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Rumour Nintendo might not have a major Switch title after Zelda as they prepare to move on to new hardware

Going to be a long while before we see a new 3D Zelda launch on Switch 2. Like 2028/29 but at least it will look great. Hopefully we get OoT/MM mask remakes or something before then, although you can almost guarantee a 4K TotK remaster.

Zelda has been the springboard for the success of Wii and Switch in many ways so hopefully Nintendo launch Switch 2 with a 3D Mario which would be a first for Nintendo since Super Mario 64 with the N64 in 1996.
 
i wonder how many amazing games could have retro games already released without Nintendo tying their hands. like seriously stop it 😭

e: in my opinion Mario Kart X will be the launch title for nextgen console followed by new donkey kong game
 
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I'm pretty sure "insiders" most frequently than not just make educated guesses like that and make it look like they have some kind of info we don't.

I remember both 2021 and 2022 were supposed to be years where Nintendo would finally open the floodgates and release several big games they were sitting on and nothing big like that happened. Now it's the contrary and the Switch will be starved.

I'm kinda done discussing rumors like that, honestly. I can believe people can scoop up the ballpark of when a direct is coming or one or two games that are being made but I'm kinda done giving any serious attention to leakers from now on.
 
totofogo said:
bad news for anyone who thinks Pikmin is huge

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Offtopic and late to the party: The Wii is still the best looking home console to me. Especially when used with the stand
 
I count FE (I know it comes before but I'm sure it "doesn't count" for most) and Pikmin as major releases. Not everything will sell 10+ million.
 
I don't think Nintendo needs to be nervous about moving on to the next generation. They really need to completely mess it up for to be another bomb like Wii U. I do think that if they skip a mid gen refresh, they need to bring something new to the table but they don't need to go too far off from the Switch concept and just hit hard the first few years with Mario Kart, Mario, Mario Party and Animal Crossing and Smash and they'll be fine. Also they can do next gen upgrades early on for stuff like Splatoon and Zelda to get people in sooner. They have a lot of big games. An endless supply of it really.
 
I mean I don't think they were ever going to do 2017 twice as much as some people believed they would regularly launch a 3D Zelda and a 3D Mario in the same year when they weren't trying to panickedly resuscitate their console business and make sure Switch had a huge launch year. 3D Zelda was always going to be THE Nintendo Game for 2023 so yeah, the other stuff will be smaller and the next game of that scale may not arrive til Holiday 2024/Switch 2 launch which would be 9 months post Zelda at the earliest most likely... which seems to fit with their "rumor"
 
Anything is possible with Nintendo. But i doubt they will let the Switch software die like this when they will end up at around 135 million console sold by the start of 2024. Best case would be to make games for both consoles. Of course we won't have a new MK and Animal crossing on Switch. But i feel like we all knew that already. MP4 will be on both are exclusive to the new system. That might be why they made a MP1 remaster to at least give the audience something to wait. Only time will tell honestly but with their fear of the new system not picking up (3DS being supported years after the Switch was out), i think they might go to route MS and Sony chose with their new generation and make big games for both generations. I doubt the next Mario game couldn't run on Switch.
 
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Another thing worth noting is that it takes a lot less to debunk this type of leak. You would need to definitively know that none of Nintendo's "big" games in development are slated for 2023, whereas with something like "A new Donkey Kong is coming soon" or whatever, you only need to have info on that one game.

All it takes is for a single game to slip under the radar for the whole rumor to be a complete bust here.
 
Leo said:
I'm pretty sure "insiders" most frequently than not just make educated guesses like that and make it look like they have some kind of info we don't.

I remember both 2021 and 2022 were supposed to be years where Nintendo would finally open the floodgates and release several big games they were sitting on and nothing big like that happened. Now it's the contrary and the Switch will be starved.

I'm kinda done discussing rumors like that, honestly. I can believe people can scoop up the ballpark of when a direct is coming or one or two games that are being made but I'm kinda done giving any serious attention to leakers from now on.
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Yeah remember the “Nintendo are sitting on so many finished games that it’s tough for third parties to know where to release anything”?
 
Leo said:
I'm pretty sure "insiders" most frequently than not just make educated guesses like that and make it look like they have some kind of info we don't.

I remember both 2021 and 2022 were supposed to be years where Nintendo would finally open the floodgates and release several big games they were sitting on and nothing big like that happened. Now it's the contrary and the Switch will be starved.

I'm kinda done discussing rumors like that, honestly. I can believe people can scoop up the ballpark of when a direct is coming or one or two games that are being made but I'm kinda done giving any serious attention to leakers from now on.
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I don't even want to make assumptions about their veracity or intentions (e.g. what if that Pro really did get canned and destroy their schedule?) but I thoroughly agree that the reality on our end says DO NOT WASTE ENERGY ON RUMORS

unless you find them fun. the past three years have made me realize I do not.
 
I'm not @ anyone, but a very reliable source said last fall that a new DK game is in development, and it was a matter of when it would be announced, if in the September Direct or in early 2023, this conflict with what Dring is saying about DK, so I wonder where the truth lies. a year with FE, Zelda, DK, Bayonetta spin off and Pikmin for a console entering in its seventh year would be Rad. let's wait and see, in terms of news early 2023 should be pretty interesting to follow.
 
I am tired of people guessing what Nintendo is going to do, being wrong, and then replacing their wrong guesses with "well see... plans changed sooo... wellllllllll..."
I get that social media clicks are literally how they make their money on advertisers and stuff, but it just makes me tune out from any online discourse that isn't a big bad leak or official announcements
 
This whole thing seems kind of vague and open to personal interpretation, especially considering different ideas of what constitutes a "major" game.

I haven't followed the hardware thread much so I don't really know what to expect with that. Feels too easy to get burned if I look into that stuff too much.
 
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For funsies, here's a slightly beer-inspired hypothesis of what Nintendo's next few years might look:

2023: TOTK is the Switch's last big launch (I mean in terms of number of units sold). The rest of the year is bulked out with Pikmin 4, maybe something Mario related to tie into the movie, and a load of remasters/remakes of old games, predominantly single player ones. Rumours begin to swirl their new console is coming, which Nintendo begin to acknowledge. Nintendo cut the price of the base Switch to give it one last big Christmas to compensate for these rumblings, before a very late reveal of Switch 2 before Christmas (Game Awards maybe?)
2024: Switch 2 launches in March before financial year end. Metroid Prime 4 is the big launch game, while at the same time multiple updates are issued to 'improve' already launched games such as TOTK and Splatoon 3. A new Mario Platformer or equivilent is the big Christmas game, but any games that are released are largely cross gen with Switch 1.
2025: Cross gen compatible games with Switch 1 begin to be phased out as Switch 2 builds on its installbase. Nintendo's big games for this year are Mario Kart 9 and Animal Crossing, and GameFreak (knowing them) will likely release Pokemon Gen 10 this year as well. To cap things off, a new Smash is revealed to be in development.
2026 and beyond: Smash launches 2026, and a new Switch 2 exclusive Zelda is launched the year after. Probably slot Splatoon 4, Xenoblade 4 and many Fire Emblems in there somewhere as well.
 
Magic-Man said:
Pikmin 4 isn't really a big title. Not on the level of Nintendo's bigger IP's at least.
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I'm guessing it takes a pretty good amount of internal resources to develop, though. That's the only significant "big" that matters in this context.
 
Dolce said:
I'm guessing it takes a pretty good amount of internal resources to develop, though. That's the only significant "big" that matters in this context.
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No? The people behind these tweets already said Pikmin doesn't count as big to them.
 
Magic-Man said:
No? The people behind these tweets already said Pikmin doesn't count as big to them.
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But what matters to us as Nintendo fans? If they're still releasing games like Pikmin 4 and such, is that really some big difference? TOTK in terms of hype is Nintendo's biggest sequel, and it has what is likely their largest development team. Everything else is going to be smaller in comparison.

Also using this logic, Metroid Prime 4 shouldn't be big to them either.
 
Galgavias said:
For funsies, here's a slightly beer-inspired hypothesis of what Nintendo's next few years might look:

2023: TOTK is the Switch's last big launch (I mean in terms of number of units sold). The rest of the year is bulked out with Pikmin 4, maybe something Mario related to tie into the movie, and a load of remasters/remakes of old games, predominantly single player ones. Rumours begin to swirl their new console is coming, which Nintendo begin to acknowledge. Nintendo cut the price of the base Switch to give it one last big Christmas to compensate for these rumblings, before a very late reveal of Switch 2 before Christmas (Game Awards maybe?)
2024: Switch 2 launches in March before financial year end. Metroid Prime 4 is the big launch game, while at the same time multiple updates are issued to 'improve' already launched games such as TOTK and Splatoon 3. A new Mario Platformer or equivilent is the big Christmas game, but any games that are released are largely cross gen with Switch 1.
2025: Cross gen compatible games with Switch 1 begin to be phased out as Switch 2 builds on its installbase. Nintendo's big games for this year are Mario Kart 9 and Animal Crossing, and GameFreak (knowing them) will likely release Pokemon Gen 10 this year as well. To cap things off, a new Smash is revealed to be in development.
2026 and beyond: Smash launches 2026, and a new Switch 2 exclusive Zelda is launched the year after. Probably slot Splatoon 4, Xenoblade 4 and many Fire Emblems in there somewhere as well.
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Prime 4 would work as a technical showcase of Switch 2, but:
a) it's not going to be exclusive. Nintendo has reiterated multiple times the game is still in development for Switch; if it releases concurrently with Switch 2, it will be cross-gen;
b) it's not a game that sells consoles. Nobody outside the hardcore Nintendo fan circle cares about Metroid. They need another game to appeal most of the audience.

At this point, Mario 3D as a launch game seems likely.
 
Nintendo rumors are fake 95% of the time so I’m not really gonna entertain this. Unless we’re all still expecting Star Fox Grand Prix, Pokemon Stars, Metroid Prime Trilogy HD, new Donkey Kong by the Mario team, Mario Kart 9, and Metroid Prime Remake?
 
Eh, doesn't mean a whole lot to me. What people enjoy is subjective. Personally, with Zelda, Pokemon/Splatoon DLC, and the Bayonetta game, I'm happy if that's all I end up playing next year. I'm sure there'll be a few more surprises though.
 
Could be true, and surely plausible if hardware isn't coming till 2024, but it sounds like the typical guesswork and theory crafting that Nintendo insiders get into based on their limited access to information.
 
Bobdapeach said:
Eh, doesn't mean a whole lot to me. What people enjoy is subjective. Personally, with Zelda, Pokemon/Splatoon DLC, and the Bayonetta game, I'm happy if that's all I end up playing next year. I'm sure there'll be a few more surprises though.
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My favorite games tend to not be the biggest AAA releases anyway. Like, two of my favorite games released this year were Grounded and Pentiment, neither of which were full-priced AAA releases.
 
The way the internet is carrying on you'd think they rebooted TOTK for the Wii.

I'll never understand people acting like 900p or 30fps are some kind of physical torture or that games can't be great if they don't look like God of War Ragnarok.
 
curl-6 said:
The way the internet is carrying on you'd think they rebooted TOTK for the Wii.

I'll never understand people acting like 900p or 30fps are some kind of physical torture or that games can't be great if they don't look like God of War Ragnarok.
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Nobody is asking for Ragnarok, no need to downplay the wants of others. If you want an honest answer, the torture is in pretending an unstable frame rate and other concessions don’t matter.
 
curl-6 said:
The way the internet is carrying on you'd think they rebooted TOTK for the Wii.

I'll never understand people acting like 900p or 30fps are some kind of physical torture or that games can't be great if they don't look like God of War Ragnarok.
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As I'm playing BOTW now, the thing I notice is that while there is some room for graphical enhancement such as reducing pop-in or frame rate dips (though neither is as pervasive as I remember), adding more pixels or even frames isn't really going to help make it look better.

The artstyle has an inherent softness to it so having those extra pixels is really just diminishing returns.
 
Glom said:
As I'm playing BOTW now, the thing I notice is that while there is some room for graphical enhancement such as reducing pop-in or frame rate dips (though neither is as pervasive as I remember), adding more pixels or even frames isn't really going to help make it look better.

The artstyle has an inherent softness to it so having those extra pixels is really just diminishing returns.
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There’s a wealth of examples of Breath of the Wild emulated in 4K/60 and it makes a massive difference. The art style scales incredibly well. I’d replay the original with these improvements in its entirety if they’d pulled it off prior to the TotK launch.
 
Magic-Man said:
Why are we acting like Nintendo insiders don't get stuff wrong sometimes? Literally every major insider has a rumor that didn't come true, whether that be Nate or Emily or King Zell or Jeff Grubb.
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To be honest this was a very stupid tweet. You don't say you're 100% sure of something if it's not going to happen. He could have used a more careful wording.
 
I mean Switch successor will launch in the end of 2023 or at the latest end of 2024 so naturally the obviously the next big games will be made for that device.
 
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Gingerbread Man said:
Prime 4 would work as a technical showcase of Switch 2, but:
a) it's not going to be exclusive. Nintendo has reiterated multiple times the game is still in development for Switch; if it releases concurrently with Switch 2, it will be cross-gen;
b) it's not a game that sells consoles. Nobody outside the hardcore Nintendo fan circle cares about Metroid. They need another game to appeal most of the audience.

At this point, Mario 3D as a launch game seems likely.
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Oh yeah I would expect Prime 4 to be cross gen. If Switch 2 has BC - which I see no reason why it won't have unless Nintendo are stupid - then I'd expect most first party games to be cross gen for at least the first year or so.

As for your selling point, I actually think it would fit the bill just fine. It's just the kind of game that would appeal to early adopters, and they can save the 3D Mario or whatever for its first Christmas, after the initial launch supply has been sold through. Don't forget Sony launched the PS5 not with Horizon or God of War, but with a Demons Souls remaster. As long as Nintendo can provide a solid first year lineup for Switch 2 to excite people beyond its launch, I think Metroid Prime 4 would be a good candidate to excite those hardcore fans buying a new console at midnight.
 
takriel said:
To be honest this was a very stupid tweet. You don't say you're 100% sure of something if it's not going to happen. He could have used a more careful wording.
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I'm mostly annoyed they are almost never clear whether they are sharing actual info or just speculating.
Like in 2021, they were saying that TP and WW were definitely coming on Switch for the Zelda anniversary. People assumed they had some info. But it was just speculation in then end: "we had a Mario anniversary and All-stars 3D collection so we expected the same for Zelda"
 
I'd guess Dring is referring to "big" games as in 20 million sellers.

Joke's on him though, when Tomodachi Life: Get a Life! launches spring 2024 and sells an insane 50m. 🙃

Also biennial Pokémon and Mario Party aren't leaving Switch anytime soon...
 
kimbo99 said:
No date for MP4 and Zelda confirmed for May. However to counter that, we need to first see the February direct and then also the end of quarter investors meeting. To be devil's advocate, Metroid Dread was announced and launched within 6 months. Not the "biggest" or most "significant" title, but it speaks more of how Nintendo can announce games out of left field.


At the end of the day, I still stand on Switch 2 for 2024.
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It's fine, Metroid is a B-tier franchise so it doesn't count
 
Would a FE Engage Warriors game count as Major Title
 
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Are Wind Waker HD and Twilight Princess HD major titles according to Andy Robinson from VGC? I suggest all of us Nintendo fans be patient and sit tight.
 
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I believe in a new game from the Odyssey team for the Switch. Maybe Mario Kart 10 will be exclusive to the next-gen (and even than I'm not so sure). I wouldn't me surprise if we see ARMS 2 (Switch) before MK10 (if that happens, then I'll be confident with MK10 being exclusive)
 
I really doubt this given Nintendo still needs to support the console through 2024 it seems and also the source of this claim isn't exactly a hyper reliable one anyway.
 
Major is such a relative term this is a bit of a nothing burger. But shrug time will tell and what’s big to some is small to others
 
Mandos said:
Major is such a relative term this is a bit of a nothing burger. But shrug time will tell and what’s big to some is small to others
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On top of

1) Only NPD? No second parties or Monolith and such I don't believe
2) Being compared to Zelda, where the only competition is... Mario Kart and 2D/3D Mario?

cause like, we're probably going to have a Pokemon game that's still on the Switch.
 
The definition of big Nintendo Titles is probably a bit biased, but I could see this being true. Usually the stuff that sounds bad turns out to be true.
 
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