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Unless, of course, that number includes a new model
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StarTopic Future Nintendo Hardware & Technology Speculation & Discussion |ST| (New Staff Post, Please read)
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It would have included switch sales for the month of March, but the point is that the Switch was a known quantity for a period of that year of sales so should have had some impact on sales volumes. I would expect that Drake being released much earlier in switches 7th fiscal sales year would hurt OG switch sales more, but if its a premium priced product and Nintendo does in fact provide an option that's compelling and cheaper than the lite using tx1 then it could have the opposite effect. All depends on marketing of both products.
Aether
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Well, they are still having a solid run of games, so there is not such a software drop off.
The adaption rate of software is also better. and the eshop helps them keep customer buying software. so yeah, its not quite the same.
the wish for HD was also higher with general audiences compared to 4k.
the thing is, it is a really risky move. its kind of trying to edge it out as far as they can to maximize profits,If they manage to milk the shit out of it and make a huge margin on hardware due to lower cost of goods instead of artificially killing a successful product by introducing a successor that has an impact on revenue and ROI, they actually are master planners
but with that they risk overextending it, missing the ideal cutoff point and having to battle for 1-2 years to get back into the seat.
Don't know, not the maximum profit but stable and safe long term income seems to be the better move for a company like nintendo?
And its not like there arent methods when the switch 2 releases to monetize the heck out of switch:
make it cheap, low entry point, let the budget conscious spend tons on indies, evergreens and titles that can be cross releases.
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I want to keep seeing 2022 memes in 2024
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who the fuck is that
Saw many people pointing out that the Nintendo leadership is much more conservative since the Furukawa took over. But I mean, the whole board is still the same, only thing that changed is that Furukawa is CEO now.
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It's not that uncommon for CEOs to unlearn from mistakes they commited before. Greed is a hell of a drug.
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Tentacle-tropes
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It’s not the only thing that changed.
- Ko Shiota replaced Genyo Takeda
- Shinya Takahashi replaced Shigeru Miyamoto
- Chris Meledandri added
Eclissi
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I was thinking about that too, but... Bloomberg says that vendors have been warned of plans to ramp up production...
I don't think this can be interpreted as "we are adding a new model with completely different SoC".
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Depends on which vendors they're talking to and how many components the two models will be sharing.
LukasManak22
who the fuck is that
Replacement by Shiota was still done under Kimishima.
Takahashi did not replaced Miyamoto, he replaced him only as a leader of all software. Which was inevitable. Takahashi was member of the board even in Iwata's era and Miyamoto is still member to this day. Only thing that changed are their positions to be more up. (f.e. Takahashi's position was switched to Shibata when he was brought up back to Japan in 2018 and Takahashi is now Senior Managing Executive Officer).
But yeah, Meledandri got added too because of their movie initiative.
But I think the main point I want to take from this is that the people that are here don't want Nintendo to became conservative that much or anything. People often brought up that Miyamoto is not that much into spotlight anymore, which is true but he is still right after Furukawa in terms of position.
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Why can't it? They plan to ramp up production. They don't say "of existing Nintendo Switch models". They "ramped up production" in 2016 and 2017 for the Switch's launch.
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While it is disappointing that we will have to likely wait longer, I can wait. It is a shame that we wont get a better version of Tears of the Kingdom (though I expect it will be ones of the games that gets a remaster when the Switch 2 comes out) I am sure the game will be fantastic and will look forward to a new successor when it comes. Was dying for the switch pro or whatever it was going to called but now that we are at least a year out, I can wait and just look forward to when it is announced, that is going to be really exciting.
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Why would that be likely? Nothing factual has so far suggested a delay. In fact some reputable news sites are reporting production for Nintendo is actually accelerating.
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I don’t think it really matters if it was done by Kimishima as that was another inevitable one
For Nintendo not to be conservative they would have to have a radical change in thinking. Considering Furukawa is a protégé of Iwata & a numbers guy I don’t see that happening. I mean Kimishima is still there as well just not on the board as an Executive Adviser.
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How long do you think Furukawa has been been CEO for? Lol.
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An increased forecast at this stage Is very much like defying the laws of physics. Being mindful that this is Bloomberg reporting and not yet a formal forecast, I would find even a no change forecast to be aggressive, so increasing forrcast is a puzzler.
The received wisdom last couple of years was COVID moved forward demand and declines post covid are expected.
Suffice to say Expecting an up year suggests Nintendo isn't just going to be doing special editions. It could be increasing orders to hide a Switch successor, or be more benign like a new revision or revisions , a new product offering in a new configuration, and price cuts.
The received wisdom last couple of years was COVID moved forward demand and declines post covid are expected.
Suffice to say Expecting an up year suggests Nintendo isn't just going to be doing special editions. It could be increasing orders to hide a Switch successor, or be more benign like a new revision or revisions , a new product offering in a new configuration, and price cuts.
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Nintendo raises Switch output to record 30m on stay-at-home demand
Boom in paid subscriptions helps to drive gaming device's success
asia.nikkei.com
May 6, 2021
Specific != correct
Vash
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so seems there is two camps here:
Camp 1. This thing isn't coming out until 2024/2025 and Nintendo wanting to sell 20 mil this year confirms that
Camp 2. This thing is coming this year and Nintendo wanting to sell 20 mil this year confirms that
Im Camp 2. Lets go bayyyybayyyyy
Camp 1. This thing isn't coming out until 2024/2025 and Nintendo wanting to sell 20 mil this year confirms that
Camp 2. This thing is coming this year and Nintendo wanting to sell 20 mil this year confirms that
Im Camp 2. Lets go bayyyybayyyyy
who is in cloud 9? both of them?
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Camp 1 is cringe and realistic, while Camp 2 is based and dumb. Somehow, I'm cringe (no hardware this year) and dumb (#Team2027)
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Neither of them have any idea what's going on.
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too much time spent looking for answers on youtube is all that is going on
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Option 3 big plans for Switch. Price cuts. New revision perhaps with a new form factor
Option 4 reporting error.
I'm open to all options but on the surface increasing production defies all logic and there has to be a reason, even if its something we don't think will work. Saying management is insane or not smart is probably not a reason for me.
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Camp 2 makes more logical sense.
No need for insults, to yourself or anyone. Camp 2 as they put it is definitely the more logical choice, because Camp 1 has to suppose Nintendo will increase demand year on year with no solid reasoning, while Camp 2 has a simple answer backed by facts and factory leaks alike: The increased production is to launch a new console which can produce its own demand.
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Iwata had nothing to do with the choice of Furukawa. If he knows anyone well, it's Shibata, with whom he worked for a long time in Europe, and indeed his biggest managerial decision to date has been to promote Shibata strongly.
Furukawa was appointed in order to reassure the markets and the company with a more coporate and conventional profile. It was this same internal desire for a reassuring consensus that led to the appointment of Kimishima to ensure the transition.
The choice is consensual because we're talking about someone who has spent his entire career at Nintendo and knows the internal culture, but even so it's first and foremost someone who studied Political Science,who knows marketing well and will be open to all sorts of diversifications, who has links with the Polemon Company, and who for the moment has done nothing more than let people work where they were before his arrival, because everything was working well.
We'll see when things aren't going so well how "conservative" he is. My fear is that he won't be conservative enough, i.e. that he won't be able to go against the stupid whims of the financial community like "common, give up your own hardware and make mobile games".
Those who absolutely want Nintendo to be "less conservative" partly forget that this would basically mean denying the corporate culture that makes it special for the best.
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The trick to believing is to make sure you're not emotionally invested enough that you're actually hurt when it doesn't happen.
Just remember it's all for fun.
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this is probably wrong. Furukawa may not have taken his place immediately but like Tim Cook Furukawa was being groomed as a successor while Iwata was sick. Depressingly, the interim probably had to do with Iwata's cancer being so aggressive when it returned.
...now I'm sad
Vash
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yeah tbh im just using this hardware speculation as a way to make the days til TotK go faster. That is MY big thing this year. Even if a switch 2 launched this year it still wouldnt over shadow TotK for me
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Skittzo is right. While I'm trying my best to work with the facts and leaks we have to try and make sense of it, I'm just a stranger on the internet.
With that said, this is the situation that makes the most sense to me.
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Can someone give a timeline or explanation for Switch T239 being pushed to early 2024/early 2025, that would lead folks to accept this speculated timeframe at face value. Again, neither yesterday's podcast nor Digital Foundry's article try to reconcile it with NVN2 or Linux data. One explanation could be that the manufacturing would be for some other T239 device slated for this year which hasn't been announced yet. Is that it ?
I'm gonna keep poking and prodding at this.
I'm gonna keep poking and prodding at this.
boodream
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Nintendo, Scoring Roaring Business, to Switch It Up With a New CEO
Nintendo Chief Executive Tatsumi Kimishima said he would step down in June in favor of a younger executive, calling it the right time after the Switch game machine introduced last year turned into a hit.
www.wsj.com
Kimishima himself said he thought of Furukawa when he was leading the transition. And their profiles are relatively similar, by the way.
As you say, Iwata unfortunately had other sad things to care about anyway.
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who the fuck is that
Reggie refers to Furukawa as a "Iwata's right hand man at the time". It's pretty telling to me that they had no plan what so ever on Iwata's successor, since his cancer came back in around of March 2015. And after that it sadly got pretty quick. So I don't believe Furukawa was after positioned as future CEO, that was done when Kimishima took over since they knew he is only temporary.
Anyway, way of topic here. Just wanted to point out my two cents.
Vash
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The talk about Miyamoto before made me think about when hes done with Nintendo. The man is basically the reason Nintendo is what they are. Creating, Zelda, Mario, DK, while having important roles in Pokemon red and blue and metroid prime. ALSO NINTENDOGS.
There are alot of accomplished people in the video game space but i think he is by far the most important.
There are alot of accomplished people in the video game space but i think he is by far the most important.
ah youtube, great for misinformation
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That device probably would have been announced at CES, which is why 2023 remains an open question for a new Nintendo system.
Serif
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Precisely.
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Analysis of the facts is not copium.
The fact is there has been continuous work on the T239 on the public Linux kernel. That it was leaked that T239 is for "Hovi", and that "Hovi" is Nintendo.
We can't extract a specific time from that, but we can talk probabilities.
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I'm sure this has been asked before, and is a tiring question, but I don't follow the thread super closely and am not super tech knowledgeable, but how 100% sure are we that the T239 is the chip they're using? I know the whole NVN2 thing ties it to Nintendo because the Switch is NVN, but is there anything other than that? Like is it not possible they're using something we know nothing about that wasn't leaked?
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Possible? Sure. Likely? No.
This chip, according to the leaks, was designed in consultation with Nintendo, then, according to Linux commits, produced and subsequently tested extensively.
Why would they go into fabrication with a chip FOR Nintendo if Nintendo chose not to use it?
Tentacle-tropes
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By all accounts Furukawa was being groomed as Iwata’s heir apparent much like Yamauchi did with Iwata. Iwata’s untimely death resulted in the board selecting Kimishima as a steadying hand before handing the reigns over. So no it was not just because they wanted to reassure the markets or have a more corporate profile.
If you believe him, Furukawa is very much influenced still by Iwata & Yamauchi
Furukawa reflects on Iwata and Yamauchi, his approach to leading Nintendo
Nintendo president Shuntaro Furukawa recently sat down with Nikkei to discuss his approach to leading the company through the current Switch era, as well as what influences past presidents like Satoru Iwata and Hiroshi Yamauchi had on him. He acknowledges that Iwata’s style is not something...
nintendoeverything.com
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