If the visually-enhanced Breath of the Wild is reportedly running at 60 on the NG then this shouldn't be a problem, even then you still get reduced to 30 as a graphics-prioritisation trade-off with PS5 and Series X titles, so even 45 or 50 would be more than fine
Yeah, but the thing is Bowser’s Fury is tiny. I can see multiple Bowser‘s Fury maps stitched together tho.
The next Zelda on the new Switch won’t be 60fps either. Not that they can’t do it, but they would want to push the visuals.
Except we can have those billion detailed little rocks and foliage... Switch 2 might not be a full fledged current gen console, but if it indeed ran Matrix Awakens then it's doing Nanite, aka automated LODs with varying amounts of geometry depending on your current position. I have no idea if EPD Tokyo can develop a propietary solution like Ubisoft's Massive, but they should be able to.
One big map = open world. That's what I thought "open world" meant.
Well yes, let’s make another 30fps or 20fps Mario game. That would go over well. My initial post was how Nintendo would want to avoid that at all cost, hence why open world Mario at this point is still unlikely even with the more powerful Switch.
A month ban for this seems way overzealous, why not a warning first?
Well yes, you could say open world is just more of the same but bigger and seamless. 3D Mario currently works with levels and locations you access through separate means, real open worlds are fully explorable from start to finish and aren't actually split. I think that's what people mean.
that's very possible. the reason you don't see it often is because few devs set that as a target
I would say a more fleshed out bowsers fury would be pretty different to what we have now as the standard. Different mounts for each large open space to traverse in different ways would be one huge differentiator imo. Same with multiple bosses that impact the environment and change how you move around the level. I just don't see mario being open world to be that innovative compared to several large scale maps, the gameplay doesn't call for it in my brain. I guess we will just have to see what they come up with. Regardless, I'm more interested in the movement and the mechanics of whatever gimmick they have cooking up in terms of innovation.
could be packed in content, and still be 60fps. Doesn't have to animate every hair in Mario's mustache.
Close enough, the PS5's CPU actually only goes up to 3.5GHz, but yes I've been saying ~66% or 2/3rds. I think PS5 CPU is tasked with RT stuff iirc too right? Like in Spiderman, something that shouldn't need to happen nearly as much on Drake, though I'm really just looking at this as "impossible" ports for Switch 2 and if the CPU is really a problem.
It could still have that at 60fps. Especially when it doesn't try to target a realistic art style.
this is one of the worst takes I've seen on. Why the fuck would Capcom ignore the Switch 2? They're one of the closest third parties with Nintendo
A big part of the Mario charm is how distinct the Worlds/Kingdoms are so different and distinct to the point they're practically existing within alternate realities or parallel universes from each other, not sure how you could take things like the Wood Kingdom, Mushroom Kingdom, Cloud Kingdom, Lake Kingdom and Ruined or Lost Kingdoms etc. and mesh them together into the same overworld without making it an actual design clusterfuck, and then toning it down to be more believable would result in losing that more fantastical feeling
me when capcom releases mh rise 2 for iphones only 0.0
Especially considering Capcom literally assigned a separate dedicated team just to work on and deliver MH:Rise, a timed exclusive (meaning: wasn't available on PC until later). This is a team separate from MHW team.
60fps absolutely would be the target as the system is way more powerful and only needs to render internally at 1080/60 to achieve 4k visuals. whatever the next 3D Mario title is (lets say it's signicantly more 'open world') it's going to run 60fps, no problem.
Does this, combined with architectural advantages, mean Switch 2 can likely run 60fps current gen exclusives at 30fsp?
AYO what did they say lmao
Iirc, an EPD Donkey Kong game was supposedly leaked 2 years ago and was said to not appeal to core DK fans and now we have the Mario Vs DK remake that seems to be have been developed by EPD. I had always that rumor was referring to classic DK, so who knows?
I sure think so. The games that Nintendo usually guns for 60 anyways on the regular Switch are lighter ones that would run at something like close to 120FPS when CPU-limited and not GPU-limited on something like the current-gen consoles. Wouldn’t be surprised one bit if 60FPS was even reserved for lighter third-party titles on the new device. Games like Rocket League, Fortnite (unless it uses Lumen/Nanite?), Fall Guys, etc.
Ohhhh.....
I think not having Fortnite with Lumen and Nanite at 60fps would be a big missed opportunity for Nintendo. at least the Matrix demo gives hope that it will be possible
This is the binned PS5 APU, with the same power curves, and the 3.5 number of from Cerny rather than docs, so I suspect this is actually the same clock.
Yeah, this is why I said “define competitive.” Whether the system can deliver depends on the nature of the games being developed. Many of which haven’t released.
Yeah, like I said, related CPU. We also don’t know clocks. We also don’t have a gaming specific benchmark, we have this generalized desktop/server derived benchmark
Depends on the nature of the game, obviously. I will say that the CPU wouldn’t be the issue in converting a 60fps game to 30fps.
Nintendo and the Drake
Capcom is also being moneyhatted by Sony with regards to Street Fighter V and 6.
I didn't see the comment, I just think a month-long posting ban as an immediate reaction without a formal caution or whatever is absolutely absurd, especially when any temporary ban means it wasn't beyond the pale enough to warrant an outright removal of the user anyway
What would be a bigger hurdle than the CPU? Memory or storage speed? With DLSS the Switch 2 GPU can get by just by rendering internally at 720p, which I would think it can do, right?
Honestly I don't see an issue with 30fps anyway and I think people blow it out of proportion to the point it sounds like experiencing anything running at 30fps is no different than watching a stop motion animation, but again they probably could shoot for 45fps on Zelda and keep those nice visuals
Starfield is 1440p upscaled to 4K, at 30FPS, on Xbox Series X.
Even running Tears of the Kingdom on Yuzu at 30 still looks gorgeous, mostly because it removes that fuzzy/crinkling effect in the distances, fixes the shadows and adds more vivid colour to everything, so if the next Zelda held steady at 30 but didn't have that annoying screen fuzz and blobby shadows there'd be no fault in it!
The mario team are adamant about 60fps, despite there being a few outliers.
They haven't done anything since the Sunbreak. The ports and collections they're having were cheap cashgrabs, only ROM dumps and mobile ports. I'd really want something from Capcom in the successor but since they were the only publisher who didn't bother with a miracle port on Switch, it's unlikely them to bother with the successor.
I think that "separate teams" thing was only for MHW and MHR specifically. MH6 is gonna be bigger than both of them, I expect them to combine teams to work on that.
The same could be said for Monster Hunter World.
Switch 2 wouldn't require miracle ports though. It's much easier and cheaper to port to Switch 2 to the point there's no reason not to.
