They either add onto the current roster for the next several games until they feel the need to reboot the series, or reboot the series now. With either of these scenarios they better give us a real successor to Subspace. Everyone wants it, it's just Sakurai who is being stubborn about it.
That's a lot of what I'm having trouble with.
Someone here mentioned the idea of a 3d smash. If done properly (please don't shoot me. Sure they can surprise us with not just some "simple 3d"), that could be the revolution to advance the series.
You reboot it.
To be fair, the next Smash will be playable on future hardware, soooooooooo
They promised "everyone" and we got something close to 0.000001% of the world population. Now it's time to include "everyone else".
As someone who isn't a big Smash player, I think the ideal solution would be if they make an enhanced port of Ultimate for NG and give it a new name (perhaps just "Super Smash Bros.") and have it be the "standard" version of Smash that will get constantly updated and developed over NG's lifespan, perhaps even reaching over to later consoles. Kinda like a game-as-a-service thing except without the consumer unfriendly stuff. That way they can continue Smash without having to lose anything from Ultimate.
They kinda already have miis tho
That's the worst case scenario in my opinion. Ultimate has been out for 6 years and is starting to feel stale, much like how Mario Kart 8 is feeling. I believe most people want a brand new entry, most will not care if it does not have 80+ characters, as long as the gameplay feels fresh and has something that makes it stand out from all the other smash bros games.
Smash works as well for sure. That’s about it, though, IMO.This is a company that has sold Wii remasters for $60. $70 for Smash + both character passes, 4K/60 would easily be worth the money and sell a lot. Could even add more content on top of that. I see this happening. I guess we shall see. Friendly speculation on my part.
Oh, I totally think so.
Isn't the Switch 2 mostly comprised of newer and better stuff than the Steam Deck? I guess it has less RAM but idk if that's a fair direct comparison since console and PC RAM isn't a 1 to 1 comparison. Unless Nintendo severely underclocks the thing I don't think it would end up playing worse than the Steam Deck in handheld.
Time to add Bad Mr. Frosty
They wouldn't have to neccessarily make it just Ultimate but continously updated. They could give the new game its own identity and have it evolve over time in order to keep the game feeling fresh as many PC games do. Add new modes and gameplay features etc to also keep it from just being more of the same thing. However that brings up the issue of preservation and the ability to play older versions if undesirable changes were made to the fundamentals of the game which is something I do care about. That's what I don't really like about games as a service, it's something I didn't consider in my original post.
Other fighting games have moved on from dream rosters before, so I don’t see the issue. And unless they completely start from scratch, I don’t think we’ll go below the launch 3DS/Wii U roster in size. Hell, there are quite a few places to improve…
This is an imperfect comparison because the Deck does not have separate portable and docked modes.
I think with smash bros being the type of game it is, it would be very hard to do that. I feel like the game would get really bloated, with no real single focus. The core of the game would be lost. Also, the team that has worked on smash since smash 4 is not set up like that, they would have to greatly increase the amount of staff to work on the game. Ultimate is the 3rd best selling switch game, I don't think Nintendo would want to take the risk of turning ultimate into a free to play, games as a service game.
Those points won't really appeal to the public though. Saying "This game has less latency and better matchmaking!" wouldn't really appeal to the casual crowd.
Hence why I mentioned things like better single-player.
To my knowledge, they've all always connected to something since Nintendo can't guarantee any demand will be there for Amiibo unless they have new software news going alongside it. This has always been the case.
While this is the outdated theory, this post has two images of the document with all of them included.
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But for real I think a new Star Fox will come in the launch window for Switch 2. I’m hoping they can get it out in the first year. I want that maximum hype for it with a release of a new system. I want it at the switch 2 reveal. Right there with you. I was curious and looked at the total...famiboards.com
Yeah, agreed that it's not a good choice for Switch 2 and maybe not anything out now, just disagree that it's not advantageous for "consoles" overall.
Nintendo Switch sucessor having a battery life of 5h or higher, is important to me, because i mostly play my Switch in handheld mode
A better single player is not enough, especially considering smash bros is a multiplayer game first and foremost. Smash Ultimate in many ways was just an improved Smash 4. At this point in the franchises history, it needs a reinvention. Completely overhaul the older character's movesets, add a new gimmick or two for casuals whilst leaning more into the competitive scene. I am not entirely sure how they could pull it off, but I am sure Sakurai has been brainstorming ideas for the past few years.
Mortal Kombat keeps throwing out not just characters but the entire timeline, and has had big enough success with enough recent iterations that it overtook Smash series sales.
And not only that, they've also removed console branding from back of amiibos, after it has been unchanged for 6.5 years (since June 2017).
yes, if the next Super Smash Bros, massively overhaul/change the characters moveset, it would be excelent, make Mario, Link, Ganondorf with attack, more in line with the games, Ganondorf should use his dead man volley as one of his special attack
I'm honestly not sure... The Game Awards could work if it's ONLY Metroid that gets something, but that'll fall out of the 16-day average, and I still think it's possible we see something Smash and Zelda. (Mario restocks could easily relate to the 6 trillion Mario things releasing lol)
But MK has more entries than Smash.
Right. Throwing out their character lineup and selling more games rather than trying to sell one game for a decade has worked out for them.
And not only that, they've also removed console branding from back of amiibos, after it has been unchanged for 6.5 years (since June 2017).
Left is the new design. The right is what existed since May 2017 until the change to the left design.
And not only that, they've also removed console branding from back of amiibos, after it has been unchanged for 6.5 years (since June 2017).
Left is the new design. The right is what existed since May 2017 until the change to the left design.
It would be Prime 4. Unless Nate has heard new information, that's still slated for H1 2024. They don't tend to have Amiibo restocks for ports of games with no Amiibo compatibility and Prime 2 doesn't have any, and neither does Prime 1 Remastered, so they didn't restock any Metroid Amiibo when that was revealed/released.
I think the point isn't "why would they remove the packaging?" it's more "why would they do it now (August 28th) when we're already so close to a possible hardware reveal?". They have little reason to act now and not promote the new features they come with, like being able to scan them without opening the box, if they don't want to tie this into a new announcement of some sort.
It coming out in 2025/2026 is likely and will fall in line with Mercurysteam's development timeline, so it being at TGA 2023 doesn't make a ton of sense. 2024 is too early.
Yet you're kind of going "hmm hmm" about Nov 10 restocking date, lol. I mean, that wouldn't be hard evidence of imminent announcement either by its lonesome. For the record, I didn't say it was a sign of imminent announcement either.
I agree, and I honestly think that's a point in its favor. It doesn't seemingly have any connection to new hardware, but why get rid of the branding now? They could be getting stock ready for an announcement of some sort, and they want to make sure stores have enough stock when they show off new software. Since the software will relate to new hardware, they don't only have the Switch be branded, but since they don't want to give anything away, they just got rid of all of the consoles. I don't see a reason for them to do this now otherwise.
Yes, yes it would.
