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majimazio said:


Could Fortnite also make this decision?
It was to be expected that some developers would make such a decision without waiting for [REDACTED].
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This game won't exist in anywhere in ten years. And I highly doubt the latter. Fortnite makes money on every platform. Switch included.
 
Anyone remember this?

At some point, after Drake is announced and if Nintendo makes patents for it public we can further see some new info before the actual full reveal.

You can see that likely at one point the kickstand was in the middle and the shoulder button on Joy-Cons were bigger.

www.gonintendo.com

Nintendo Switch - new patents mention the touchscreen, JoyCons functions and more

From the GoNintendo Archives
www.gonintendo.com www.gonintendo.com
 
Raviolo said:
Sorry if it’s been discussed before, but how feasible is it put rumble as good as the dualsense’s inside something as small as the joycon?
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It's already more or less the same technology, just smaller. If they update the Joy-Con, I could see them updating the rumble motors too.
 
Chun said:
I think Nintendo doing something official that looks to be in favor of no new hardware this year is safer to read into
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Did I miss something? Where they renamed the event from Nintendo Live 2023 to "Nintendo No-New Hardware Spectacular 2023"?
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
www.eurogamer.net

Nintendo NX is a portable console with detachable controllers

Nintendo's upcoming NX will be a portable, handheld console with detachable controllers, a number of sources have confi…
www.eurogamer.net www.eurogamer.net

Significantly more.
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Baloney, man. From your list of 21 unknown things, that article about Switch covers... maybe 1? (Any special features of the device) One (Release date) we already had a pretty good idea on, and another (Launch title) we had a decently good guess in BOTW.
 
Everyone is talking about 2023 and 2024 releases for drake and I'm here wondering if it came out in 2022 but I died before then, famiboards.com has become my own personal hell, doomed to speculate on hardware that will never come for me, but the living are already enjoying it.
 
Hi everyone, I've been on the site for a month now, and I have to say this thread is really fun to read!
Thanks to all ! (Oh and, #Team2023)
 
TSR3 said:
Sure, it's made with red peppers rather than basil
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:0 Cool! 🤩

LukasManak22 said:
Anyone remember this?

At some point, after Drake is announced and if Nintendo makes patents for it public we can further see some new info before the actual full reveal.

You can see that likely at one point the kickstand was in the middle and the shoulder button on Joy-Cons were bigger.

www.gonintendo.com

Nintendo Switch - new patents mention the touchscreen, JoyCons functions and more

From the GoNintendo Archives
www.gonintendo.com www.gonintendo.com
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Wouldn’t surprise if Nintendo makes new Joycons. That way they can sell more variety of hardware.
 
ShaunSwitch said:
Everyone is talking about 2023 and 2024 releases for drake and I'm here wondering if it came out in 2022 but I died before then, famiboards.com has become my own personal hell, doomed to speculate on hardware that will never come for me, but the living are already enjoying it.
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A decade from now, someone will be able to write a Master’s thesis in Sociology about how a group of people created their own personal hell going round and round on theories about unannounced Nintendo hardware. 😭
 
ShaunSwitch said:
Everyone is talking about 2023 and 2024 releases for drake and I'm here wondering if it came out in 2022 but I died before then, famiboards.com has become my own personal hell, doomed to speculate on hardware that will never come for me, but the living are already enjoying it.
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ShaunSwitch said:
Everyone is talking about 2023 and 2024 releases for drake and I'm here wondering if it came out in 2022 but I died before then, famiboards.com has become my own personal hell, doomed to speculate on hardware that will never come for me, but the living are already enjoying it.
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You know there are other threads on this site. They feel almost like heaven compared to this one. No disappointments at all. Ever.
 
(As yet another medium-term lurker-when-I-should-be-working-turned-person with account, I’d like to say I’ve picked up lots of useful meal advice from this thread, so thank you everyone)
 
D36 said:
I think the art book stuff is typical protocol. I was referring more to hardware leaks.
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My bad, I didn’t know they were this protective over stuff that isn’t hard nor software. 😅

But I think they’re protective against certain leaks. The Zelda OLED leaked months in advance
 
ziggyrivers said:
My bad, I didn’t know they were this protective over stuff that isn’t hard nor software. 😅

But I think they’re protective against certain leaks. The Zelda OLED leaked months in advance
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Yeah, they're notorious for taking down even fan projects, it's been a thing for several years.
 
majimazio said:


Could Fortnite also make this decision?
It was to be expected that some developers would make such a decision without waiting for [REDACTED].
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It was set in the stars. the Switch version ended up lacking modes and what not due to hardware restrictions. They did however get the core game on Switch and the ability to run at 60 FPS. This game is by no means large anymore, so the move makes sense.
 
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Dekuman said:
My personal feeling here is this game isn't particularly popular and probably doesn't have enough players on Switch to warrant them conmtinuing support. The need to really optimize for Switch probably was the final nail.

That said, Nintendo really needs to get a move on with new hardware or we could very well see other live service games pull support.



This is the perfect place to show off the new hardware if there's one coming.
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The game got an expansion with new modes, but the Switch was left out due to performance. So it sounds like that was a contributing factor into lowering player base. It's a crossplay title, and for one platform to not have all game modes(TDM for example) means it's destined to fail. Prior to that, they fully supported the Switch version and were very proud of it. Hi Rez also has Paladins on Switch, and it runs well. The Switch version has parity with other versions so it's won't get shut down before others.
 
kvetcha said:
I’m not convinced they left much on the table considering they were selling every unit they could build for nearly all of 2017.
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True. I’m hopeful for Holiday 2023, but March 2024 wouldn’t be that bad, tbh. If the Switch 1’s performance is anything to go by
 
kvetcha said:
I’m not convinced they left much on the table considering they were selling every unit they could build for nearly all of 2017.
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It would be more about software sales than hardware I'd imagine. Early adopters will buy a lot of software of course, but holiday spending would juice those numbers for sure.
 
So my humble reasoning for a late 2023 release is partly fueled by copium and has been ever since their “we don’t have any consoles planned for a 2022 release” statement. For what it’s worth, I agree with the people saying Nintendo Live 2023 will probably have nothing to do with the successor. Somehow there’s evidence of absence and an absence of evidence at the same time. But I can’t quite put my finger on it.
Does any of this make sense?

My seasoning: freeze dried onion bits
I’m always late to these
 
I have always wondered, since these deals are worth so much money and production is difficult, as time passes could that mean that Nintendo's new hardware is stronger and uses better parts or what's the change / upgrade limit when producing new hardware?
 
KanameYuuki said:
I have always wondered, since these deals are worth so much money and production is difficult, as time passes could that mean that Nintendo's new hardware is stronger and uses better parts or what's the change / upgrade limit when producing new hardware?
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I don’t feel like it’s that restrictive as long as it can attain scale economics
 
KanameYuuki said:
I have always wondered, since these deals are worth so much money and production is difficult, as time passes could that mean that Nintendo's new hardware is stronger and uses better parts or what's the change / upgrade limit when producing new hardware?
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The chip is hard to change, and the chip has some controllers embedded into it, so there is a pretty hard limit on what can be upgraded over time. The amount of storage, yes, the amount of RAM, maybe, the kind of screen possibly. But that is the limit.
 
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I think Switch was a good lesson that, if the software's not ready, then pushing the launch back a few months to polish it can be a good choice in the long run. Unless the software they were polishing was 1-2 Switch, in which case maybe it wasn't such a good choice.

Let's say Nintendo were developing [redacted] with a targeted release of Q4 2023, and along the way a spanner (COVID) got thrown in the works, and launch software isn't quite where Nintendo wants it to be in early 2023. The situation is a bit different than it was for Switch. At that stage Nintendo had the 3DS, which had a healthy lineup for Q4 2016 regardless of the Switch launch, and the Wii U, which honestly was barely part of the equation by that stage. Now, though, the Switch, although declining in hardware sales, has a pretty healthy audience for software, and with cross-gen games and backwards compatibility, the Switch and [redacted] lineups are closely intertwined.

If Nintendo had planned a suite of cross-gen titles as part of the launch window of [redacted], then they might be in the unusual position where delaying [redacted] could either mean either a weaker lineup for the Switch in Q4, or a weaker launch lineup for [redacted] when it does launch.

As an example, let's consider that one of Nintendo's planned releases for Q4 2023 is Mario's Pasta Simulator, where players can put all kinds of crazy ingredients on their pasta. This is planned as a cross-gen title, running perfectly fine on Switch, but with 4K graphics and ray tracing on [redacted] so that you can really appreciate the glisten of the cumin as you carefully shake it atop your pasta. Nintendo have to figure out what to do with Mario's Pasta Simulator. If they delay it alongside [redacted], then they're missing out on a big Switch holiday title at a time when Switch software sales are still very strong. If they decide to release it as a Switch title, then they've lost a big launch window title for [redacted]. They can of course still release an update for it with all the fancy [redacted] graphics they had planned, but a patch for an existing game isn't nearly as good a selling point for new hardware as a whole new game.

I do wonder if part of the reason Nintendo have almost nothing announced past July is that they have games which they're just not sure how to announce. If a game is planned as a cross-gen title, then it's best to announce it as such and put as much emphasis on the next gen version as possible (with games like God of War Ragnarok and Horizon Forbidden West, Sony barely even acknowledged the existence of the PS4 versions). Some of those may have to be announced just as Switch games, though, if the alternative is an empty second half of the year. If the launch date of [redacted] is still in flux depending on the development of one or two major launch exclusives, then there are potentially knock-on effects for a lot of other games.
 
burningup said:
My seasoning: freeze dried onion bits
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They sell those where I live 🤔 I have in the fridge, actually

Thraktor said:
I think Switch was a good lesson that, if the software's not ready, then pushing the launch back a few months to polish it can be a good choice in the long run. Unless the software they were polishing was 1-2 Switch, in which case maybe it wasn't such a good choice.

Let's say Nintendo were developing [redacted] with a targeted release of Q4 2023, and along the way a spanner (COVID) got thrown in the works, and launch software isn't quite where Nintendo wants it to be in early 2023. The situation is a bit different than it was for Switch. At that stage Nintendo had the 3DS, which had a healthy lineup for Q4 2016 regardless of the Switch launch, and the Wii U, which honestly was barely part of the equation by that stage. Now, though, the Switch, although declining in hardware sales, has a pretty healthy audience for software, and with cross-gen games and backwards compatibility, the Switch and [redacted] lineups are closely intertwined.

If Nintendo had planned a suite of cross-gen titles as part of the launch window of [redacted], then they might be in the unusual position where delaying [redacted] could either mean either a weaker lineup for the Switch in Q4, or a weaker launch lineup for [redacted] when it does launch.

As an example, let's consider that one of Nintendo's planned releases for Q4 2023 is Mario's Pasta Simulator, where players can put all kinds of crazy ingredients on their pasta. This is planned as a cross-gen title, running perfectly fine on Switch, but with 4K graphics and ray tracing on [redacted] so that you can really appreciate the glisten of the cumin as you carefully shake it atop your pasta. Nintendo have to figure out what to do with Mario's Pasta Simulator. If they delay it alongside [redacted], then they're missing out on a big Switch holiday title at a time when Switch software sales are still very strong. If they decide to release it as a Switch title, then they've lost a big launch window title for [redacted]. They can of course still release an update for it with all the fancy [redacted] graphics they had planned, but a patch for an existing game isn't nearly as good a selling point for new hardware as a whole new game.

I do wonder if part of the reason Nintendo have almost nothing announced past July is that they have games which they're just not sure how to announce. If a game is planned as a cross-gen title, then it's best to announce it as such and put as much emphasis on the next gen version as possible (with games like God of War Ragnarok and Horizon Forbidden West, Sony barely even acknowledged the existence of the PS4 versions). Some of those may have to be announced just as Switch games, though, if the alternative is an empty second half of the year. If the launch date of [redacted] is still in flux depending on the development of one or two major launch exclusives, then there are potentially knock-on effects for a lot of other games.
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Guess it’s a choice between relying on a dying console for almost a year more, miss out on Black Friday and Holidays (with a Holiday 2022 already being underperforming) and launch the successor with better software

Or launch the successor this Holiday with SOME software.
 
ziggyrivers said:
They sell those where I live 🤔 I have in the fridge, actually


Guess it’s a choice between relying on a dying console for almost a year more, miss out on Black Friday and Holidays (with a Holiday 2022 already being underperforming) and launch the successor with better software

Or launch the successor this Holiday with SOME software.
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I vote "some" software since part of the appeal (to me, and to a portion of the market) is playing existing games better. After all, Xbox Series X sold out up to and including the month (long after launch) that it finally got a game that wasn't just enhanced from last gen.
 
I’d imagine they’ll be trying to lock in a full year of meaningful content. Launch window is very important, but the 2017 launch year for Switch was probably equally (or more?) important. There was a great first party game just about every month until December. I know they try to maintain that type of release cadence every year, but 2017 had notably higher profile releases - Zelda, Mario, Splatoon, Xenoblade, Mario Kart.

We know they’ve already exhausted some of that pool, but I’d imagine they’ll still be after something similar. 3D Mario, Zelda DLC, Metroid Prime 4, some new multiplayer title? They can also probably leverage third parties a bit better this time around now that Switch has proven itself, and (hopefully) Drake is sufficient to meet their needs.
 
kimbo99 said:
The game got an expansion with new modes, but the Switch was left out due to performance. So it sounds like that was a contributing factor into lowering player base. It's a crossplay title, and for one platform to not have all game modes(TDM for example) means it's destined to fail. Prior to that, they fully supported the Switch version and were very proud of it. Hi Rez also has Paladins on Switch, and it runs well. The Switch version has parity with other versions so it's won't get shut down before others.
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Thanks for the info/background. Appreciate the insight. Yes, i realize after posting that they also had other games on Switch. Smite also is from them i think.
 
Thraktor said:
This is planned as a cross-gen title, running perfectly fine on Switch, but with 4K graphics and ray tracing on [redacted] so that you can really appreciate the glisten of the cumin as you carefully shake it atop your pasta.
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Has cumin's role in this breakdown of how Nintendo could approach next-gen software cemented its place into Fami/[REDACTED] lore?
 
Concernt said:
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I know the announcement of the 3DS was brought forward due to leaks, but I never knew it's actual launch was delayed. That'll explain the odd launch dates - Nintendo released when ready rather than hold on until the next big consumer festival.
 
Chun said:
In my perspective, the switch was an exception rather than the rule. Most Nintendo Hardware launches around holiday and Switch was supposedly intended to.

I mean they mentioned the scope, abundantly clear there will be no announcements, and I struggle to see why they would announce it this far ahead if there were going to be kiosks with the new model there. THAT would be a selling point and drive excitement/interest in the event. Why Announce this roughly a month before some are expecting the successor to be announced, then soon after say "Oh by the way, you can try it at Nintendo Live that we announced weeks ago and some of you already have tickets for" Idk if its a ticketed event but you get the point.

Seems highly unlikely to have this big fan event in the middle of what some are expecting to be the announcement to release cycle of the successor where that would be the main appeal of an event like this.
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To be fair this is the same Nintendo that arguably started the Direct trend. Could be that with the death of E3 Nintendo would rather just use a September live event to as their in person demo for new hardware.
 
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