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Dark Cloud said:
This kit feller thinks Nintendo won’t do BC physically in a Switch 2 sku? Ugh
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To be fair, he said that Nintendo might launch two models, one of which fully supports physical BC and another digital-only model that only supports digital BC. But he thinks BC is a lock, as does Krysta
 
Truno said:
To be fair, he said that Nintendo might launch two models, one of which fully supports physical BC and another digital-only model that only supports digital BC. But he thinks BC is a lock, as does Krysta
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Is that a basic prediction or based on a (debunked) rumor?👀😏
 
goombaicebro said:
sadly the majority of gaming twitter and gaming youtube will brush that aside and act like serkan toto's switch 2 analysis is gospel no matter what :confused:
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Eh, he may actually be on the mark for once. It'll be interesting to go back to this prediction when everything is said and done.
 
The only way I can see Nintendo doing a digital only SKU at launch is if they really want to make sure they have a console less than $400.

So Switch 1 $249-299
Switch 2 Digital - $349
Switch 2 Everything - $399
 
Meelow said:
The only way I can see Nintendo doing a digital only SKU at launch is if they really want to make sure they have a console less than $400.

So Switch 1 $249-299
Switch 2 Digital - $349
Switch 2 Everything - $399
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Wondering if a $50 price difference is even worth it. I would just spring for a $399 instantly when there's only a $50 difference for less hassle and flexibility.

I think if Nintendo really wanted to make a difference and still offer digital-only SKU, they'd do:

Switch 1 $199 (price drop, dying console)
Switch 2 Digital $299
Switch 2 Everything $399
 
eye0h said:


I doubt they'll be right on much but thought I'd signal boost it for discussion purposes seeing as we are all insane people with little to talk about in terms of new info. They thought their predictions last year were 'A grade' though.

Key Points:

- Launch Before September - Specifically Late June Early July
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Assuming it's announced either in March or late February, Nintendo would first want to do a direct in June to hype up the console's first year lineup. I guess maybe they could follow up with a July or August release similar to how the Switch launched in March after a February Direct, but June seems unlikely. I'm still personally guessing a September release though.

- DS-3DS Level transition - Still the same concept but there will be whimsy! Basically more power, QOL and more Nintendo personality
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Incredibly likely.

  • Backwards Compatability will stay
  • Kit thinks two SKUs - one physical one digital, Krysta disagrees
  • Krysta thinks $399 Kit agrees
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Seems very likely Nintendo will go for at the very least digital backwards compatibility. Personally my guess is a $399 digital only model and a $449 premium model with cart slot and more storage.
 
Zemya said:
Why do the recent switch 2 rumors video use that ugly concept design?

Was there any aesthetical description leak?
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No, none at all.

There's a safe assumption to be made that there's going to be a change in design with the joy-cons (probably to accommodate a new control-based gimmick or smth like that), but past that... no. It's literally just an arms race to see who can make the ugliest console that's ever been made.
 
There would be barely any cost saving between a digital and physical media Switch.

It’s not like they’re taking out a huge disk drive, which is the biggest and one of the most expensive parts of a console. We’re talking about an empty space to fit a 1 inch game card into a tiny internal card connector.
 
SoldierDelta said:
@Shareholder Chad's findings were a nice boost to speculation, but it still remains to be seen how "soon" that reveal is. Looking at the graphs he provided, I believe it's going to be a matter of 2-6 months in terms of amount of time until reveal. Granted, we only have two examples to base speculation on, but that's my guess.

Though, admittedly, I enjoyed Chad's post more because of the insight and fun analysis rather that the Switch 2 speculation, but it is what it is.
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If it’s not announced by late March, the thesis I posted in that thread will have failed. I’m not even gonna give it 3 full months. That said, for me personally the biggest headwind is the situation in the Middle East. If the US becomes actively involved + the Red Sea turns into a complete war zone, I’d expect plans to change.

I should revisit that post I made about the impacts of the Red Sea situation. Upon further research, I may have been wrong in saying it wasn’t anything to worry about in regards to switch 2 plans.
 
YolkFolk said:
There would be barely any cost saving between a digital and physical media Switch.

It’s not like they’re taking out a huge disk drive, which is the biggest and one of the most expensive parts of a console. We’re talking about an empty space to fit a 1 inch game card into a tiny internal card connector.
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It's about the size of a small SSD. It's not an insignificant size that can either be used for better thermals, the storage or bigger battery.

Then even if it's a small piece, it adds complexity and a mechanical part -> reduction of servicing costs.

Lastly 2-3$ can make the difference between a 128Gb and an 256gb chip.

So yeah, it's not just a small cheap part.

(I am still 100% confident that it will have a cartridge slot. I just wanted to clarify that there would be tangible benefits for them for removing it.)
 
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Kit & Krysta's video made me realize that a Digital Switch 2 model might be an excellent idea (for Nintendo). With a Switch 2 Digital (that makes a great slogan, imo) they can sell it at a lower profit, but guaranteeing 100% of a title's sales and, because of it's lower price ($329-$349, maybe $299?), get even more people to buy the console. And since it's going to have a different backplate, they may as well cheap out on it, instead of having a more premium alluminium backplate, have a cheap plastic one, it's a budget console, why not?
 
justanotherperson said:
Kit & Krysta's video made me realize that a Digital Switch 2 model might be an excellent idea (for Nintendo). With a Switch 2 Digital (that makes a great slogan, imo) they can sell it at a lower profit, but guaranteeing 100% of a title's sales and, because of it's lower price ($329-$349, maybe $299?), get even more people to buy the console. And since it's going to have a different backplate, they may as well cheap out on it, instead of having a more premium alluminium backplate, have a cheap plastic one, it's a budget console, why not?
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They will also probably end up making way more off it due to digital sales
 
Magic-Man said:
That would be a strange launch time. In the middle of the summer while families are vacationing and kids are out of the house? Not near any major worldwide holiday? I think it's either May (before the summer starts) or September (close to the holidays).
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I've answered this way before, but officially put me on "Team Launch Month Timing Isn't Very Important". Are they not going to be able to sell launch shipments because everybody is out on vacation or playing in the sandlot? If they could be ready 2-3 months before September, sitting on their hands for that time isn't going to help.
 
Shareholder Chad said:
If it’s not announced by late March, the thesis I posted in that thread will have failed. I’m not even gonna give it 3 full months. That said, for me personally the biggest headwind is the situation in the Middle East. If the US becomes actively involved + the Red Sea turns into a complete war zone, I’d expect plans to change.

I should revisit that post I made about the impacts of the Red Sea situation. Upon further research, I may have been wrong in saying it wasn’t anything to worry about in regards to switch 2 plans.
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Fair enough. I am a curious about how it'll turn out, but I believe the theory to be sound as presented. There isn't strictly a major hole in it, but there's a chance that this is a case where it isn't true due to factor's out of the theory's control. Idk, that's how I interpret it at least.

I believe the next three months match the timing of everything. Y'know Gamescom to full reveal to launch, the stock hike to reveal, the rumors about third-parties... idk I think it all lines up.
 
JoshuaJSlone said:
I've answered this way before, but officially put me on "Team Launch Month Timing Isn't Very Important". Are they not going to be able to sell launch shipments because everybody is out on vacation or playing in the sandlot? If they could be ready 2-3 months before September, sitting on their hands for that time isn't going to help.
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An often under-stated point about console launches is that "wasted time is lethal". All that time that you're sitting on a system after reveal is time that people aren't buying the Switch 1. People become aware of the Switch 2 and just go "oh, I'll wait for the next one", which is very dangerous if you make explicit that the Switch 2 is going to be able to play Switch 1 titles.

You cannot afford to waste time at all, hence why Nintendo will ideally go for as tight of a schedule as possible while maintaining high testing to prevent defective units. That "4.5 month timeframe" is so important for that reason.
 
Aside from my personal preference of wanting a more traditional console (I don't use the Switch in handheld mode that much), a DS to 3DS transition makes the most sense for sure. More power, some extra features, and improvements in various aspects would show why you would want a new Switch. For me PS4 Pro level power is the bare minimum but we'll see just how powerful it is later on.

Also, Kit and Krystal share my sentiment on the whimsy and Nintendo magic of their consoles. The current Switch feels so sterile and dry compared to their previous consoles and even Playstation and Xbox consoles to some extent.
 
YolkFolk said:
There would be barely any cost saving between a digital and physical media Switch.

It’s not like they’re taking out a huge disk drive, which is the biggest and one of the most expensive parts of a console. We’re talking about an empty space to fit a 1 inch game card into a tiny internal card connector.
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True, but Nintendo will make more money out of every first party sale digitally vs physically.

That being said, I don't think they will release a digital-only SKU at launch.
 
eye0h said:
DS-3DS Level transition - Still the same concept but there will be whimsy! Basically more power, QOL and more Nintendo personality
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Oh god, Nintendo. Please give it analog triggers for once. You did that with Gamecube, but removed it later. Now's your chance to shine with it!.. Again!
 
Kise Ryota said:
That's it. A leak just confirmed that Switch 2 will indeed have an open dock


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I'm just watching the first episode of an anime that started airing today and it already starts with this. I couldn't help but bring it to here LOL
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Which anime is that? Please tell me it's not Inukai-san
 
Boxle said:
How is Team January Reveal feeling? Optimistic? Looking to jump forward a couple months?

I feel like we're likely in a similar place to where the Switch was in October of 2016, something is coming soon, but we're not sure when. We know enough about the hardware, but not enough to be satisfied. We'll likely hear about the reveal within 24 hours of it's announcement.

We are truly in uncharted territory aren't we Furukawa?
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i waiting for the may shareholders/fiscal report, to know if Nintendo will at least tease it next console(if they dont do that, expect Nintendo Switch sucessor in 2025/2026 or 2027/2028) and i team launch when is ready.
 
TomNookYankees said:
Notably, NIntendo announced the Switch the October after their September 2016 "3DS Direct", the Switch Lite the July after their 2019 June Direct, and Switch OLED the July after their 2021 June Direct.

Also a January announcement would require nintendo to upload the announcement trailer to youtube in the next 2-3 weeks, which seems unlikley.
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i could see Nintendo anouncing it next console, after the june Direct(something tells me, there still be two direct focused on Switch software
 
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Giancarlo said:
i waiting for the may shareholders/fiscal report, to know if Nintendo will at least tease it next console(if they dont do that, expect Nintendo Switch sucessor in 2025/2026 or 2027/2028) and i team launch when is ready.
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May? Nah, that'll be too late. If they announce it in may, it'll prolly be a 2025 release. I really expect January, but February can too.
 
exciting times but time is surely ticking if we're going to get a Q2 release. some musings - if the announcement does indeed come in March, it's going to be early as possible for a June~ish release to be feasible. early July was mentioned in the video i guess that's possible but the way I see it it's going to be Q2 or September. we're gonna need to hear something pretty damn soon if Q2 is on the cards.

i also don't think MK9 will be a launch title and it will be saved for 2025. you'll be able to get your racing fix from Ridge Racer 8 at launch. i'd love to be wrong however, launching with MK and dropping 3D Mario the same year would quite aggressive and make sense from a sales perspective.
 
I think its silly to launch multiple models during a global cost of living crisis
Even Sony is trying to now consolidate that with the Slim having a detachable Disc Drive

I think Nintendo will just start with the one model of Switch 2 @ $400
And then 2027 we will see whatever the mid-gen model is (Switch 2 Lite? Switch 2 Pro? Switch 2 Refresh?) fpr $400
Switch 2 Base drops to $350 and the Switch OLED Drops to $300 as they phase at the final production lines of Switch 1
By this point base models of the Switch 1 have been phased out (Probably in 2026)
 
Apenknul said:
May? Nah, that'll be too late. If they announce it in may, it'll prolly be a 2025 release. I really expect January, but February can too.
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really? may reveal to a septembre/octobre launch, would give Nintendo 4/5 months of marketing/lead up for it next console
 
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