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StarTopic Nintendo General Discussion |ST 13 Oct 2022| Our First Famiversary!

Which of the following October games will you be buying?

  • Persona 5 Royal

    Votes: 117 37.7%
  • Bayonetta 3

    Votes: 181 58.4%
  • Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope

    Votes: 122 39.4%
  • NieR:Automata The End Of YoRHa Edition

    Votes: 123 39.7%
  • None of the above

    Votes: 48 15.5%

  • Total voters
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We know Prime Remastered exists since it’s the same source that 100% nailed Fire Emblem Engage. There’s only a few general possibilities in regards to its release timing:

Timeline A is it comes out this year. I’m rolling with this one. It’ll get announced any time between now and the anniversary for a November or December release. I currently think we hear about it within the next two weeks and it comes out in November as the non-Pokemon Holiday game. While it did get Treehouse coverage, I don’t think Nintendo considers Harvestella the non-Pokemon Holiday game for them.

Timeline B it fills a gap early next year. March and April are both empty right now so Nintendo may want to space out their games. This is reasonably plausible though I do think we’ll get a Mario game in this period before the movie and that’s enough until Zelda where they won’t have to hit a panic button to delay Prime Remastered.

Timeline C it’s the Drake launch title. I don’t personally believe this theory since I don’t think you lead the gen 2 Switch with a GameCube remaster. Apparently this game looks good (it always did), but I never got the vibe from the rumors the remaster was extra stunning where it was a tech showcase.

Timeline D is the worst timeline where Prime 4 is like holiday 2024 or something so they save Prime Remaster until we are a year out. I think Prime 4 is the 2023 holiday title, but we know nothing about it so it is only a gut feeling. This is plausible, but I choose not to believe this.

I think if it comes out this year, it'll be early December. I don't think they'd want to release it too close to Pokémon. But your scenario B does feel the most plausible to me right now.
 
It's wild you say this. I was thinking of exactly that last night, lol. 😅 The Prime games officially becoming their own, divergent timeline, I mean. In some sense, I'd understand if they went that route, especially considering it would free them from the creative shackles of all these stories eventually having to lead into the events of Metroid 2.

I think one of the wilder, more out there mindfucks they could potentially pull out of their back pockets is if somehow, the planetary impact caused by one of the Leviathans from Phaaze already split the timeline prior to the events of Prime 1, and we've been playing as a Samus on a different path, the whole time. Aether's Leviathan famously split the planet into two parallel dimensions (which is weirdly paranormal for Metroid, even despite the ghosts in Super and Prime 1), so the foreshadowing for such a revelation will have already been present.

On the other hand, an aspect of Metroid I really appreciate is how straightforward its storyline has historically been. It's the polar opposite of Zelda, in that regard, as there's never been any convoluted timeline hijinks complicating matters more than necessary.

I think if the games ultimately remained in the same position of leading into Metroid 2, that certainly wouldn't be the worst thing. The Prime subseries is interesting from a narrative standpoint, because it recontextualizes Samus's mission to SR388. It wasn't just what the Pirates did on Zebes that immediately lead to the Federation seeking to eradicate an entire species, but rather, a series of compounding incidents, and various crises, that inevitably lead to that point. It makes it so that killing the Metroids on their homeworld was a last resort. I think that'd be in line with what we know of Samus's character. Personally, I think she'd only do something like that if she knew it was the only option left.
Yeah, it wouldn't be the worst thing. But like you said, I do think that at some point, Tanabe and Retro are going to desire a bit more in the way of narrative freedom. Especially since, as of yet, it's always been a bit of an uneven yolk when it comes to how the Prime games are beholden to the main series' timeline as far as their placement, but Sakamoto and co. can opt to barely acknowledge the events of the Prime line. To the point that even Ridley's surprise appearance at the end of Samus Returns came off more to me as saying "Alright, those games DID happen, happy? Moving on!" :LOL:

The other thing, and I've touched on this briefly before, is that some organizations, especially the Space Pirates, themselves, come off quite differently in the Prime games, compared to how they're portrayed in the main series. In the main series (and the Zero Mission manga), they come off as a cabal that was more a grand nuisance to the Federation that was raiding ships and colonies (granted, they still ruined Samus's life when they upended her peaceful childhood!). That's why Mother Brain asserting control, assuming leadership and giving them a base of operations on Zebes was a big deal, because now we had an organized outfit, which then proceeded to make things significantly WORSE once she directed them to steal the Metroids that the Federation had acquired from SR388. They had officially graduated to something that could threaten galactic peace.

Meanwhile, Prime basically suggests that these bad boys are not only a highly organized military that had already taken over several worlds, have/had apparently several "home worlds", a "Science Team" that basically is as cruel and efficient as the Umbrella Corporation, and a "High Command" that remains nebulous regarding whether the leaders that we know about (ex. Mother, Ridley, Kraid, etc.) are a part of it, or a separate ruling body. In short, an organization that effectively established themselves as a threat to galactic peace long before the events of the original Metroid, and worthy of the spot of being the Federation's main rivals. (And for the sake of simplicity, we're just going to leave out the likes of the various other races that Prime introduced that

Again, these types of inconsistencies and others could all be explained away with Prime being the result of a split timeline of some sort, which is why I dig your bolded theory, too! And I don't think it would be all that confusing, as long as it's eventually clearly communicated (either through in-game lore, or recollections narrated perhaps by Samus, Sylux or some other party) that "things are different here". Audiences that saw Star Trek '09 got the gist that it and the soon established "Kelvin Timeline" was something different, and not just a reboot, pretty quickly, after all.
 
I am going to happily devour all that hot new Metroid lore we're gonna see

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Now you've got me wondering if people on a forum somewhere debate Winnie the Pooh lore.
 
Finished The Last of Us Part 2 again, replayed it after Part 1. Still great game. Not great pacing tho.
I do need some new Nintendo adventure now, I feel. I do Splatoon a lot but it is more of a game I regularly play a bit of, I want another nice big Nintendo adventure alongside it.
Rabbids will be great but it is rudely not here yet
 
Not Brazilian, of course, but just from voting behaviour perspective it is caeteris paribus very unlikely that Bolsonaro picks up >5.2% from the 8.4% that didn't vote for either candidate in the run-off. That would require a 62% of a demographic that wanted someone else to replace him preferring him to his main opponent, which would be a 144% of his support rate total. Nothing's impossible of course, but...

Edit: Adding to this, Lula needs 1.6% to a clear majority and about 4% of the 8.3% went to left-leaning parties.
Yeah I get the math but that's not necessarily how run-offs work. Bolsonaro voters might be more motivated and have a bigger turn-out. Tebet and Gomes voters may not show up for Lula. Statistically it obviously seems likely Lula will win, but additional factors (e.g. Bolsonaro's performance in the run-off vs the general last election cycle) are also relevant
 
The initial North American one. Unless they invent time travel powers and rewrite history in 2023 for the world’s most unfathomable marketing stunt.
I still think it’s more likely that either:
A. They do nothing at all because it’s Nintendo and Metroid
B. They do the anniversary announcement keyed to the JP date in Feb 2023 because NoJ dictates everything the company does
 
Finished The Last of Us Part 2 again, replayed it after Part 1. Still great game. Not great pacing tho.
I do get, and mostly agree with, the pacing criticism, but I genuinely couldn't tell you which parts of the game I would cut. I suppose there's one or two more encounters than necessary on Day One or Two. ||Abbie's Day One is generally a bit of a drag||, but I think this is actually kind of necessary to (a) add to the tonal whiplash it's clearly going for and (b) develop the characters in that section enough so that later moments hit properly.
 
I do get, and mostly agree with, the pacing criticism, but I genuinely couldn't tell you which parts of the game I would cut. I suppose there's one or two more encounters than necessary on Day One or Two. ||Abbie's Day One is generally a bit of a drag||, but I think this is actually kind of necessary to (a) add to the tonal whiplash it's clearly going for and (b) develop the characters in that section enough so that later moments hit properly.
Yeah, like, I do not think there is anything specific I'd need to 'cut' to improve the pacing.
I think, for me, it is mostly just the back and forth in time skips, all over the place. The individual parts are mostly great, but I do not care much for the actual jumping.
But, that's just me. Still fantastic game overall
 
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B. They do the anniversary announcement keyed to the JP date in Feb 2023 because NoJ dictates everything the company does
The other alternative is that they simply choose whichever anniversary is convenient for them. If a JP anniversary suits their release schedule better, they'll do that and come up with the rationalization later
 
Yeah I get the math but that's not necessarily how run-offs work. Bolsonaro voters might be more motivated and have a bigger turn-out. Tebet and Gomes voters may not show up for Lula. Statistically it obviously seems likely Lula will win, but additional factors (e.g. Bolsonaro's performance in the run-off vs the general last election cycle) are also relevant

Of course. I just meant that the margins should be large enough for a win for Lula. Maybe not comfortable but very probably enough.
 
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Any good recent horror recommendations that are on streaming? Every October I try to find something as good as Haunting of Hill House, and am usually disappointed.
 
Lately Sony has a tendency to take some really cool concepts and realizing them in a way that is directly opposed to what I want from them.

It's really desperate and pathetic that they're out to get to me in this way tbh.
 
Any good recent horror recommendations that are on streaming? Every October I try to find something as good as Haunting of Hill House, and am usually disappointed.
Shows or movies? For shows, have you checked out Mike Flanagan's other stuff? The Haunting of Bly Manor wasn't as good but Midnight Mass was excellent

For movies, I'd recommend X. Pearl should also stream soon enough, as should Barbarian (which you have to watch)
 
Yeah I get the math but that's not necessarily how run-offs work. Bolsonaro voters might be more motivated and have a bigger turn-out. Tebet and Gomes voters may not show up for Lula. Statistically it obviously seems likely Lula will win, but additional factors (e.g. Bolsonaro's performance in the run-off vs the general last election cycle) are also relevant
As a Brazilian, I do not believe Bolsonaro will win, Lula had on of the biggest vote numbers of a first turn in our fragile and young democratic history. Is it impossible to Lula lose? Not at all, the current president has the system and it's illegally using it to campaign since 2019, yet his path to winning is still the toughest.
What really made me mad yesterday was the Senate and State governor's elections. That's where a lot of shit happened.
 
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Lately Sony has a tendency to take some really cool concepts and realizing them in a way that is directly opposed to what I want from them.
Are you talking about Horizon?

Any good recent horror recommendations that are on streaming? Every October I try to find something as good as Haunting of Hill House, and am usually disappointed.
I’d love to know, too. Hill House was so good. Even my girlfriend got hooked and she’s a giant wimp when it comes to ghost stories.

For movies, I'd recommend X. Pearl should also stream soon enough, as should Barbarian (which you have to watch)
Oh shit yes Barbarian is fantastic


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Shows or movies? For shows, have you checked out Mike Flanagan's other stuff? The Haunting of Bly Manor wasn't as good but Midnight Mass was excellent

For movies, I'd recommend X. Pearl should also stream soon enough, as should Barbarian (which you have to watch)
I'm thinking both, and yeah I've watched his other stuff (also Gerald's Game which is fantastic) but none of it quite blew my mind like Hill House. Gonna give Midnight Club a try with my wife whenever we get a chance to watch TV.

Definitely have Barbarian on the list whenever it comes to something I can watch. I'll look into X and Pearl, thanks.
 
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I am just glad The Callisto Protocol, Dead Space Remake, and Resident Evil 4: Your Right Hand Comes Off edition, are all releasing pretty soon
So much seemingly nice high quality horror moider action
 
You've seen what makes me cheer, and this was your response:

😛
DAMMIT

And just like Rick I logic’d myself into defeat

now why would you think that... 😇
I’m just wondering because “Horizon remake” isn’t what I’d consider a cool concept at all

Unless you were referring to the general concept of robot dinosaurs, in which case yes they’re rad
 
Today when I woke up I imagined a Metroid Mini Direct that offered an update on Prime 4 and announced the Prime1 remaster. I'm upset that this won't happen.
 
I’m just wondering because “Horizon remake” isn’t what I’d consider a cool concept at all

Unless you were referring to the general concept of robot dinosaurs, in which case yes they’re rad
Yeah, I meant the latter. It's a really cool concept realized in a very unappealing package, at least to me. But clearly the market at large seems to disagree.
 
Today when I woke up I imagined a Metroid Mini Direct that offered an update on Prime 4 and announced the Prime1 remaster. I'm upset that this won't happen.
When's your birthday? Maybe we can will this into existance as a Famiboard present directly to you! 😊
 


I hate it here!!!!!!!!!!



I don't know anything about Fandom, but it's so wild to me how volatile the video games AND video games journalism industry both are.

The recent Fanbyte and Za/Um stories have been bumming me out.
 
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Man, I wish more media outlets reviewed the latest release of FIFA on Switch. Not because there's much to say about it, mind you, but because it is both fascinating and hilarious to see people coming up with so many different ways of saying "Holy shit, EA, this is fucking shameless". The Nintendo Life review is pretty great in this regard:

What we’ve been getting since then is the video game equivalent of ‘80s comedy Weekend at Bernie’s, with EA propping up the corpse of FIFA 18 on a stick and jiggling it around in the hope that people will believe it’s still a living, breathing entity.

It’s why cross-play is nowhere near the table: after all, how can a game that is essentially built around the Xbox 360 version of FIFA 17 seriously ever hope to interact with a ‘proper’ modern FIFA title? That wouldn’t be cross-play, it would be a seance.

Sheer poetry.
 
Man, I wish more media outlets reviewed the latest release of FIFA on Switch. Not because there's much to say about it, mind you, but because it is both fascinating and hilarious to see people coming up with so many different ways of saying "Holy shit, EA, this is fucking shameless". The Nintendo Life review is pretty great in this regard:





Sheer poetry.
Lmao it's that bad? Damn EA, you should change but reviews like this make me say otherwise. Easy for me though, I don't like Fifa at all.

I'm usually not that into horror movies but I'm going to the UK for a few days so I'll be in the mood to watch some stuff.
Lol, where's the relation between horror and the UK?
 
Man, I wish more media outlets reviewed the latest release of FIFA on Switch. Not because there's much to say about it, mind you, but because it is both fascinating and hilarious to see people coming up with so many different ways of saying "Holy shit, EA, this is fucking shameless". The Nintendo Life review is pretty great in this regard:





Sheer poetry.

Lmao it's that bad? Damn EA, you should change but reviews like this make me say otherwise. Easy for me though, I don't like Fifa at all.

I remember that some sites did mention that they weren't going to continue reviewing the switch version exactly for that reason ,its the same game with updated roosters (IRC there was a site that copy pasted the review 2 or 3 times lol). I applaud nintendo life to continue try to find something, but they took to long for the "acceptance" period. The worst problem is that it still sells
 
Why can't someone pay millions of dollars to acquire me 😭
Forget it. There was a time when you could buy Paul McGann on amazon for just 27 pounds as the video below proves. With such rates, what chance do us regular-ass people have?



Lmao it's that bad? Damn EA, you should change but reviews like this make me say otherwise. Easy for me though, I don't like Fifa at all.
Ever since FIFA 20, the Switch version has just been FIFA 19 with updated rosters. So FIFA 23 on Switch is pretty much FIFA 19 V.
 
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