everyone be capable to use it.

For exemple, Nintendo can use a bigger horizontal resolution on portable screen and transform the dock in a dock/headset for a VR out of the box. That way every Switch 2 user can be a potential buyer in VR games.

Things like that can make a lot more success if they come with the machine than if you need to buy in separate.
 
I see a lot of articles claiming the switch two is downgraded?




csm_Switch-2-specs_90e71d6566.jpg


I really would be dissapointed if true.
It's a little funny that, to reconcile all the different things that are now floating around, news outlets are going "okay, so the shitty specs must be the base model, and the good ones the Pro model."
 
The screen definitely won't be 90 Hz or support VRR.

Burn-in is effectively non-existent on the Switch OLED. A Youtuber finally got burn-in on his Switch OLED after maxing the brightness and leaving a static image on the screen for 150 straight days 24/7. It's not an issue an issue in the practical sense.

The Switch's LCD screen is edge lit. Not directly backlit with mini-LEDs or even normal LEDs - so the brightness difference is negligible - Eurogamer measured the normal LCD Switch at 373 nits and the OLED at 343 nits. But because the Switch OLED has pixel level control and an infinite contrast ratio, it has far more "pop" and vibrancy than the LCD.

No LCD screen in the world, not even a top end Sony mini-LED set with Backlight Master Drive and insanely well engineered local dimming, can match the contrast, blacks, and vibrancy of an OLED display. Whatever cost efficient LCD panel Nintendo selects for the Switch 2 certainly won't come close and will be a big step down from the Switch OLED.
This entire argument kinda hinges on Nintendo going for an LCD as cheap as the launch Switch's. I'm not convinced they would (and even then, I believe similarly priced LCDs have advanced in the last 7 years).

Regarding nothing matching the contrast, blacks, or vibrancy of an OLED, that's objectively true, but also doing a disservice to how far LCDs have come. Modern LCDs can get absurdly bright, and quantum dots have done wonders for vibrancy. Local dimming is also at a point where blacks are closer to OLED than LCDs from 5+ years ago unless you're in a pitch black room; the contrast is excellent. At this stage, if the price of an OLED set is enough to give someone pause, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend a QLED or similar with sufficient local dimming; most people would barely notice a difference. And that's while being significantly brighter, greatly raising performance in a well-lit room (or being able to accurately portray particularly bright HDR scenes, though they're kinda rare).

Of course, this is more true of TV land than mobile displays; OLED was cheap enough to be mainstream in phones years ago, whereas larger OLED panels are still expensive enough for there to be opportunity in the mid-range for TVs. Combine that with power disadvantages in advanced LCD tech, and mobile LCDs with all the bells and whistles just don't really exist as there hasn't been much market for them; AFAIK, the smallest commercial panel with a quantum dot film is 10". Still, they're better than they used to be.

I don't know what to expect from an LCD from Nintendo in 2024, to be honest. But I'm not convinced it'd definitely be very disappointing compared to an OLED. I would like to be able to have a decent screen out in the sun, and an LCD is a better candidate for achieving that without an extravagantly expensive display (not to mention direct sunlight degrades OLEDs under use).

TL;DR this is largely a nothing reply, but I personally wouldn't look at LCD vs. OLED so absolutely.

you have to squint at the OLED model panels to tell they stink, meanwhile LCD stinks at a glance

I know which I'd prefer
I find it's game-dependent. Some scenes in Metroid Dread kinda stink at a glance on my OLED model I got the same day. That said, the game still looks better overall on the OLED than the 2017 LCD lol.
 
It's a little funny that, to reconcile all the different things that are now floating around, news outlets are going "okay, so the shitty specs must be the base model, and the good ones the Pro model."
The first Switch 2 Pro rumor and the cycle continues. I‘m looking forward to 5 years of Pro speculation with nothing coming out of it and another 2 years of 3 speculations.
 
I see a lot of articles claiming the switch two is downgraded?




csm_Switch-2-specs_90e71d6566.jpg


I really would be dissapointed if true.
RedGamingTech can't bother having the information about the CPU correct (here, here, and here).
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And he wants people to believe him? :ROFLMAO:

Yeah. That's not really now SoC production works.
Theoretically, Nintendo and Nvidia could have decided to disable 2 SMs, which results in 10 SMs being usable.

But saying that, there's no reliable indication that's the case with T239 on Nintendo's new hardware.
 
Theoretically, Nintendo and Nvidia could have decided to disable 2 SMs, which results in 10 SMs being usable.

But saying that, there's no reliable indication that's the case with T239 on Nintendo's new hardware.
It seems to be the typical mixing of real data, fake leaks and rumors which result in unrealistic expectations.
 
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