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News Nintendo Direct Mini: Partner Showcase announced for June 28th

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Thing is, for most people most third party games on the Switch are either:
  • Late port of games they've probably already played, but with worse graphics and performance
  • Games that would be better-looking, performing, and possibly designed if they were released elsewhere
It's really not too surprising that people are disappointed by a Direct focused on them, even if there's a potential for good news. Of course if you're someone who sees a ton of value in portability then this is gonna be much better; but most don't see it similarly. Especially with the Steam Deck now also filling the "big 3rd parties on a handheld console" niche.

Those are all very fair points and I agree. If I was a big Nintendo fan, I would probably be disappointed too.
I'm lucky to enjoy the switch mostly for its portability as I don't play on other platforms, so I'm quite indifferent to the type of direct as long as the games shown are intrinsically good.
 
Glio was talking about third party games in general though.
? This is what Glio said:
"It has to be depressing to develop third party games for Switch and then to read the reaction"
I replied explaining why people might have those reactions. 3rd parties on Switch are just not as exciting to some people, and that's perfectly fine. No body should be expected to be excited for... a port of Nier: Automata.

Cool, someone on Era is saying he also said no new hardware till 2024+?
This is 100% what I'm expecting now. Hardware next year always felt like a pipe-dream based on BotW2's absence.
 
I still can't understand where this "P5R maybe can't work on Switch" nonsense comes from. Far more complicated games have gotten native ports.
 
They could, but they're not going to wait until Jan/Feb to talk about games coming out by the end of March. That's way too close. Unless you're saying they could do Twitter announcements and trailers and then do a deeper showing in early 2023, which... maybe? But I really don't see that happening.
That's exactly what I'm saying. Sorry, but I can't see a solid evidence for a September Direct apart from yearly patterns... but we know what happened with patterns this month.
 
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But seriously I'd be shocked if he didn't put some other kind of hint in that thumbnail. Anything else stand out besides the Luma's ears?
 
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? This is what Glio said:
"It has to be depressing to develop third party games for Switch and then to read the reaction"
I replied explaining why people might have those reactions.
I didn't really get from your explanation that this has to do with the partner showcase replacing the regular E3 Direct. I think virtually everyone is disappointed about that.
 
Cool, someone on Era is saying he also said no new hardware till 2024+?

It's the most logical outcome. Nintendo has probably enough steam and games to coast through 2023 with the current switch model, and that's perfectly fine with me.
2024 would be the sweet spot to release a new console.
 
1) why not?
2) who are you to decide that?
I said nobody should be expected to be excited for it.

As in, they shouldn't be shat on for not being excited for it.

If you're excited for it... great? I never said otherwise lol

I didn't really get from your explanation that this has to do with the partner showcase replacing the regular E3 Direct. I think virtually everyone is disappointed about that.
Yeah, and it was unclear what "reaction" Glio was referring to. So let's just leave this here.
 
I still can't understand where this "P5R maybe can't work on Switch" nonsense comes from. Far more complicated games have gotten native ports.
People just constantly invent shit about the Switch's hardware capabilities, with unironic statements or falsehoods like "weaker than PS3/360", "runs Hades at 30 FPS", "too underpowered for Sonic Origins", as if the past 5+ years of enhanced PS3/360 ports and several PS4/XBO ports did not exist and haven't been played by thousands of people already. "Switch is underpowered" is technically true in a specific context but when applied to literally every game coming out it becomes really annoying to read and folks just go with it because it "seems right".
 
Are we all forgetting the Shareholders Meeting? Should we expect anything worth-mention from there?
"We have nothing to show about The Sequel to The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild at this time. Please understand."
"The Switch is half-way through it's life-cycle."
"No. We're not doing NFTs."
 
Thing is, for most people most third party games on the Switch are either:
  • Late port of games they've probably already played, but with worse graphics and performance
  • Games that would be better-looking, performing, and possibly designed if they were released elsewhere
It's really not too surprising that people are disappointed by a Direct focused on them, even if there's a potential for good news. Of course if you're someone who sees a ton of value in portability then this is gonna be much better; but most don't see it similarly. Especially with the Steam Deck now also filling the "big 3rd parties on a handheld console" niche.
Define most. As it currently stands the Steam Deck can’t fill that niche considering it is niche itself. I would say a good majority of Switch owners are fine with playing games that are “inferior”, essentially, to other counterparts. If they weren’t then we would’ve seeing the type of sales for 3rd party games on the system.
 
Define most. As it currently stands the Steam Deck can’t fill that niche considering it is niche itself. I would say a good majority of Switch owners are fine with playing games that are “inferior”, essentially, to other counterparts. If they weren’t then we would’ve seeing the type of sales for 3rd party games on the system.

If the ports are good, I prefer to play them on Switch.
 
Are we all forgetting the Shareholders Meeting? Should we expect anything worth-mention from there?
No, this meeting doesn't even usually have a presentation. It's just about voting for the board of directors and subsequent Q&A which occasionally gives us something interesting, usually something ridiculous.
 
Not sure I want to wait until 2024 to play BotW 2 if Nintendo waits that long for new hardware. I’ll eat crow if BotW2 releases only on Switch and no to coincide with a new system.
 
I said nobody should be expected to be excited for it.

As in, they shouldn't be shat on for not being excited for it.

If you're excited for it... great? I never said otherwise lol
Ah, I see - my apologies. That makes sense.
 
Something something "Switch is currently in its mid-life cycle"
I hope my midlife cycle is as long as the switches relative to a total lifespan. Means I’ll be pretty good and then just drop off a cliff. better than the Wii U midlife cycle which was like a week and then dying for 2/3 of the total life.
 
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Now where the Fuck does this 2024 and Zelda BoTW2 comes from?
People in here are talking about era comments about 2024 for switch 2, I personally believe BotW 2 and switch 2 releases together. So to me if switch 2 isn’t until 2024, neither is botw2.
 
What are the chances Fire Emblem shows up? I know it's a 1st party franchise but since it's being developed by a third party developer could there be at least a smidgen of hope for it?
 
That confirms Nier Automata, it was handled by Platinum after all.
Oohhh shittt, I didn't connect the dots! Omg, please let this be true. If all the 3rd party rumors are true, this will be one of the strongest directs for me personally. Switch is my only platform and I badly want to play Nier and Persona games.
 
What are the chances Fire Emblem shows up? I know it's a 1st party franchise but since it's being developed by a third party developer could there be at least a smidgen of hope for it?
I doubt it, even if the game was 100% done by Koei Tecmo and Gust with 0% input from IS or Nintendo, it's still a "first party series".
 
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Is the only PG game that has been a big seller, it's the one that makes the most sense to port even if I still think that it will not happen.

Oh I'm sure it makes sense. It's a much much smarter guess than those crazy RDR2 speculations. I'm just not very interested in it, and it comes really really late.
 
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