You're welcomeCool. Might need help with translating if it comes down to that. Thanks for offering.
Still waiting on new data
What's the timeframe on getting the next batch of info there? This month?
He could have been referring to any random rumor like the dual screen patent one, hell he could even be talking about us.
i mean like i said in the sales thread people treat this crap like a sport lmao.
Yeah, they are. I don't think it's what anyone here wants to hear, but this situation resembles a regular console launch much more than the Switch did. Of course, if we had a good amount of current data, the balance would change.
This would be a salient point if we had evidence of mass production amounts of parts being sent to factories. We have evidence of very small amounts of parts being sent to factories. We don't know for what reason or what the timeline is. It's possible that it's just so that the employees can be trained and mass production is starting in two weeks, but it's also possible it's something else. Again, I don't think we should make big assumptions based off of very small amounts of evidence
Consdering the low quantities, they don't sit in inventories, rather they are used in mocked up production and testing line to minimize time and manipulation, in order to maximize output and stability.
Problem is, until we have actual facts of big quantities of parts being moved around, the shipment you guys found lack a lot of context so cant be used to point out at anything else that this parts are being ship from one place to other.
In my first post I specifically say that it's perfectly fine to believe whatever you want to believe. Historical precedents are important when predicting anything, not just console launches. And I don't deny that the shipments are real, I'm just saying people here are putting way too much stock into them.
Cool. Might need help with translating if it comes down to that. Thanks for offering.
Still waiting on new data
This is where things get a little fun when working with denials in press statements. Even if that translation is fully accurate, it can easily be interpreted in this way:
i've seen people at other sites say the switch is "trash" if it's below ps2 lifetime sales. console warriors are the worst
I am Japanese. Furukawa pointed out that the rumors on the Internet about the Switch 2 are inaccurate, and although he did not identify it as Gamescom, he strongly denied the fact that there was a demo outside of Japan this summer about the next generation console.
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I don't think we know. We were mostly only looking at the Nvidia (India) shipments until late October.
I should keep this in the investor meeting thread but it’s dead at the moment.
Wish I knew. I was searching for past data update history (associated with which countries), didn't find any such thing. That kind of info would potentially give us some insight on frequency of updates.
He didn't name Gamescom directly but he mentioned an "overseas event in the Summer of 2023" as being where the rumor took place.
I'm guess there are certain facts about what was shown to developers that perhaps may have been incorrect (based on technicalities).
E3? You mean the event that no longer exists?
Even funnier now since we know that INDY was planned to not replace the Wii U, so they waited to say that just after it became a lie.
this is more part of console wars idiocy, Nintendo need to aim for consistent sucess,Nintendo Switch massive sucess, Switch sucessor flop, they need to keep a consistent sucess
i wonder if more investors will press Shuntaro Furukawa, Nintendo Switch is selling well, but where is the successor?
Not accusing you of anything, just trying to highlight a phenomenon. The "rumors" he referred to as inaccurate we're not Gamescom related. These are separate denials
No, he was referring generally to internet rumors as inaccurate, and he separately said that the report of a Gamescom demo was "false":
This seems like a subtle point, but it isn't. Shoulder picked out a sentence saying "rumors on the internet are wrong", then conflated that with a much more specific Gamescom denial (which is easy to do!), then asked how much of the Gamescom rumor was inaccurate.
Considering the reports came from three separate parties (Nate, Eurogamer, VGC) and were then corroborated by GVG as a fourth party I think Furukawa is being a bit cheeky. I think the gamescom reports were accurate.
Definitely not made up, I mean obviously Furukawa isn’t gonna come out and say “Well damn that shit was leaked, so uh yeah the Switch 2 is a real thing baby!” Nintendo always does this it’s just their MO
Assuming it's true (which I still firmly believe it is) Furukawa technically would not be lying by saying the Switch 2 wasn't demonstrated at Gamescom. The reports about the showcase said it wasn't done with an actual Switch 2 model but rather with hardware targeting the Switch 2's specs.
This is an excellent TLDR.
We only just learned that today?
Yeah that's one of the reasons I believe there will be at least 5-6 months between announcement and release. Would especially feel bad for customers that are upgrading or replacing their current switch only to have a better product released shortly after. I think giving customers plenty of notice is beneficial even if it slows sales a little bit.
As the good old Obi Wan Kenobi would say... "it's true in a certain point of view".
