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now this is c̸̨̧̦̟̦͙͍̖̼̼͛̉̍̊̃͋͌͛͛̚̚ͅo̸͎̪̣̟̫̥̖̥͚͉͚͖̱͕͔͚̔̅͗́̃̆̈́̐̐́ͅͅn̷̨̠̩̓͆͐̀́͂̓̀̐͛͋̎̔̚̕͜͠ṭ̷̡̛͈͓̪͇͙̟͚̥̮̞͙̞́̉̄̉͌́̎̉͑̀͗͋̐̋͝͝e̷̠̟͕̝̫͇̘̗̭̲̤͎̬͖̦̖̻͇̰̼͉͠n̵̢̨̢̧̢̨̝̪̱͉̣̙̬̹̻̹̯̬̰͚͚̻͉̲̬̗̐̉̈́̆̂͂̿̏̐́̀͊͜͜ͅt̵̼͐̇͊͑̎͊̏͛͒̚̚
 
just saw dragon ball super super heroes and had a lot of fun woohoooo I think the animation looked great during the fights and hope they keep using it for movies!!
 
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My grandpa is live playing Breath of the Wild on Twitch! Feel free to tune in and chill with us!

 
how many Pokémon would poke emon am I right
 
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I’m thinking for every hundred Grögols I draw, I should post a picture here with all 100 from that set piled into it like a where’s waldo
 
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How is that even possible?
When I saw it with my grandpa he said he liked it more because it had a proper ending. Having said that, I liked TLJ more but I also don’t hate TROS. I’m pretty easy to please when it comes to the Star Wars movies. It’s the games and novels that bother me most of the time, with some notable exceptions being KotOR, LEGO, and Respawn’s games.
 
A coworker of mine is quite unhappy that his child had the privilege of going to a weeklong science camp with his class where they had the audacity to ask everyone there for their preferred pronouns. He said many were distraught with how "woke" the camp had become.

Imagine having access to such a great learning opportunity and bemoaning it because they dared try and include people other than yourself.
 
A coworker of mine is quite unhappy that his child had the privilege of going to a weeklong science camp with his class where they had the audacity to ask everyone there for their preferred pronouns. He said many were distraught with how "woke" the camp had become.

Imagine having access to such a great learning opportunity and bemoaning it because they dared try and include people other than yourself.
Some people are very closed-minded and stubborn.
 
How is that even possible?
I agree that TROS is better than TLJ, but not by very much, and it's a very low bar lol.

In my opinion, the best parts of TLJ are better than the best parts of TROS, but the worst parts are much worse than the worst parts of TROS. TROS is a consistently mediocre movie, where TLJ has sections that are great and sections that are terrible.
 
I agree that TROS is better than TLJ, but not by very much, and it's a very low bar lol.

In my opinion, the best parts of TLJ are better than the best parts of TROS, but the worst parts are much worse than the worst parts of TROS. TROS is a consistently mediocre movie, where TLJ has sections that are great and sections that are terrible.

TROS is worse than TPM and AotC in my opinion. It’s an abomination.
 
TROS is worse than TPM and AotC in my opinion. It’s an abomination.
To be honest, while I can understand the hate for Attack of the Clones, I think The Phantom Menace doesn't really have any problems per se. At least, not any fundamental or substantial problems.

And to be fair: Attack of the Clones does have some genuinely fun parts (scenes involving Dooku; the chase scene; Obi-Wan's space flight with Jango).
 
It's definitely worse than TPM, I don't know if it's worse than AOTC, but it's not far off lmao.
That's not a very popular opinion.

I mean: not that there is anything at all wrong with that.

But TPM is usually considered better than AOTC.

Why would you consider it better than The Phantom Menace?
 
That's not a very popular opinion.

I mean: not that there is anything at all wrong with that.

But TPM is usually considered better than AOTC.

Why would you consider it better than The Phantom Menace?
D'oh!

You were saying that it isn't worse than TPM.

And that you were unsure about it being worse than AOTC.

Gotcha.

Ugh, I think I read your initial post too fast there. @Weebos
 
To be honest, while I can understand the hate for Attack of the Clones, I think The Phantom Menace doesn't really have any problems per se. At least, not any fundamental or substantial problems.

And to be fair: Attack of the Clones does have some genuinely fun parts (scenes involving Dooku; the chase scene; Obi-Wan's space flight with Jango).
I’ve grown to accept that I actually like AotC. For a long time I thought I didn’t but then every time I’d watch it I’d be like “this is better than I remember.” Never had any issues with Phantom Menace though.
 
TROS is easily the worst Star Wars movie imo. It straight-up ruined all seven movies that came before it.


Eggs-cruciating
TROS had new lore.

Which was kinda all I cared about from the sequel trilogy, admittedly.

I just felt that TFA and TLJ were too samey (they were OT clones) and too... small, you know?

Like:

The state of the galaxy in the sequel trilogy is sooooo fucking mysterious to me; there's nothing that I really... know about it.

IMHO
 
TROS had new lore.

Which was kinda all I cared about from the sequel trilogy, admittedly.

I just felt that TFA and TLJ were too samey (they were OT clones) and too... small, you know?

Like:

The state of the galaxy in the sequel trilogy is sooooo fucking mysterious to me; there's nothing that I really... know about it.

IMHO
I haven’t watched ANYTHING outside of the movies, but I’m hoping they start moving into some new territory with some of the shows soon.
 
I’ve grown to accept that I actually like AotC. For a long time I thought I didn’t but then every time I’d watch it I’d be like “this is better than I remember.” Never had any issues with Phantom Menace though.
As I mentioned, the scenes with Dooku besides the ending duels between him and the heroes were, I felt, pretty good and intriguing.




Also:

The Phantom Menace was literally "Amazon takes over a planet."

What could be more topical?

Hell, the political nature is, honestly, the best thing about the prequels, even if it was kinda ham-fistedly done.

I like how Dooku in Attack of the Clones literally calls one interest group in the CIS the "Banking Clans" or some shit. Gah! Forgot exactly what he says. But it's nice. In a way: ahead of its time. I don't think very many 1990s or 2000s movies really went out of their way to diss corporations like the prequels did (where the Confederacy are quite literally a bunch of corporate overlords fighting over business regulation).

Oh, I'm not saying that fiction has never had evil corporations as the antagonist, I'm just saying that it doesn't often happen in Western fiction, especially back then, and was even more unexpected with Star Wars, where the prevailing wisdom was that the "evil government was bad" (which is a bullshit interpretation).

Of course, George Lucas was a 1960s/70s radical, very much a product of his time; so we really shouldn't have been surprised.

But all the same: it was a surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.
 
TROS is an insult to cinema

I’d rather watch the first two prequels in a row than TROS. Meme about AOTC all you want but at least it had the integrity of telling a coherent story and not basically retcon everything solely to please crybaby fans

TLJ isn’t great but at least it’s a decently made movie. The way they wrote themselves into a corner was definitely disappointing though, I also think the pacing was kind of off, ESB did the whole “heroes are on the run/chased” better, in TLJ it was like 80% of the movie was warpspeed so the sense of adventure usually found in Star Wars wasn’t there

TFA I actually really liked, despite the blatant similarities to ANH I felt like it was a fine setup to introduce the series to a new generation. They really fumbled the bag by not making Finn a Jedi in the later movies
 
TROS had new lore.

Which was kinda all I cared about from the sequel trilogy, admittedly.

I just felt that TFA and TLJ were too samey (they were OT clones) and too... small, you know?

Like:

The state of the galaxy in the sequel trilogy is sooooo fucking mysterious to me; there's nothing that I really... know about it.

IMHO
The sequels could really use a Clone Wars-type show to flesh things out some more, but I also do think there's less material to work with there than the Prequels offered. Probably why the live action shows are mostly ignoring the actual time period around the sequels so far
 
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TROS is an insult to cinema

I’d rather watch the first two prequels in a row than TROS. Meme about AOTC all you want but at least it had the integrity of telling a coherent story and not basically retcon everything solely to please crybaby fans

TLJ isn’t great but at least it’s a decently made movie. The way they wrote themselves into a corner was definitely disappointing though, I also think the pacing was kind of off, ESB did the whole “heroes are on the run/chased” better, in TLJ it was like 80% of the movie was warpspeed so the sense of adventure usually found in Star Wars wasn’t there

TFA I actually really liked, despite the blatant similarities to ANH I felt like it was a fine setup to introduce the series to a new generation. They really fumbled the bag by not making Finn a Jedi in the later movies
the fact that these extraordinarily wealthy executives (I hesitate to call them artists) went into a three film endeavor without bothering to plan at all really pisses me off
 
TROS is an insult to cinema

I’d rather watch the first two prequels in a row than TROS. Meme about AOTC all you want but at least it had the integrity of telling a coherent story and not basically retcon everything solely to please crybaby fans

TLJ isn’t great but at least it’s a decently made movie. The way they wrote themselves into a corner was definitely disappointing though, I also think the pacing was kind of off, ESB did the whole “heroes are on the run/chased” better, in TLJ it was like 80% of the movie was warpspeed so the sense of adventure usually found in Star Wars wasn’t there

TFA I actually really liked, despite the blatant similarities to ANH I felt like it was a fine setup to introduce the series to a new generation. They really fumbled the bag by not making Finn a Jedi in the later movies
Really?

I don't know.

Been watching TROS reviews and it's amazing how it turned out to be... the way it was.

SO much was against it.

SOOOOOOOO much was against it that people don't realize it.

It was doing too much and you could see it.

And that's why I appreciate it.

Not necessarily because it may be a good film (none of the ST films were) but because there's so much working against it.

So you can appreciate how it turned out in spite of what was going against it.

 
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I work in a ridiculously conservative town in an unbelievably conservative county in a purple state. It's a lot.
I work in a ridiculously conservative town in an unbelievably conservative county in a blue state. And I'm convinced it makes them even more unhinged and hateful because the government and reputation of this state is so thoroughly blue that they don't just hate outsiders and minorities and dissimilar views, they hate their own home state and feel constantly oppressed by it. They can't even have pride in their home, so all they can have pride in and all they can relate to others through is their own bigotry.
 
Reminder that Qui-Gon Jinn was the best thing about the prequel trilogy:




As a kid, I really wished that he had survived for a few more movies.
 
Reminder that Qui-Gon Jinn was the best thing about the prequel trilogy:




As a kid, I really wished that he had survived for a few more movies.

I thought Dual of the Fates was the best thing about the prequel trilogy
 
Great, now I’m thinking of the Anakin/Obi-Wan scene in Kenobi and I’m gonna start crying again
 
Great, now I’m thinking of the Anakin/Obi-Wan scene in Kenobi and I’m gonna start crying again
I think it enhances the prequels.




Frankly: I feel that the ST needs more stuff to enhance it, but there isn't much there to be enhanced.

I feel (and this is my opinion) that it's too bereft of new content.

IMHO, of course.
 
the fact that these extraordinarily wealthy executives (I hesitate to call them artists) went into a three film endeavor without bothering to plan at all really pisses me off
just gotta hit the taste clusters and get the right verticals to watch who needs planning
 
I think it enhances the prequels.




Frankly: I feel that the ST needs more stuff to enhance it, but there isn't much there to be enhanced.

I feel (and this is my opinion) that it's too bereft of new content.

IMHO, of course.

That scene is absolutely brilliant. It’s heart-wrenching. The only problem with it is Obi-Wan doesn’t kill Vader at the end like he should have. Obviously he can’t for story purposes, but that’s what needed to be done in that moment.

And you’re 100% right, that scenes really adds a lot to the prequels. The prequels were already chock full of depth - they just didn’t do enough with what they had created.
 
That scene is absolutely brilliant. It’s heart-wrenching. The only problem with it is Obi-Wan doesn’t kill Vader at the end like he should have. Obviously he can’t for story purposes, but that’s what needed to be done in that moment.

And you’re 100% right, that scenes really adds a lot to the prequels. The prequels were already chock full of depth - they just didn’t do enough with what they had created.
Also:

Juxtaposing Anakin and Vader's voice together was great.

And the yell at the end!
 
I work in a ridiculously conservative town in an unbelievably conservative county in a blue state. And I'm convinced it makes them even more unhinged and hateful because the government and reputation of this state is so thoroughly blue that they don't just hate outsiders and minorities and dissimilar views, they hate their own home state and feel constantly oppressed by it. They can't even have pride in their home, so all they can have pride in and all they can relate to others through is their own bigotry.
They'll be the death of Pikachu:

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Everyone's getting hyped over a potential Direct, meanwhile I'm wondering if we'll see a Genesis NSO update before the month is over.
 
Everyone's getting hyped over a potential Direct, meanwhile I'm wondering if we'll see a Genesis NSO update before the month is over.
They seem to be doing the Genesis games every two months, give or take a week, so we should be getting some this month.
 
Warning: long development related post which is more or less just me talking something out with myself to figure out the best way to do something.

So my game has a first person world map. The map has everything at exaggerated sizes like old jrpg maps tend to do. Like, you move one tile in game but in the world that's supposed to be 5 miles or something, you get the idea.

Something I'm having trouble figuring out is how to deal with enemies on the world map/overworld. In individual levels it's easy, I'll place probably no more than 60-70 enemies total and they'll be fairly easy to load since there will be only a few enemy types per level.

But the world map is supposed to have lots of discrete regions and should have enemies more or less sprinkled all throughout it since that will be one of the main impediments to traversal and exploration. The world map is a 64x64 grid, while each dungeon is either 10x10 or 15x15 (though some have multiple floors).

Basically the issue is, if I want to have enough enemies to make the world map interesting it'll probably have to be several hundred, maybe even up to 500. And more importantly there will have to be lots of different enemy types to reflect a diverse world. Probably close to 75, maybe even much more.

Both of these numbers present unique problems:

1) Amount of total enemies:

Many of my functions, especially in combat, use a node called "get all actors of class" where the class is enemybase. Meaning, I'm constantly asking the engine to find every enemy object in the level I'm in. For most dungeons where there are no more than 70 that is instantaneous and shouldn't bother the CPU too much, but on an overworld with 400-500+ objects, calling that function every turn of combat, sometimes multiple times per turn, would very likely be a huge CPU drain.

2) Amount of enemy types

The game needs to load each enemy's data every time I load a new level. Again with dungeons where you've got maybe 5-10 enemy types this isn't a big issue. That's like, maybe 30 to 60 textures and models needed at the most. With 75+ discrete enemy types I'm now looking at 450+ unique textures, many of which are very high resolution. So this would be a huge drain on the RAM and probably GPU too.

Basically, I feel like for the scope of the game I'm making (and the dinky ass laptop I'm making it on) placing every enemy in the worldmap seems unfeasible. But then what are the alternatives?



A) Random encounters
Everybody hates these. But they can be done in less offensive ways, like I can make a visible "wandering blob" type entity which moves around the worldmap and once you get close enough it spawns a group of random enemies. This way I only have a few enemies and enemy types in the level at once, much more manageable. But is it fun? Is it a pain to know you might encounter an enemy but have no idea what enemy?

B) Separate worldspace
This is one that I really don't want to do. One of the main reasons I love WRPGs is that everything takes place in the same worldspace- exploration, combat, dialogue, shopping... it's the biggest difference IMO between WRPGs and JRPGs. I'm making a WRPG, despite the fact that everything else about it feels more like a JRPG.

C) Regional spawns
This feels like the best solution at the moment, But I'm having trouble figuring out how to go about it. Basically the idea is, I still have one single worldmap level but I will divide it into regions using invisible box triggers, and when you move from one box trigger to the next you will spawn all of the enemies that will go in that region. I can place a ton of specific spawn points tied to specific enemies, or some can be randomly placed or have random enemies. The problem in my mind is what happens when you move from one region to the next? Do all of the enemies from the previous region disappear? How would that work if you're in combat and moving across these region lines? I can see that being extremely finnicky in situations like this.




I'm pretty sure I convinced myself to thoroughly test and explore option C but if anyone has any thoughts I'd love to hear them.



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