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Discussion According to @Brazil podcast 'X do Controle' Nintendo Switch 2 will release in march 2025 - Summary updated [Eurogamer is corroborating]

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korok said:
They were so fucking insistent with the smooth transition only to end up like this.
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To be fair, my girlfriend and best friend are both avid Switch fans, play the thing every week, neither of them are remotely following Switch 2 rumours. Neither will until there's an official announcement. If Nintendo announced it in March to release in November, then delayed it- That would bother them and probably look like a mess. If they announce it's coming in March 2025 and it comes in March 2025? That would seem smooth to them.

Facts of the matter are, they're both probably in the top 20% of Switch players. They'll both buy one the minute their finances/local stocks allow. Us, here, on this board, are the top 1%. The people following these rumours? 99% are going to buy the bastard right away anyway. It's only feeling like a mess to the most dedicated fans.
 
thegodsend said:
People are overreacting a bit on what in the end is a 3-4 month delay from the original plans, which will lead to better / more software around launch. But I understand the frustration.

I think second half of the year we will learn more about it and the lineup and the mood will change.

Also maybe we will now get a F Zero GX remaster in the meantime... some good games would make the wait bearable for me.
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It’s more like a 6 months delay from the earliest release date being a September 2024 to a march 2025 at the earliest.
 
Eurogamer updated

www.eurogamer.net

Nintendo Switch 2 release date now Q1 2025 - reports

UPDATE 8.45pm UK: Eurogamer sources can now corroboate the earlier reports that the Switch 2, once destined for release…
www.eurogamer.net www.eurogamer.net

UPDATE 8.45pm UK: Eurogamer sources can now corroboate the earlier reports that the Switch 2, once destined for release later in 2024, is now set for Q1 2025.

The console's launch moving into early next year - but still within the coming financial year - is designed to ensure Switch 2's launch line-up features as many titles as possible, Eurogamer understands.
 
They have Pokémon, could easily announce smaller games on twitter or have a general direct in between stuff mentioned in these rumour. I don't understand the immediate loss of hope in regards to their software lineup. 2024 was never gonna be the Switch's best year...
 
Brazil said:
Cross-posting from Era, but -

I guess I should mention that, despite my not at all comprehensive knowledge of Nintendo's line-up for the year, I'm already kinda excited for what I know is coming out before next year. I understand the doomposting, but eh.
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Yeah I mean, games like Metroid Prime 4, Fe4, DK and Pokémon are heavily rumored by several months. I'm note saying we'll see all of 'em, but even some of them would be dope, and male the wait for Switch 2 beareable.

Btw, Congrats for the scoop! Kudos to you.
 
Next year might have a new console, Layton, Mario Kart, and Dragon Quest XII........🛐
 
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LukasManak22 said:
The thing about launch titles, I doubt it would launch with too many EPD releases. It will be just like Switch 1, to ensure continued pace in months after launch.
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Yeah, Nintendo will be thinking about the longer term and the pace of major releases. They could well have some things ready, and others not, and delay for the sake of the latter.
 
LukasManak22 said:
The thing about launch titles, I doubt it would launch with too many EPD releases. It will be just like Switch 1, to ensure continued pace in months after launch.
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I think that's the better case anyway, at least for me. Have a casual party game and a single player game ready, some cool indies and third party companies and after that nice first party games every 1-2 months, maybe some update patches and third parties like Dragon Quest and Layton... that would be really great
 
Brazil said:
Cross-posting from Era, but -

I guess I should mention that, despite my not at all comprehensive knowledge of Nintendo's line-up for the year, I'm already kinda excited for what I know is coming out before next year. I understand the doomposting, but eh.
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omg elite beat agents 2 confirmed
 
I don't see this as a bad thing for consumers because first-party content is not ready. If you want a powerful device that plays third-party titles that play all the latest AAA games just get a Steam Deck or Series S.
 
I could see DK being Nintendo’s major holiday title now. Casual appeal, probably won’t need the hardware boost, has seemingly been in development for a while. Feels like a good fit.
 
Well at least they have now much more time to reveal their new major launch game instead of six months.
 
This is exciting to me because it means Partner in February, Console in March(?), Level-5 in April, and Console in June. Pretty sweet spring in terms of video game ads
 
Brazil said:
I feel like I've given people enough work for today, hahaha. Just wanted to ease on the doom for a bit.
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If you don't mind my asking, has any of this shift in information given any further details or confirmation on backwards compatibility?

I'll be a lot more okay with the hardware delay once Nintendo officially confirms backwards compatibility, specifically physical backwards compatibility. Otherwise, I'll be hesitant to purchase additional Switch games throughout 2024.
 
Yup… going against gta6…

Nintendo is going for a storm… congrats nintendo. A new flop has become more reasonable
 
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Thunder84 said:
I could see DK being Nintendo’s major holiday title now. Casual appeal, probably won’t need the hardware boost, has seemingly been in development for a while. Feels like a good fit.
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Yup! H2 2024 will likely be 2D DK, Pokémon remake, Mario Party, FE4 remake and F-Zero?
 
It is amusing how we went from "Xbox and Playstation is absolutely going third party and neither deserve to be first party." to "Nintendo is going to go third party due to a horrible Switch 2 launch that will absolutely happen and Nintendo doesn't deserve to be first party" in like...a week.

Some of y'all pay too close attention to these rumors and then extrapolate far too much from them.
 
You know, I think I made a team 2025 post in jest a few days ago, I wonder if I can parlay that into a career as an insider. :unsure:
 
Alright my current cope is

If Switch 2 has a PS2 level first year in terms of software this delay will be all worth it

If it really is just that they only have 2-3 games ready to go that they will drip feed every quarter then 🥲
 
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Maybe something like 3D Mario and Casual EPD Game in March and Prime 4 in April/May

Man this is bonkers, I was so sure it was gonna be this year. Nothing is confirmed but it ain't looking good
 
I wonder if this means Nintendo REALLY believes in generations and will barely release any cross-gen games.
 
Eh, disappointing for sure but I can understand if their software lineup isn't where it needs to be. Sure it'll probably have BC and can potentially specifically enhance or just brute force better performance on Switch 1 games, but you only get one chance to launch a console and all three of the big platform holders have fucked it up to a greater or lesser degree before, so I can see why Nintendo wants a more robust new lineup.
 
LukasManak22 said:
If this delay was really a last minute why they just did not turn the Partner into the General? Just put there some ports, remakes, remasters and you have a full General.

This doesn't add up.
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I mean, H1 2019 and H1 2018 were pretty terrible. Just so Nintendo came with everything and absolutely stacked July-November with more than one game a month.

Potential games that can be released in the reminder of 2024 wouldn't be February Direct material anyways, Mario Party was an E3 announcement in 2018 and 2021, Pokémon is Pokémon presents, Donkey Kong can wait until June depending on when it's releasing...

They might have more remasters coming in H1 even but didn't feel like just them would be enough to meet the excitement of a general Direct.
karmitt said:
What’s upsetting me the most is, does this mean they’re also delaying the reveal of the hardware?

We were speculating some kind of reveal in March. Are we going to see them reveal this thing likely 12 months ahead of a launch? I’d rather that happen than anything else so we don’t have to go through another hellish 6-8 months of speculation.
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Sadly I think that's the case, yeah... I just don't see them doing an actual reveal 12 months from launch. I guess they'll officially acknowledge the console in March and I hope reveal 3D Mario in June even before fully revealing the console. At least Metroid Prime 4 can be shown regardless and be cross gen.
Mekanos said:
I think at this point Nintendo is all in on Prime 4 being crossgen. If it was coming as a Switch 1 exclusive they would have teased it in the fall Direct rather than another Mario remake.
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Yeah, I think releasing it just before Switch 2 is sending it out to die... Pokémon and Mario Party will sell regardless and even more because of the install base, Donkey Kong can sell a lot too and be an evergreen, but I think MP4 will need the boost of being a launch window title Switch 2.

But I mean maybe having it as the main core focused holiday game can work maybe? It worked for Dread in 2021. But vastly different scenario.
Christo750 said:
Maybe that is what’s happening? Trying to get a DK trailer or something ready for a rebranded Direct for this week.

If Switch 2 is truly 2025 they have to announce something first-party this month for later this year. Needs to happen.
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Even with Switch 2 coming in 2024 I thought DK would come before it. Makes a perfect swan song and can sell as an evergreen on Switch 2.
Lucifer said:
It's kind of a red flag the console as to be delayed because MK9 and 3D Mario have to be delayed. They've had a decade for one of those.
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They delayed the Switch literally because 3D Mario wouldn't be out until the next holiday season and because they'd delay Zelda alongside it.

And no, they didn't have a decade for those. Mario Kart wouldn't have started full development until somewhere between 2019-2021. The next 3D Mario is probably bigger in scope than ever and is being developed targeting a far more powerful hardware, so it taking 5-6 years of full development while taking longer with pre-production while passing through a pandemic isn't a disaster.
Brazil said:
That sounds reasonable. Wish I knew more about the reveal plans, but I think we're just gonna have to wait to figure it out.

And I don't see anyone saying crap! It's all good, haha.
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Yeah, it's gonna be a painful wait lol. I think we'll be fine once Nintendo acknowledges the system and holds a proper Direct a reveals the lineup for the rest of 2024 and we can look forward to games coming as cross gen.
Ricimer said:
7-8 years development times aren't sustainable. In my opinion there's no reason why Mario Kart Next should have a dev time that long. Do we really expect the game to be that much grander in scope compared to MK8?
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We have to look at Animal Crossing New Horizons which had 8 years of total development, but the most of it was pre-production done by the leads, with full development with a large team not starting until like 2016.

The next 3D Mario might've been under pre-production/early development until 2019. And it's probably bigger in scope than Odyssey.

Mario Kart is probably going for graphical fidelity and being different enough and bigger than 8, and that's a hell of a task.
Brazil said:
Cross-posting from Era, but -

I guess I should mention that, despite my not at all comprehensive knowledge of Nintendo's line-up for the year, I'm already kinda excited for what I know is coming out before next year. I understand the doomposting, but eh.
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My current guess for the rest of the year is:
  • Fire Emblem 4 Remake;
  • Pokémon Legends 2 or B/W remakes;
  • 2D Zelda;
  • Donkey Kong;
  • big casual game(Tomodachi Life? Animal Crossing remake?)
FloofGaming said:
Hey if switch 2 is actually somewhat delayed then that means more time I could have for saving up money for one lmao.
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Yeah, I'll be graduated so I hope I can spend the savings from my early salaries on the next hardware.
Regulus Tera said:
People wanted PS4 level graphics, gotta get used to PS4 development cycles
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Lmao THIS!
Even TotK which is a Switch game and other late gen Switch games took more than five years, I don't see why people are acting like full next gen games in the 3D Mario and Kart taking that long is a disaster.
korok said:
They were so fucking insistent with the smooth transition only to end up like this.
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It can still have a smooth transition. Early in 2023 everyone thought it would be Tears of the Kingdom and coasting with remasters until Switch 2, then we got one of the best years of all time.
Djehuty said:
can someone explain to me why

H2 2024 would make it so the swithc 2 sold 300mil copies and solved all the worlds problems
meanwhile H1 2025 would be a dreamcast scenario

all im seeing is peoples own hopes being crushed, the switch taking a step back next year is fine because everyone else is.

2024 is going to be one of the emptiest years of all time, pretty lucky for an emergency delay.

this transition can still be smooth for casuals.

these remakes are targeting a new audience as much as they are an old one, and there are still unannounced games.

it wont be breaking records but they will still sell games at a good pace.
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Yeah, I'm of the same opinion. We're just too early in the year to make premature assumptions about how it's gonna be and about how a... 4 month delay will disgrace the next gen.
 
Paxie said:
www.eurogamer.net

Nintendo Switch 2 release date now Q1 2025 - reports

UPDATE 8.45pm UK: Eurogamer sources can now corroboate the earlier reports that the Switch 2, once destined for release…
www.eurogamer.net www.eurogamer.net

Fully corroborated by Eurogamer, they confirmed it has to do with software.
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I believe them, but this is really weird. How can they be lacking software when it's been seven years since the last 3D Mario and ten years since the last Mario Kart? When Metroid Prime 4 has been in development since January 2019?

I'm certainly less qualified than Furukawa, but I assume it would be better to launch a system with an OK launch line-up, but before the holidays and with no competition rather than launch a system with a great launch line-up but after the holidays and maybe against some big games (and maybe hardware?) from the competition.

The Switch had one of the worst launch line-ups in Nintendo's history and it still was a success.
 
NBOctoling said:
It is amusing how we went from "Xbox and Playstation is absolutely going third party and neither deserve to be first party." to "Nintendo is going to go third party due to a horrible Switch 2 launch that will absolutely happen and Nintendo doesn't deserve to be first party" in like...a week.

Some of y'all pay too close attention to these rumors and then extrapolate far too much from them.
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No, the lesson we all need to learn is to make enormous and sweeping judgements of all things at all times. More of this sort of thing!

pls no tho
 
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Brazil said:
Cross-posting from Era, but -

I guess I should mention that, despite my not at all comprehensive knowledge of Nintendo's line-up for the year, I'm already kinda excited for what I know is coming out before next year. I understand the doomposting, but eh.
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It's ok you can say it.

Just copy and paste this phrase: "Primed and Ready".

See? Easy! Now you try.

...

Please?
 
Please for the love of God, launch MH wilds on Switch 2 and all will be forgiven.

Even better if it's a launch title.

Man...I genuinely did not expect Early 2025 release lol.

Edit: wait...so we have to wait even longer to play Persona 3 Reload and Metaphor?? Urghhhh
 
Thunder84 said:
Pokemon has never been Nintendo’s only holiday title during the Switch era. There’s always something else next to it, probably since Nintendo doesn’t fully own Pokemon.
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My bad then, I legit can't remember bigger games that Pokémon for Holiday 2019 and 2022 lol
 
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