Honestly they should just keep the original English translation as-is, it's the best depiction. A straight translation of the original script would sir controversy.
Not entirely true. In the Mario & Luigi remakes, only the Toad townspeople (the ones that just aimlessly walk around and have one line of dialogue) were standardized. More important ones like Toadsworth, Toadbert, Dr. Toadley and his nurse assistant, the Blorbed Toads, and even that one green Toad with the mustache in the opening cutscene were all left intact.
Yes.
If you’ve been around Paper Mario/M&L discussions then people think it is something viable Nintendo would do.
I'm not familiar with the changes, but could this have been more of a cut corner for cost savings versus intentional design choice? "Why do we need to create five models for unimportant NPCs when one will suffice?"
Honestly they should just keep the original English translation as-is, it's the best depiction. A straight translation of the original script would sir controversy.
The Japanese script says Vivan is girl that's "secretly a boy", and it's used as a gag and not character depth. It's pretty inline with Japanese media around that time. The English version just refers to her as a girl straight-up throughout the entire game.
Theoretically it could have. A lot of those Toad sprites are just ripped from Paper Jam (no pun intended)
I was surprised to see how many people were shocked that Nintendo released Paper Mario on the N64 NSO (despite it also being available on the Wii U Virtual Console, a post "Mario commitee" service), I 100% blame Arlo for this constant paranoïa surrounding the IP lol
Most of these redesigns are marginal at best. There are some disagreeable choices but nothing obscene, certainly nothing to be overly concerned about.Theoretically it could have. A lot of those Toad sprites are just ripped from Paper Jam (no pun intended)
However, there was other instances of “character homogenization” in the game, such as the airborne koopas at the beginning of the game losing their flight suits, the big Koopas that block certain paths becoming simply giant normal Koopas instead of fat and portly like they were originally. Plus, the psycho-looking Hammer Bros. in Bowser’s Castle were also replaced with normal ones.
There are other instances too, but these are what I could think of at the top of my head.
There were a few examples where quirky designs were maintained, however. The Superstar Saga-originated quadraped Dry Bones was not touched at all (despite their normal Koopa counterparts now becoming bipideal) and they even kept SS’s very unique interpretation of Boomerang Bros, even renaming them, appropriately, to “Beanerang Bros.”
There’s probably a few things i’m missing, so here’s a graphic that covers a lot of the changes
Poor Geno, they hated his design in particular so much, he was replaced with Invisible Geno! What a tragic fate.
I still till this day get a kick of the hanging pole in the very first area of the game lol
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I dunno, I'm a big TTYD fan and if the remaster looked like this I'd be pretty thrilled. The fact they kept the noose in the center of town would calm my fears that a remaster/remake would neuter the world TTYD made.
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I unironically love this.
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I think this looks perfect
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You're right that TTYD fans are too precious, but you're wrong otherwise, because backtracking is good, and traveling left to right is fun.
I actually would love to see TTYD remade in Color Splash/Origami King’s aesthetics, minus the generic NPC’s of those latter two.
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I wouldn't go as far as to say they gotta cut up the game, but I do think there oughta be new content of some form cuz I already played TTYD alot and I would have no interest in a straight remaster, but I would if it were something akin to the ML remakes/Mario 3D World where the remake also added a side adventure we can hop in and out of.
Why is it going to give me nightmares? It looks amazing.
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Hmm
I'm not a fan of the cardboard on the walls, but it looks fine-ish. My only fear with a remaster like this would be if they started ham-fisting other arts and crafts materials in, like making Hooktail be made of plush or arbitrarily throwing giant spools of thread around in the background.
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Honestly I wouldn’t mind that Hooktail idea at all, as long as it is still Hooktail and not random dragon plush
Yeah, this is the thing that I think a lot of people misunderstand—if there are any character design changes, it would only be for the standard Mario universe characters that appear in the main series games as well, like Toads, Goombas, Koopas, etc.All of those characters you mentioned are unique creations that don't touch upon the Mario universe. Unique Toads, Goombas, Piantas, etc... those are a different case.
From my understanding, the IP oversight team is very strict with Mario characters. For example:
Puni's are characters that only appear in TTYD. They've never appeared in a game prior or since TTYD's release, hence they're unique characters to that game that don't form part of the grander Mario universe (i.e King Olly, Kersti, etc). They're allowed.
Koopa's, however, are part of the Mario universe. Therefore a design such as Koopie Koo is unacceptable. At most you'd get a Koopa with a wig and make-up, if at all
As the post I quoted above explains, it’s generally only the standard Mario universe characters that are subject to these kind of changes. Original characters are fine, as long as they don’t use existing Mario characters as a base and go against their established designs.I wouldn't worry about homogenization, the Bowser's Inside Story remake somehow got permission to add OCs that weren't even in the original
If this remake happens, TTYD will be fine
Honestly. This is what I want
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Do people on Era think that their site is a bastion for leaks? lol
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Getting upset over people not trusting Nintendo is very tiresome behavior.
I mean, I much prefer the storybook aesthetic of the first two games to the arts and crafts/paper outline aesthetic of Sticker Star onward, and the HP/FP UI is a little bland, but this is a fine enough compromise. Rogueport looks like Rogueport, the original characters are preserved, and the more original designs are retained even if they are translated to the standard art style. It wouldn't be my preference, but it's alright.
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He was in both of the Mario & Luigi 3DS remakes. I don't see there being an issue with him making another appearance in a remake.
Honestly that's kinda shocking, they've basically eradicated any unique toad from the series at this point, hell I'm shocked Toadette is even still allowed, but hearing he's still in the M&L remakes is a little reassuring.
3 years of dev time for an upressed port? Don’t think so.
I had been assuming this was being worked on alongside another Paper Mario game, and it wouldn't have much work done on it. But I guess we'll have to see.
This is perhaps the least likely thing to happen but it's also desperately what I want to see happen most. Even storybook cutscenes to flesh out Luigi's story more would be fantastic.Less than 1 year dedicated to porting the game, the rest of the dev time went into fleshing out Luigi's campaign
