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Mr.Gamerson said:
8 inch screen also means bigger size, which may mean bigger battery? I think 8inches and 1080p are a good compromise for lack of Oled, but i hope the bezels aren't too big. Also, hopefully this leads more credence to the system being as powerful as we may have hoped and the leaks seem to indicate.
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The OLED model model had already gotten ever so slightly bigger than the original Switch, so assuming Nintendo wants to maintain compatibility with the Switch docks, the only area they cant get bigger is in thickness. It can certainly get wider and taller without breaking compatibility with the docks. Joy cons may not line up flush, but so what. Honestly, I am not at all confident that Joy Cons are going to be compatible with Switch NG, at least in portable mode. Switch already basically supports all Bluetooth controllers, Joy Cons and the Switch Pro controller will still be supported on Switch NG.
 
Skittzo said:
It's probably on the table, but I feel like it's still unlikely due to how bad the power consumption is. Just slapping on a bigger battery won't solve it if the power curve is that bad for such a big GPU.

Especially because a bigger screen is also gonna draw more power.
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Yep. The last thing Nvidia/ Nintendo would do is to have a gpu that's too large to be clocked efficiently. A bigger battery doesn't change that.
 
Josh5890 said:
Counterpoint: It has been in development since the restart in early 2019. Prime 4 has likely been developed for the OG Switch for a long time. I don't think they will have moved it to the next system exclusively.
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I don’t think it will be exclusive. I think it will have been given a next gen go over by a couple of years by the time it launches. Switch will get a respectable version.
 
Dark Cloud said:
We have some things rumored right now. What's the next biggest thing people want to know as far as an internal component of the system? Is it the RAM?
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RAM
GPU and CPU clock speeds
Fabrication node

Assuming Switch NG will have T239 chip with everything in the hack, thats all the info we all need.

We that we can more or less speculate of how capable this device will be vs last or current gen Sony/Microsoft systems.
 
LoneRanger said:
RAM
GPU and CPU clock speeds
Fabrication node

Assuming Switch NG will have T239 chip with everything in the hack, thats all the info we all need.

We that we can more or less speculate of how capable this device will be vs last or current gen Sony/Microsoft systems.
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Forgot about storage speed.
 
The possibility of much more internal storage is exciting but I'd also really love to see the ability to hook up an external drive to the dock. I'm expecting the file sizes for games to increase by a pretty fair bit given the jump in specs (like going form PS3-PS4). I'd also love a second microSD card slot but that feels even more unlikely.

When it comes to backwards compatibility I try not to get too worked up because it really would be a disaster to tell 120+ million users "womp womp" when it comes to their libraries (I personally have nearly 200 digital Switch games and I'd be turbo pissed if they were stuck). A few publishers whining about it hurting potential sales of up-scaled ports isn't worth throwing away trust in the ecosystem. It would be an Xbox One reveal level of a shit show.
 
Just some thoughts.

I am definitely an OLED > LCD kind of guy. However, since we don't have the full specs of the LCD yet, I think it's worth considering why they might have gone that way. Cost could be one factor, but feature set is another.

If they wanted to throw in a 120hz display with VRR like the ROG Ally, the LCD panel of that would almost certainly be a lot cheaper than an OLED with the same features. While I doubt 120hz would be used for everything, mostly indie titles, it also opens up the door for 40hz mode in games (which is great btw). If the handheld screen had those features, rather than just HDMI 2.1 compatible TVs, it would likely entice developers to build better support for those features more often than if there wasn't any option for handheld mode.
 
Boxle said:
Just some thoughts.

I am definitely an OLED > LCD kind of guy. However, since we don't have the full specs of the LCD yet, I think it's worth considering why they might have gone that way. Cost could be one factor, but feature set is another.

If they wanted to throw in a 120hz display with VRR like the ROG Ally, the LCD panel of that would almost certainly be a lot cheaper than an OLED with the same features. While I doubt 120hz would be used for everything, mostly indie titles, it also opens up the door for 40hz mode in games (which is great btw). If the handheld screen had those features, rather than just HDMI 2.1 compatible TVs, it would likely entice developers to build better support for those features more often than if there wasn't any option for handheld mode.
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If we take Moizuchi on his word, the panel supplier was involved since the R&D stage. That wouldn't have been necessary with a standard panel. So its possible Nintendo has added features like the ones you mentioned.
 
Isn't the possibility of Nintendo having 512GB show how much Nintendo cares about third party? We know their games tend to be bigger than Nintendo's. I know they usually shrink them down too on the Switch when they're ported. When I think of the Call of Duty games and other huge third party games it would show Nintendo is looking out for all of them. It can mean Nintendo has good relation with these companies to bring these games to the Switch 2 already.
 
Hermii said:
If we take Moizuchi on his word, the panel supplier was involved since the R&D stage. That wouldn't have been necessary with a standard panel. So its possible Nintendo has added features like the ones you mentioned.
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Super Stable HDR
 
LoneRanger said:
Honestly, with these case like SWJ Survivor getting PS4/XOne ports, PS5/XSeries not getting a Switch 2 (late) port will be a matter of politics rather than technical problems.
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Exactly, in fact I think that has been the reason many times, both in the past and in the present.
But obviously, if it's still happening on Switch 2, that's definitely going to be the reason on Switch 2.
 
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So you think Capcom has Resident Evil Revelations 3 ready for Switch 2 launch just like RER1 was a 3DS launch showcase?

So far most of the Nvidia game leaks have been proven correct. Hope RER3 is one of those.
 
ReyVGM said:
So you think Capcom has Resident Evil Revelations 3 ready for Switch 2 launch just like RER1 was a 3DS launch showcase?

So far most of the Nvidia game leaks have been proven correct. Hope RER3 is one of those.
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You gotta wonder what Capcom, Square, and Sega are cooking for the Switch 2...They've probably been at it for awhile.
 
Dark Cloud said:
We have some things rumored right now. What's the next biggest thing people want to know as far as an internal component of the system? Is it the RAM?
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Besides the elephant in the closet (backwards compatibility)? Just tell me what format the expandable storage will be.
 
kvetcha said:
is this a bit?
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Nah he might be right. On the one hand it would be odd to target 1080p portable with such low clocks and also odd to use a bigger screen which means more power draw when the chip is so power hungry itself.

But on the other hand Nintendo using super low clocks and Nvidia not delivering on power consumption promises are both very common occurrences.
 
ReyVGM said:
So you think Capcom has Resident Evil Revelations 3 ready for Switch 2 launch just like RER1 was a 3DS launch showcase?

So far most of the Nvidia game leaks have been proven correct. Hope RER3 is one of those.
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I hope Capcom has a Resident Evil spin off in the works. That series is as popular as ever. It is time.
 
Contraversial, but my biggest desire right now is for MicroSD to be incompatible. The world needs to move on from that slow ass standard. Much better things available if someone just pushes one of the new formats, Nintendo can do it if they are willing.
 
When we have specs, I think I'm gonna do a write up of the last six weeks (with some names redacted). I think it would be both useful and interesting to see how the information is flowing around.
 
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Hermii said:
RAM and Process node (which infere clock speeds) are the only mysteries left.
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LoneRanger said:
RAM
GPU and CPU clock speeds
Fabrication node

Assuming Switch NG will have T239 chip with everything in the hack, thats all the info we all need.

We that we can more or less speculate of how capable this device will be vs last or current gen Sony/Microsoft systems.
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Cuzizkool said:
Process node!
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I’m going to be very honest and very blunt (but I’m not trying to be mean!), process node is something you should worry about the least if you know the clock speed of the device. It can be cool to find out but really it’s not really relevant if you know the clock speed. If you know the process node you have an idea of the ceiling, but once you know the clock speeds, you should pretty much forget about the process node because it becomes just an extra factoid.

I mean it from the position that we are as more enthusiastic consumers, if we know clocks you can pretty much go about your day. Node wouldn’t really tell you that much as it narrows it down to a range, but the final clocks are what matter.
kvetcha said:
is this a bit?
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no.

Hermii said:
It wouldn't make economically sense to clock it to oblivion. Narrower and faster would be cheaper.
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i mean I think everyone should just assume switch clocks, and be pleasantly surprised by anything greater than. As a bonus.
 
ShaunSwitch said:
Contraversial, but my biggest desire right now is for MicroSD to be incompatible. The world needs to move on from that slow ass standard. Much better things available if someone just pushes one of the new formats, Nintendo can do it if they are willing.
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It's not that slow and losing a feature is bad. 😆

I doubt any game actually capital N NEEDS faster speeds than MicroSD can provide, but if by some chance they do, at least let us have on board storage we can move things on and off.
 
Dark Cloud said:
Isn't it nice to have a positive leadup to a Nintendo system for once. It helps coming off the back of one of the most successful systems in history and people really just want a better version of Switch.
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Feels good man, let's hope the positive train stay until the announcement!
I just need BC + everything rumored in the last hours and then I'm in.
 
Skittzo said:
The issue with 8nm I thought is that Switch clocks aren't even really feasible.
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Yes… with the caveat that the next device is the exact same size. If they are making it bigger and it has a larger battery and larger cooling, it can theoretically work.

Reminder that it’s been 7 years since the battery in the switch, if it’s a bit bigger to house a denser battery (>5500mAh), it can work out ok… in theory.
 
Onizuka said:
Red Dead Redemption 2 it's a posibility? On Next Switch
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Just like 360/PS3 games were low hanging fruit for porting to Switch, PS4 games will easily port to SNG. Better still is the fact that even in 2023, lots of multiplatform games still support PS4/X1. Other than the limited number of impossible ports to Switch, there is basically a 10 year library of AAA games that never came to Switch that will be easy to port to SNG.
 
Dark Cloud said:
Isn't the possibility of Nintendo having 512GB show how much Nintendo cares about third party? We know their games tend to be bigger than Nintendo's. I know they usually shrink them down too on the Switch when they're ported. When I think of the Call of Duty games and other huge third party games it would show Nintendo is looking out for all of them. It can mean Nintendo has good relation with these companies to bring these games to the Switch 2 already.
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That's just one number. It tells nothing of the characteristics of the 3 types of storage (internal, carts and expandable).

If the internal storage is pretty fast, it could require installation and having to swap games between internal and expandable if available.
In which case, a big internal storage is a must have.
 
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ReyVGM said:
So you think Capcom has Resident Evil Revelations 3 ready for Switch 2 launch just like RER1 was a 3DS launch showcase?

So far most of the Nvidia game leaks have been proven correct. Hope RER3 is one of those.
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Capcom sees RE as a annual entry per FY. FY2024/25 game will likely be RE9.

FY2025/26 is probably something related to 30th anniversary, my guess is RE1 GC Remake.

So unless RER3 is current FY, it is a possibility the proyect was moved from Switch 1 to NG and being retooled into a more ambitious game. Thus its a FY2026/27 game at least.

Regardless, I’m sure Capcom will be year 1 Switch NG with Resident Evil, Street Fighter and Monster Hunter in some capacity as NG “exclusives” (means no Switch 1 version). Of course, I’m excluding collections or stuff (example: new Ace Attorney or Megaman) like also hits Switch 1. Would also be very confident on a DMCV port but considering they didn’t port (yet) DMCIV I have my doubts.
 
Dark Cloud said:
Why? lol. Atlus had SMTV (I know it took like 5 years to release! lol) and Square had announced Octopath Traveler during the Switch's presentation. I can see both of them and Capcom with something to show in a Switch 2 presentation.
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Plus, Switch2 3rd party support will be magnitudes stronger than what the Switch got.
 
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