The difference though is they said they would have towns months prior. That’s on the fans there for ignoring information. At this point in time, we have like no interviews on this game by comparison and nothing remotely like the Treehouse showings which absolutely showed off why this game was cool and different.
There was a ton of complaints about BOTW 's marketing. For months people were convinced there were no towns or NPCs, that they'd shown everything at E3. Even after the life in the ruins trailer people kept it up, said there's no story, no real towns, just stables and small camps.
Guess I missed a few of these, but regardless I don’t really think any of these really compare to the fact that we have absolutely no idea whatsoever about the general direction of Tears of the Kingdom, nor any direct gameplay footage. If Breath if the Wild had the same marketing campaign as this, nobody would be making those complaints above because there’d be significantly larger eggs to fry.
i would not give you right with the marketed perfectly (the game did the heavy lifting, especially with the previews outlets got and started gushing about it, and then the extremely high scores before it came out).
We know a ton about the general direction. Instead of having a flat world to explore you'll have a largely vertical expanse of sky, ground, and caves to explore. Ganondorf has been resurrected, Link has a new magic arm which can do a bunch of brand new systems driven functions.
A lot of people were worried they wouldn't have towns but also they did say that the part they had shown us was like 3% of the map.
I started browsing forums towards the last few months of Breath of the Wild's marketing and, at least based on that time period, I absolutely feel like its the former rather than the latter. The "no towns crowd" point absolutely feels exaggerated in an attempt to make a point for Tears of the Kingdom. This was not a massive thing and honestly not even a particularly big vocal minority. Breath of the Wild's marketing was impressive through and through, a few people worrying about towns is not a doomsday scenario.
Why should we? What do they offer that’s different from the main overworld? How extensive are they? What greater purpose to they serve? We don’t need answers to every single question, but at the moment we know absolutely nothing about them besides the fact that they exist.
Such as? We’ve seen a couple of quick snippets, but we have yet to fully understand the scope of it. What sort of utility does it have? Are there any drawbacks?
I don’t really care about the story here at all, but even for people who do, we have no guarantee if that even is Ganondorf. Why is he back? What’s his goal? What is he doing to stop us?
I’d like to know exactly what we’re collecting, which is a pretty important thing, because that defines the structure of the game. Is it closer to traditional Zelda, with larger dungeons, or are the main collectibles spread out more evenly like in Breath of the Wild?
Which is fine, but we know so little about the new elements that these elements become more noticeable, and as a result the comparisons to Breath of the Wild become even more obvious.
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Don't want to be that guy but it's not that surprising that they are treating arguably their most anticipated and the biggest game they ever worked on as always "one more thing".
You're allowed to disagree and that's fine. I'm sure I'll be linked random Gamefaqs threads to disprove my take as someone who was there.
I know it makes sense but it's gotten old at this point. What can you do
This is true. There was concern that were no towns but there was not concern over the core conceit of the game like with TotK.
Verticality for one. Figuring out how to explore in a new dimension, being careful not to misstep or else you'll fall back to the earth. We saw in this trailer that Link can rotate portions of the islands in at least two axes.
We've seen a lot actually. We have the reverse time stasis which rewinds an object's momentum, we have the telekinesis which lets him pick up the tire, we have the magic homing arrow which you can see was activated by his arm glowing briefly, it's likely the phasing through the ground will also be tied to the arm.
I'm pretty sure one of Nintendo's accounts confirmed it was ganondorf? Did I make that up? Also he says what he wants in this trailer, he wants his minions to wipe out Hyrule and her allies.
That's something we'll learn before the game releases, I'm confident. Personally it doesn't matter to me what exactly we're collecting.
I think part of the issue might just be that the trailers are so spread out that people have forgotten we've seen so much in them all already.
I guess it’s just a difference of opinion then, because your definition of “so much” is quite a bit different than mine. This feels like one trailer’s worth of information to me, not three, nor does it feel like enough information for a game that’s just three months out.
The game proves that it's interesting by being played, not by its trailer, though.
I kinda feel the exact opposite, the amount and variety of new mechanics, enemies, locations, even concepts that they've shown feels like it would be better off in more trailers each more focused on that particular aspect. Like, a trailer describing the modular vehicle construction, a trailer showcasing ascent to a sky island where you phase through the ground, a trailer showing underground locations and enemies (and maybe Zelda if she's indeed playable), a trailer focusing on the new hand abilities and the green goop, a trailer showing how all the familiar locations in the world have changed (a giant dragon encircling Kakariko village? New massive drill platforms with spotlights? Mazes in the sky?), etc.
a nice sentiment but for $70 I'd like to see a hook before I buy it
Why is that an issue? The whole draw is supposed to be because it’s a direct sequel. I’m kind of at a loss as to what’s expected.
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It would be nice to buy a game on something other than trust.
But this is literally impossible. You always have to trust someone or something before you buy. You have to trust the developer/word of mouth/reviews or whatever before you buy. Unless you're pirating first and paying later, lol.
Not when that trust was earned with/in BotW… If you need more than that, this game may not be for you. Therein is what they are conveying.
That's actually great, though*: We're running out of time for them to keep doing vague teases and not explaining anything, very soon now they're going to have to. I can already feel the marketing machine beginning to kick in now that preorders are live - and that's just going to keep ramping up the closer we get to launch. Within the next 1.5 months or so we'll probably get a real, meaty trailer, and we're also going to be getting gameplay previews and lots more press coverage. It's all coming very soon, just another month or two. Which is nothing compared to how long we've gone between tiny teases before.
They know that though. That's why the marketing is like this, because they know everyone even remotely interested either has played BOTW or knows a lot about BOTW.
As I've pointed out in another thread, compare these trailers to the Mario Odyssey trailer:
lmao knock it off. I can have apprehension about the game without you saying something as condescending as this.
Yes. At this point, BotW had an entire E3 full of content and was the most hyped game at the time. We knew part of what to expect from the game, some mechanics and some objectives.
