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Aaaaaand FCB's Kimmich got Covid. Well, it's not like everyone told him he's playing with fire.
 
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Rangnick being hired as interim coach for ManU is something I never saw coming in a million years.
 
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At least one out of Italy and Portugal is guaranteed to miss the WC next year. This should be interesting.
 
FIFA got interest in the playoffs at least, boy a playoff between Italy and Portugal would be astonishing.

Also, the prospect of a Wales vs Scotland playoff whets the appetite too.
 
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Poor Ole

fucking lol at Chelsea there, what a miss with the last chance of the match.
 
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I see, so pretty much what was expected.
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Yeah, although it's ridiculous in my personal opinion that Lewandowski is coming third when he should have won it, or at the very least ended above Benzema.

If we're always just going to look at attackers for the prize anyway, then if 38 goals in 30 games isn't enough to land you above 24 goals in 28 games or even 26 goals in 33 games, I don't know what is. Maybe if Madrid/Barcelona/PSG were clubs in less of a dominating position domestically than München but that's hardly the case, even if Barça underperformed this year.
 
Chaotic Neutral said:
Yeah, although it's ridiculous in my personal opinion that Lewandowski is coming third when he should have won it, or at the very least ended above Benzema.

If we're always just going to look at attackers for the prize anyway, then if 38 goals in 30 games isn't enough to land you above 24 goals in 28 games or even 26 goals in 33 games, I don't know what is. Maybe if Madrid/Barcelona/PSG were clubs in less of a dominating position domestically than München but that's hardly the case, even if Barça underperformed this year.
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I agree 100%.

I can't believe they are giving full weight to copa America and then Jorginho is not even in the final three.

In my opinion and (I know is very debatable) Lewandowski deserved it last year too.
 
Francobotw said:
I agree 100%.

I can't believe they are giving full weight to copa America and then Jorginho is not even in the final three.

In my opinion and (I know is very debatable) Lewandowski deserved it last year too.
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Well, seems the leak in Spanish media was partially wrong. I think it’s a more fair result than expected with Lewandowski 2nd and Jorginho up there, like you mentioned, but I still stand by not understanding at all why Messi wins it over Lewandowski this year.
 
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Leonel Messi winning the Ballon d'Or is bullshit to be honest. For what exactly ? Copa America ? serious question.
 
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Leonel Messi winning the Ballon d'Or is bullshit to be honest. For what exactly ? Copa America ? serious question.
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I'm not watching the game, only the score coming in so I can't say what's up but something is clearly one sided about the England women v Latvia women match.

it's just gone 19-0 in the 84 min.

Finished 20-0 but it seems their record is 40-0 against Aruba so this was nothing lol
 
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I don't particularly care about Messi winning his 7th now that he left Barca but it's great to see all the salt. He won over Lewandowski because of winning the Copa, and his play before joining PSG. You may not like it, but international games are valued too (that's why Modric won a few years ago). It's not Messi's fault that he plays in Copa. What is he supposed to do? Make Argentina join Europe? Jorginho doesn't deserve it, not over Messi or Lewandowski. Lewa deserves one, and I think whoever gives out the BDO should give him the 2020 one retroactively.
 
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I don't particularly care about Messi winning his 7th now that he left Barca but it's great to see all the salt. He won over Lewandowski because of winning the Copa, and his play before joining PSG. You may not like it, but international games are valued too (that's why Modric won a few years ago). It's not Messi's fault that he plays in Copa. What is he supposed to do? Make Argentina join Europe? Jorginho doesn't deserve it, not over Messi or Lewandowski. Lewa deserves one, and I think whoever gives out the BDO should give him the 2020 one retroactively.
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I don't think anybody is dismissing the international records. Just that Messi's 9 in 16 international games aren't as impressive as Lewa's 11 in 12 games, especially considering he has a much worse team to play with in arguably more difficult competitions outside of WC years?

E: FWIW I think Messi is the best football player to have ever played the game. That doesn't automatically mean he should win it this year.
 
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I don't think anybody is dismissing the international records. Just that Messi's 9 in 16 international games aren't as impressive as Lewa's 11 in 12 games, especially considering he has a much worse team to play with in arguably more difficult competitions outside of WC years?
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I generally have an issue with giving BDO to strikers seemingly by default, but if they absolutely have to do that for some inexplicable reason, it should have been given to Lewandowski this year.
 
MissingNo. said:
I generally have an issue with giving BDO to strikers seemingly by default, but if they absolutely have to do that for some inexplicable reason, it should have been given to Lewandowski this year.
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Oh, I also absolutely agree with that. Goalkeepers and defenders don't have a shot within the current unwritten rules, unfortunately.
 
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Oh, I also absolutely agree with that. Goalkeepers and defenders don't have a shot within the current unwritten rules, unfortunately.
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I feel like there is a notion of offense players being of higher value, or contributing more to the success of a team than defense players and goalies in the eyes of the audience at large, which is then being mirrored in ballon d'or. At least in my own experience it is rather uncommon for people interested in football to claim that their favourite player is anything else than a forward, winger, or CAM.
 
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I feel like there is a notion of offense players being of higher value, or contributing more to the success of a team than defense players and goalies in the eyes of the audience at large, which is then being mirrored in ballon d'or. At least in my own experience it is rather uncommon for people interested in football to claim that their favourite player is anything else than a forward, winger, or CAM.
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There's nothing as sad as people not seeing the true artistry in a beautiful last-minute tackle or tactical fouling 😭

obviously almost everything is more sad, i just thought i'd overstate the point.
 
dpt120 said:
I don't particularly care about Messi winning his 7th now that he left Barca but it's great to see all the salt. He won over Lewandowski because of winning the Copa, and his play before joining PSG. You may not like it, but international games are valued too (that's why Modric won a few years ago). It's not Messi's fault that he plays in Copa. What is he supposed to do? Make Argentina join Europe? Jorginho doesn't deserve it, not over Messi or Lewandowski. Lewa deserves one, and I think whoever gives out the BDO should give him the 2020 one retroactively.
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He shouldn't have won this one because he wasn't the best player last season. If the BDO really awards the best player in the world, however, then it's an absolute crime that he only has 7.
 
A lot of good matches for tomorrow, should be fun.

West Ham-Chelsea
Barcelona-Real Betis
Real Sociedad-Real Madrid
Roma-Inter
Napoli-Atalanta
Dortmund-Bayern
Lens-PSG
 
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I will be so mad if Italy doesn't qualify for the WC.
But on the other hand ... I don't need to watch that shit show in Qatar then ...
 
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Looks like Spurs have had a COVID outbreak in the squad. Just as they were turning things around too. Won't be too mad if it means we limp out of the Europa Conference mind
 
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Looks like Spurs have had a COVID outbreak in the squad. Just as they were turning things around too. Won't be too mad if it means we limp out of the Europa Conference mind
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cool, more points for us Dutchies. If Vitesse wins of course.... two CL + one CL qualification tickets here we come!
 
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With all due respect to Barca fans... I did not quite understand why everyone was so happy with Xavi.

Yes, I'm biased because as a Dutchie (and moreover, Feyenoord fan) I have seen Ronald Koeman coach several teams, made some questionable choices every now and then (ask PSV fans, or Benfica ones lol), but I really would have liked Koeman to have more time with the current team; he's really good in building a team from the ground up. He did so with Feyenoord, the Dutch squad too when they were in shambles. This is the first Messi-less Barca in ages and you still have a team thats mostly built around Messi. I really hope a new coach will see this as well and we'll get eleven great players that can lean on their talents rather than playing in service for just one player.
 
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I will, hopefully will be a great race.
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I'm of the belief that Hamilton should have gained 2 more world championships than he has so I don't want him to lose this one, but Max is a better person to lose to than Rosberg

That one sucked especially as he instantly quit after they tried their best to gift him it.
 
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What on earth, are F1 trying to torpedo their sport?

That was dumb as hell. well done Max I guess.

2 different possible winners and in the course of the race they managed to make both underserved lol :ROFLMAO:
 
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What on earth, are F1 trying to torpedo their sport?

That was dumb as hell. well done Max I guess.

2 different possible winners and in the course of the race they managed to make both underserved lol :ROFLMAO:
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This sums up the entire season pretty damn well, ngl.
 
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This sums up the entire season pretty damn well, ngl.
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God knows what the people actually invested in this are feeling. Imagine your day job came down to that :poop:

In another dimension Lewis is a 10 time champ but he gets paid too much to walk away. Ironically if they had made Max over take him at the start instead of leaving Lewis in front then the race would have gone differently and that ending wouldn't have happened.
 
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God knows what the people actually invested in this are feeling. Imagine your day job came down to that :poop:

In another dimension Lewis is a 10 time champ but he gets paid too much to walk away. Ironically if they had made Max over take him at the start instead of leaving Lewis in front then the race would have gone differently and that ending wouldn't have happened.
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No matter the outcome, this season was just a shit-show in each regard. Both Merc and Red Bull have behaved incredibly childish and unworthy over the course of it, let alone some of the stuff that happened on track, including the inconsistency of Race Control.

Feels like sport took a hard backseat to drama and show. Not exactly my cup of tea.
 
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No matter the outcome, this season was just a shit-show in each regard. Both Merc and Red Bull have behaved incredibly childish and unworthy over the course of it, let alone some of the stuff that happened on track, including the inconsistency of Race Control.

Feels like sport took a hard backseat to drama and show. Not exactly my cup of tea.
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Yep it's also annoying how they constantly go to their teams, talking to them during the races and stuff, trying to make more characters to market rather than just letting the drivers drive.
 
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Yep it's also annoying how they constantly go to their teams, talking to them during the races and stuff, trying to make more characters to market rather than just letting the drivers drive.
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Yeah. And it is not over yet. Now Merc are submitting not one, but two protests against the outcome of the race. It was kind of obvious that whoever ended up losing would seek some way to settle this off track. Fits the whole absurdity.

Rant over, however. My displeasure with F1 has nothing to do with Football. Maybe someone should start an F1 thread for next season, though. I was contemplating making one back in October, but with the season mostly over I did not think it was worth it at the time.
 
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Getting back to the football means discussing Palace v Everton.

I see Newcastle lost again. Still surviving due to there being 4 bad teams at the moment.
 
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That 3rd Palace goal was a disaster for Everton, they have the ball from a free kick try to take it quickly with a duff kick which only goes to the edge of the box, palace get the ball and curl it into the back of the net.
 
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