If you have your Nintendo account linked to your console you have until March 2023 to add and make purchases, as it pulls fund from same wallet as that used for Switch purchases.Jesus, this feels way too soon. And we only have until May before they stop accepting credit cards?! Looks I'm going to have to move fast on some stuff I've been holding off on.
Not happy at all.
Hey just wanted to say thank you for taking the lead here. I’ve never managed a thread like that before so I was hoping someone with more forum experience would step up. The Wii U, 3DS, and Virtual Console mean a lot to me so it’s going to be a great resource to have here.Ok. Will work on a decent one with purchase links (for NA at least) if I can find them and whatnot tonight. Hopefully have it ready by morning.
It's been years since I played them, but 2 and 3 are good imo. 2 feels pretty similar to the SNES game iirc, so maybe not worth it, but it's still a solid GB platformer. 3 is actually the one I enjoyed the most which is ironic given 3 is generally considered the weakest of the SNES trilogy. The first isn't really worth bothering with.Looks like I’m mostly good on the 3DS virtual console. Going to get the Pokemon Trading Card game and maybe Pokemon Puzzle challenge.
Are the Donkey Kong Land games any good? $4 for each.
Thanks! I’ll probably pick up 2 and 3 then.It's been years since I played them, but 2 and 3 are good imo. 2 feels pretty similar to the SNES game iirc, so maybe not worth it, but it's still a solid GB platformer. 3 is actually the one I enjoyed the most which is ironic given 3 is generally considered the weakest of the SNES trilogy. The first isn't really worth bothering with.
I plugged mine in earlier this morning to play Zack and Wiki which I haven’t played before. Never would have thought 12 hours later this would be happening lol.I don't like it, especially with the 3DS. The Wii-U I kind of get. I'm pretty sure I'm one of 12 people that turned their system on within the last year.
Payment processing, accounting, and customer service are always the most expensive parts of operating a store and most likely outweigh whatever money they're bringing in. Keeping the servers running for downloads costs next to nothing. If they're already losing money keeping the store open then there's little point in keeping it open.
IIRC payment processing servers tend to be separate and more expensive to run (if they're properly secure) than content servers, though I might be making that up. Can't remember.
This isn't some one of a kind physical work of art. These are infinitely reproducible digital works. The comparison doesn't work at all.
You can in fact play those backups in the original hardware with relative ease nowadays. The only thing actually hampering it would be the lack of availability of said hardware.I actually believe this to be one of the cases where the word preservation holds weight. Sure -- there's nothing stopping you from downloading software en masse through other means -- but so much of the context is missing without the specific hardware itself. Developers intended their games to be played on 3DS displays with 3D or on Wii U with additional GamePad features. Ease of accessibility on original hardware is a means of design preservation in this case.
I'm certain that the 3D effect in particular won't be easy to replicate and it means that particular context will eventually be lost to time as the hardware either fails or becomes unobtainable for later generations. A game like A Link Between Worlds all of a sudden loses its design intent to future generations and I think that aspect sucks from a preservation standpoint. So I don't believe it's a loaded word in this case, like it's often thrown around.
Holy shit, they actually bothered to include this and answer with a "fuck you".
Thanks! I’ll probably pick up 2 and 3 then.
They likely did look into it. It sucks, but it is what it is.But you'd think they'd look into unifying the payment processing servers to prevent this, at least.
Yeah you’re right I might as well get the full trilogy for another $4. I’m at $40 now for my final 3DS eshop purchases so I’m not doing too bad.Sad, but I guess it had to happen at some point.
This is truly incredible, and what makes it more amazing is that they apparently removed that part afterwards! Seems super passive aggressive. If it wasn't clear before that VC is dead, it is now!
I'd honestly recommend picking up 1 as well! It's rough, but there's a lot to love about it, especially if you're a big DK fan. Like the really small and goofy looking K. Rool sprite!
...as you can see, I do mean it when I say it's rough. But if you're already getting 2 and 3, might as well!
Yeah you’re right I might as well get the full trilogy for another $4. I’m at $40 now for my final 3DS eshop purchases so I’m not doing too bad.
Since I liked Arceus, I bought physical copies of Pokemon X and Alpha Sapphire. Only missing White for mainline Pokemon, but new copies go for $400 instead of $40 each so skipping that I guess. Probably will get a remake in like two, three years anyway. Figuring out Wii U still.
I made a big list for Wii U for others in this thread.Not a lot on Wii U to really recommend that isn't already on Switch. I guess you could pick up Xenoblade X and the NES Remix games. It's also your only option if you want to "own" a digital copy of Earthbound Beginnings, since the Switch version is NSO subscription only. If you're really into collecting obscurities you could get Devil's Third, though since it's absolute garbage there's probably not that much reason to.
Time to move on
Preservation is not only about some fancy Mario collections people keep in their library. Decisions like these are basically wiping away a part of gaming history. There are thousands of smaller titles you won’t be able to get to anymore, there’s DLC, there’s the last remaining proper virtual console.I'm gonna be honest and say the weirdly toxic way "game preservation" is used nowadays makes me instantly scoff whenever anyone uses it.
Availability and accessibility aren't required for "preservation". Or else we'd have a lot of problems with works of art being kept in private collections.
It's fine to be mad the games will be harder to actually play legally. (Not that there aren't other avenues nowadays to do so, anyway). That's understandable.
Throwing "preservation" in there though, bothers me on principle. These games are perfectly preserved already, both in Nintendo's vaults and in... Community dumps, let's call them.
All talking about preservation does in these instances is basically negatively paint actual game preservation for many. There is very little risk of misplacing and "losing" 3DS software forever. It's another word some people use until their meaning is run to the ground and back, in some cases to justify, well, illegal access to games, and it's tiring.
There is very little risk of "losing" 3DS software forever. Physical copies are in plentiful supply, and digital content is dumped. It's fine to be bothered by digital purchases ending, but preservation this ain't.
Again, accessibility isn't the same thing as preservation, and conflating both like this does more harm for preservation itself, than help. 99% of the titles we'd "lose" access to here, are perfectly preserved in both the Nintendo Vault and community ROM dumps already.Preservation is not only about some fancy Mario collections people keep in their library. Decisions like these are basically wiping away a part of gaming history. There are thousands of smaller titles you won’t be able to get to anymore, there’s DLC, there’s the last remaining proper virtual console.
And I hope you don’t mean that “Nintendo vault” thing seriously
Preservation is only important for online arguments without accessibility.Again, accessibility isn't the same thing as preservation, and conflating both like this does more harm for preservation itself, than help. 99% of the titles we'd "lose" access to here, are perfectly preserved in both the Nintendo Vault and community ROM dumps already.
What also doesn't help either is dropping hyperbole like "basically wiping away a part of gaming history". No history is being wiped anywhere. Else we'd have all forgotten about the Virtual Boy already. Even if the games themselves were actually not accessible by unofficial means, this doesn't erase the fact they existed at all. Is how we know about legitimately no longer playable stuff like the BS-X games.
It's a global affair, NoE already tweeted the info.Already? How about the PAL regions?
Having seen the news that direct card payments will be stopping in May I'm feeling a lot more cheesed off about this news now, and feel pressure should absolutely be applied to Nintendo to backtrack. 3 months is not enough time for people to easily grab the content they want and ensure they have downloaded all they need, especially for people interested in game preservation.
If you're going to shut down a servive like this, you give people at least a years worth of notice. That was what irritated me with when Sony tried shutting down the PS3 store, and what's irritating me about this. I don't appreciate being told that I have an incredibly limited time to ensure I have secured all the content I want from these stores, and for these companies to simply shrug and say 'sorry not sorry' when called out on it.
Oh wow I didn't know they'd stopped card payments in the EU already. That's even worse.You'll still be able to add credit using a card either via the Switch or the Nintendo website, it's just a bit more of a faff. People in the EU have already had to be dealing with this problem for months now (they ended card payments rather than update the payment method on the 3DS for some new EU legislation)/
Very likely that wasn't an option in this case. The shutting down of credit card payments in EU was due to new laws requiring a sort of 2FA on credit card payments. Implementing that on 3DS and WiiU would very likely have been a less than trivial affair; especially on 3DS. Not even sure it would have been technically possible, period.Oh wow I didn't know they'd stopped card payments in the EU already. That's even worse.
It's just really not consumer friendly, like at all. If you're going to shut it down, instead of doing so in stages just have a definite end date well into the future to give everyone time to get things sorted, as opposed to a mad rush with only a couple months to get things sorted
I tried my local GameStop and they flat out said they no longer sell 3DS' in store. And Facebook marketplace has been a zoo.Try Gamestop
Same here. All my 70+ Switch games are digital.I've been going all digital for a while now - decisions like this make me question the wisdom of doing so.