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OctoSplattack said:
In my mind, announcement would be a big standard press release or short statement like what they did for the 3DS or the Switch (when we only knew it as the NX). Basically "Nintendo Co. Ltd. will release [insert name here] in fiscal year ending March 202X. Details to follow on [insert date/event here]."

Reveal would be actually seeing the console, ala past E3 blowouts or the Switch reveal video.
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Then November in terms of announcing the intention to release new hardware in H2 2024 to investors & March in the case of revealing the Switch 2 itself.
 
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Νεφέλωμα said:
Nah, he is just retiring before they start seriously working on the PS6 and beyond. I would say Sony (and maybe Microsoft) is looking into the hybrid tablet idea, no doubt.
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Having both a traditional console and a hybrid tablet seems like a bad idea. Wasn't the whole point of the Switch for Nintendo that they wouldn't have to have separate hardware and software for console and hanheld? Sure, hybrids have more parity with consoles now, but it seems counterintuitive.
 
HankyPanky said:
can someone explain how games get rated by accident? i would presume there is a submission process and they don't just choose a random game to rate for a system it's not intended to release on.
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usually it's games getting submitted and not revealed before the rating goes public

other times it's a clerical error

personally, I think it's the former
 
I think this next generation, we're going balls to the walls with 3DS and Wii ports.
The vast majority of Wii U games are done (Zelda and Xenoblade Chronicles Twitter nonwithstanding), and even Gamecube is slowly but steadily clearing out.

DS will be hard to justify full priced ports, they either need to be ground up remakes (Which defeats the purpose of having easy games to put out to fill gaps), or added to NSO, which I feel will be most likley for that library.

So that leaves 3DS and Wii as the biggest mines they can tap into. It made sense to save a lot of 3DS since it was just the generation prior and now they can take advantage of DLSS and what not to make them bigger jumps.

Starting with Dark Moon, I think we're getting a steady cadence of 3DS/Wii ports in every direct alongside Gamecube. Maybe Kid Icarus Uprising as a good starting point for the new system. A 4K DLSS version would be an awesome showcase, like the original itself was for the 3DS. I can also see Ocarina/Majora as almost assuradley making it to fill the gap between the next 3D Zelda (assuming WW/TP will make it on soon)
 
Joy-Boy said:
I think this next generation, we're going balls to the walls with 3DS and Wii ports.
The vast majority of Wii U games are done (Zelda and Xenoblade Chronicles Twitter nonwithstanding), and even Gamecube is slowly but steadily clearing out.

DS will be hard to justify full priced ports, they either need to be ground up remakes (Which defeats the purpose of having easy games to put out to fill gaps), or added to NSO, which I feel will be most likley for that library.

So that leaves 3DS and Wii as the biggest mines they can tap into. It made sense to save a lot of 3DS since it was just the generation prior and now they can take advantage of DLSS and what not to make them bigger jumps.

Starting with Dark Moon, I think we're getting a steady cadence of 3DS/Wii ports in every direct alongside Gamecube. Maybe Kid Icarus Uprising as a good starting point for the new system. A 4K DLSS version would be an awesome showcase, like the original itself was for the 3DS. I can also see Ocarina/Majora as almost assuradley making it to fill the gap between the next 3D Zelda (assuming WW/TP will make it on soon)
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There's like nothing that interesting to remake from the 3DS other than A Link Between Worlds and Kirby Robobot, this is the issue with the 3DS and WiiU having such similar game lineups.

I could see a lot of cheap (LM2-like) remasters for Samus Returns, OoT, MM, and Pokemon XY.

Kid Icarus requires so much work that it would be a little tough.
 
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YolkFolk said:
Like I say, you made that opinion very early on and refused to change it.

It’s a huge leap over the last FIFA game and although it isn’t at the level of the other versions, it gets the absolute most out of the current Switch hardware. The player models up close especially look light years over the Legacy Edition.

It’s comfortably the best ‘real’ sports game on Switch, although the competition isn’t great tbf! Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying this game is amazing either but it certainly doesn’t look ‘horrible’ and it’s a good effort from EA.

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Based off of the gameplay I saw earlier and the gameplay I saw today my stance hasn’t changed. I’m only basing this on what I actually see through video feed and nothing else. Your comparison screenshots don’t change anything for me. Not a big deal, I’ll see what fc25 looks like on the next system. Should be better looking along with hitting 60fps. To each their own.
 
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redmutineer75 said:
Having both a traditional console and a hybrid tablet seems like a bad idea. Wasn't the whole point of the Switch for Nintendo that they wouldn't have to have separate hardware and software for console and hanheld? Sure, hybrids have more parity with consoles now, but it seems counterintuitive.
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I think they are testing the waters right now with the Q. But Playstation can't do a Nintendo and release out of nowhere an ARM based hybrid cause tehy haven't had a failure like the Wii U to jusñtify breaking free. they have to make it right, backwards compatible,... I can see a hybrid PS7.
 
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Joy-Boy said:
I think this next generation, we're going balls to the walls with 3DS and Wii ports.
The vast majority of Wii U games are done (Zelda and Xenoblade Chronicles Twitter nonwithstanding), and even Gamecube is slowly but steadily clearing out.

DS will be hard to justify full priced ports, they either need to be ground up remakes (Which defeats the purpose of having easy games to put out to fill gaps), or added to NSO, which I feel will be most likley for that library.

So that leaves 3DS and Wii as the biggest mines they can tap into. It made sense to save a lot of 3DS since it was just the generation prior and now they can take advantage of DLSS and what not to make them bigger jumps.

Starting with Dark Moon, I think we're getting a steady cadence of 3DS/Wii ports in every direct alongside Gamecube. Maybe Kid Icarus Uprising as a good starting point for the new system. A 4K DLSS version would be an awesome showcase, like the original itself was for the 3DS. I can also see Ocarina/Majora as almost assuradley making it to fill the gap between the next 3D Zelda (assuming WW/TP will make it on soon)
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Nintendo needs to give use another Zelda collectors edition again. Imagine Windwaker HD, Twilight princess HD, Majoras mask 3D and ocarina of time 3D all bundled together.
 
Nintendo being so small makes it less likely too. Alot of these companies got very bloated during the Covid Era
 
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MSnap said:
Steam Deck is super janky compared to Switch and the battery life isn’t anywhere near as good.
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Depends on the game quite honestly. You can get 4hrs if you manage your settings properly.

And I will disagree on the jankiness because the Deck is a shit ton more comfortable to hold than the Switch, and that’s even with the Satisfye grip. The analog sticks are perfectly placed for my hand size, and the grips themselves are more ergonomic than they have any right to be.
 
I know this isn’t Nintendo related, but I can envision a future where home console gaming has evolved to the point of stagnating, not offering anything new and handheld tech evolved to the point of offering impressive graphical performances, and Sony decides to enter the portable market again
 
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Shoulder said:
And I will disagree on the jankiness because the Deck is a shit ton more comfortable to hold than the Switch, and that’s even with the Satisfye grip. The analog sticks are perfectly placed for my hand size, and the grips themselves are more ergonomic than they have any right to be.
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The software is jankier compared to the Switch. I reset every game before docking it and the quick menu barely works on an external display.
 
Games from the Wii/DS/3DS era most likely to be remade

Lower resource remakes: Pokemon B&W, Pokemon XY, OoT 3D, MM 3D, Metroid Prime 2, Metroid Prime 3, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Wario Land: Shake It, Mario Strikers Charged

Potential Bigger budget remakes: Super Mario Galaxy 1, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Kirby Robobot, A Link Between Worlds

These are the only games (from Nintendo) from these consoles I could see coming over in a big way to the Switch 2.

Maybe Fire Emblem Awakening as well, but idk.

Kid Icarus would be really really hard to do and it's so weird that it might be a niche release.
 
Ghostsonplanets said:
Nintendo is hiring. Unlike others competitors, they didn't agressively targeted acquisitions during COVID, sans Next-Level and that programming company I forgot the name. Furukuwa already said they believe in organic growth instead.
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There was also Dynamo Pictures (now Nintendo Pictures) in 2022, but that's obviously different.
 
Serif said:
The software is jankier compared to the Switch. I reset every game before docking it and the quick menu barely works on an external display.
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Actually, quick tip about that. You can set the games to run at a higher resolution internally so you won’t have to reset before docking. Still a dumb workaround, but it exists.
 
Thombias said:
The more time passes the more i'm starting to think we might see a repeat of what Nintendo did with the Switch 1. So a short reveal video showcasing the features and possibilities of the system with some game footage in October followed by a proper presentation in January, and March being the release. (October really can't come soon enough!)

I don't know how or what kinds of features they could show this time, since the Switch 2 is literally just the same thing with more power, but maybe it will have much more new features or gimmicks that justify one such October reveal video again.

Although like ReddDreadtheLead said, it might as well just be a deadline for devs & publishers to get their game presentations ready for a Direct or a reveal of some kind.
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I'm Team Symmetry. I demand an October launch of a Mario game (2016 Color Splash/2023 Wonder), then the October Nintendo hardware reveal, coincidentally on the same day as a Rockstar sequel announcement (2016 RDR2/2023 GTA VI), then a live presentation from Tokyo in January (2017 Switch Presentation/2024 Nintendo Live), hardware launch in March with Zelda (2017 BotW launch/2024 BotW and TotK enhancement patches) among other things, Mario Kart in April (2017 MK8DX launch/2024 MK8DX enhancement patch), Metroid Prime 4 announcement in June (2017 teaser/2024 re-reveal), Splatoon in July (2017 S2 launch/2024 S3 enhancement patch), and 3D Mario in October (2017 Odyssey/2024 new 3D Mario).
 
MSnap said:
Actually, quick tip about that. You can set the games to run at a higher resolution internally so you won’t have to reset before docking. Still a dumb workaround, but it exists.
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I do! Doesn't fix when my external controller isn't detected :')
 
LiC said:
I'm Team Symmetry. I demand an October launch of a Mario game (2016 Color Splash/2023 Wonder), then the October Nintendo hardware reveal, coincidentally on the same day as a Rockstar sequel announcement (2016 RDR2/2023 GTA VI), then a live presentation from Tokyo in January (2017 Switch Presentation/2024 Nintendo Live), hardware launch in March with Zelda (2017 BotW launch/2024 BotW and TotK enhancement patches) among other things, Mario Kart in April (2017 MK8DX launch/2024 MK8DX enhancement patch), Metroid Prime 4 announcement in June (2017 teaser/2024 re-reveal), Splatoon in July (2017 S2 launch/2024 S3 enhancement patch), and 3D Mario in October (2017 Odyssey/2024 new 3D Mario).
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This but I expect the patches to be there at launch for the most part.
 
Serif said:
I do! Doesn't fix when my external controller isn't detected :')
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Ah yeah, you have to tell it to reorder controllers every time. It’s a real pain. Also no real way to wake it up remotely unless you have a Steam Controller/adapter.
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Games from the Wii/DS/3DS era most likely to be remade

Lower resource remakes: Pokemon B&W, Pokemon XY, OoT 3D, MM 3D, Metroid Prime 2, Metroid Prime 3, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Wario Land: Shake It, Mario Strikers Charged

Potential Bigger budget remakes: Super Mario Galaxy 1, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Kirby Robobot, A Link Between Worlds

These are the only games (from Nintendo) from these consoles I could see coming over in a big way to the Switch 2.

Maybe Fire Emblem Awakening as well, but idk.

Kid Icarus would be really really hard to do and it's so weird that it might be a niche release.
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One thing is that I can't really think of any GB/NES/SNES/N64 games from Nintendo that make sense to remake (other than OoT and MM) right now. Going to be interesting.
 
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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Games from the Wii/DS/3DS era most likely to be remade

Lower resource remakes: Pokemon B&W, Pokemon XY, OoT 3D, MM 3D, Metroid Prime 2, Metroid Prime 3, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Wario Land: Shake It, Mario Strikers Charged

Potential Bigger budget remakes: Super Mario Galaxy 1, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Kirby Robobot, A Link Between Worlds

These are the only games (from Nintendo) from these consoles I could see coming over in a big way to the Switch 2.

Maybe Fire Emblem Awakening as well, but idk.

Kid Icarus would be really really hard to do and it's so weird that it might be a niche release.
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Not sure Galaxy duo need a remake, especially a big budget one.
Like Mario 64, I think Galaxy will make its way back to Switch in some other form, probably just the 3D All Stars version bundled with Galaxy 2, shadowdropped in some random direct.

1 already looks and play fantastic on Switch. If any 3D Mario is getting a remake, I think 3D Land probably makes the most sense, that's the only one truly stuck where it is.
 
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Hermii said:
Well, if theyre as cheap as theyre made out to be they can probably pay quite a hefty fine and still make a profit. I would go with one of these 2 explanations:

1. Its a tech issue.

2. They arent as cheap as theyre made out to be.
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3. The technology is simply arriving too late to be worthwhile backporting to Switch.

The 2017 paper was an initial investigation of a test chip, to prove out the technology. In 2019, Macronix stated that they would introduce SGVC NAND once their standard 3D NAND business had been established. That was delayed in party due to COVID, but they started production of 48-layer 3D NAND in 2021 and 96-layer in 2022, so I suppose now's around the time you could count their 3D NAND business as being established.
 
Joy-Boy said:
I think this next generation, we're going balls to the walls with 3DS and Wii ports.
The vast majority of Wii U games are done (Zelda and Xenoblade Chronicles Twitter nonwithstanding), and even Gamecube is slowly but steadily clearing out.

DS will be hard to justify full priced ports, they either need to be ground up remakes (Which defeats the purpose of having easy games to put out to fill gaps), or added to NSO, which I feel will be most likley for that library.

So that leaves 3DS and Wii as the biggest mines they can tap into. It made sense to save a lot of 3DS since it was just the generation prior and now they can take advantage of DLSS and what not to make them bigger jumps.

Starting with Dark Moon, I think we're getting a steady cadence of 3DS/Wii ports in every direct alongside Gamecube. Maybe Kid Icarus Uprising as a good starting point for the new system. A 4K DLSS version would be an awesome showcase, like the original itself was for the 3DS. I can also see Ocarina/Majora as almost assuradley making it to fill the gap between the next 3D Zelda (assuming WW/TP will make it on soon)
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I'd commit atrocities for a Fire Emblem Awakening remaster
 
Serif said:
The software is jankier compared to the Switch. I reset every game before docking it and the quick menu barely works on an external display.
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Ah I see now. You’re docking it, which while possible was never it’s primary purpose.

It’s like plugging in a smartphone to a TV in a way. Yeah, it can be done, and it’ll work well enough, but it might not be as seamless as a device like the Switch, which was designed from the ground up to do both.
 
Goblin_knight said:
Nintendo needs to give use another Zelda collectors edition again. Imagine Windwaker HD, Twilight princess HD, Majoras mask 3D and ocarina of time 3D all bundled together.
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I wanna say something. I'm gonna put it out there; if you like it, you can take it, if you don't, send it right back: TP/WW cross-gen & 4k OoT/MM as Switch 2 exclusives.

Whether they'd oversaturate the market (not all 4 same day though) with Zelda's like that (or cheapen them as combos) is arguable though. Not a serious theory anyway.
 
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Hosermess said:
I wanna say something. I'm gonna put it out there; if you like it, you can take it, if you don't, send it right back: TP/WW cross-gen & 4k OoT/MM as Switch 2 exclusives.

Whether they'd oversaturate the market with Zelda's like that (or cheapen them with combos) is arguable though. Not a serious theory anyway.
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Nintendo were aiming for one Zelda a year (I believe there was even an interview where they said that was the goal.
(Links Awakening in 2019, Age of Calamity in 2020, Skyward Sword in 2021, and Tears was supposed to be 2022)

Given we have minimum 5-6 years before a new 3D Zelda, there's pleanty of time to get it all.
 
Hosermess said:
I wanna say something. I'm gonna put it out there; if you like it, you can take it, if you don't, send it right back: TP/WW cross-gen & 4k OoT/MM as Switch 2 exclusives.

Whether they'd oversaturate the market (not all 4 same day though) with Zelda's like that (or cheapen them as combos) is arguable though. Not a serious theory anyway.
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Sounds fun but if OoT/MM are exclusives do they get upgrades outside of resolution? Like better textures, some Raytraced lighting effects etc.
 
Joy-Boy said:
Nintendo were aiming for one Zelda a year (I believe there was even an interview where they said that was the goal.
(Links Awakening in 2019, Age of Calamity in 2020, Skyward Sword in 2021, and Tears was supposed to be 2022)

Given we have minimum 5-6 years before a new 3D Zelda, there's pleanty of time to get it all.
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If 4 of those years have a remake, that leaves room for 2 more, which I'd guess would be a spinoff (most likely Hyrule Warriors 3) and a new original 2D Zelda from Grezzo similar to the Link's Awakening remake.
 
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Goblin_knight said:
Sounds fun but if OoT/MM are exclusives do they get upgrades outside of resolution? Like better textures, some Raytraced lighting effects etc.
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Honestly the games need remade again. Those games running at 4k 60fps would barely be a task for the Switch 2 since they're 3ds games. Those games deserve more if the system is as much of a leap as we think it is.
 
Goblin_knight said:
Sounds fun but if OoT/MM are exclusives do they get upgrades outside of resolution? Like better textures, some Raytraced lighting effects etc.
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If we do see Oot/MM for the switch 2 I could imagine that they do a full on remake or a rerelease of the 3ds Oot/MM on Nintendo switch online.
 
Hermii said:
This is about as ridiculous as "this game looks to good" or "this game has uncapped framerate to prepare for pro".
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That's overegging the pudding, don't you think?

Cities Skylines was on Switch and quite good! I'm not saying this definitely is a hint to it coming to Switch 2: but I do find it interesting that both seem to be landing in early 2024. I do think they leave the door open to a Switch 2 port.

This is a speculation thread, anyway. Ridiculing speculation is usually not the function of this place.
 
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