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Can you link some stuff? I'm very interested lol.Have you seen his reactions to people complaining about Elden Ring stuff? He can be VERY childish.
Can you link some stuff? I'm very interested lol.Have you seen his reactions to people complaining about Elden Ring stuff? He can be VERY childish.
I was not privy to any of the messageboard drama, but the review itself very much does not premise itself on the game's writing being bad because it doesn't have a sweeping overarching story. it's more that the story that is there didn't work for him, which I agree with (and I much prefer mellower, slice of life style stories in my JRPGs)His reasoning for not being hot on the game is perfectly valid - even if I disagree with the premise that everything has to have a sweeping overarching story and must connect - but I get it that many peoples prefer that, and may not be too keen on small scale intimate slice of life style stories for rpgs.
Have you seen his reactions to people complaining about Elden Ring stuff? He can be VERY childish.
what are you basing this on, his resetera posts? his tweets are exceedingly normalSchreier being a petty brat? Perish the thought.
It is another PS console exclusiveBut that's not expected to be good is it? Unless VGC's review is going to be that Babylon's Fall is alongside Elden Ring in GOTY contention, VGC is likely to be down on the game along with everyone else.
At the end of the day, I guess it's hard for me to anticipate the mindset of ppl who get angry about reviews so I have no idea.
It is another PS console exclusive
Many headlines made the mistake of writing that exaggeration, but the actual quote was: "In terms of game mechanics, if we had conceived Bravely Default as an evolution of Final Fantasy V, we created Octopath Traveler as an evolution of the Final Fantasy VI system.”Square Enix themselves mentioned Final Fantasy VI in the marketing and were basically telling people "it's like that!" so I can understand people being upset when they were hoodwinked into playing a SaGa game.
He didn't like the first game. He was in the "why aren't people playing The Last Story instead?" camp. But he definitely hated 2 more.he didn't like Xenoblade 2, either, but I wouldn't characterize the review as whiny
(I'd read it again but the GMG union is striking, and I'm not trying to cross the picket line)
He went more in depth on it at the old place and on social media. It got real petty. He is a bit of a pompous jerk in general, so not shocking.I was not privy to any of the messageboard drama, but the review itself very much does not premise itself on the game's writing being bad because it doesn't have a sweeping overarching story. it's more that the story that is there didn't work for him, which I agree with (and I much prefer mellower, slice of life style stories in my JRPGs)
Fair enough, I'll own up to my mistake. I remember "it's a spiritual successor to FF6" being the main talk of the game for a good chunk of prelease but it seems it was just articles and not official marketing, so that's my bad.Many headlines made the mistake of writing that exaggeration, but the actual quote was: "In terms of game mechanics, if we had conceived Bravely Default as an evolution of Final Fantasy V, we created Octopath Traveler as an evolution of the Final Fantasy VI system.”
He didn't mention the story in this comparaison for a good reason.
Yeah, lots of things out of context. The game was pretty much closer to SaGa as someone mentioned, but I can see for sure the FF6 influence for the systems.Fair enough, I'll own up to my mistake. I remember "it's a spiritual successor to FF6" being the main talk of the game for a good chunk of prelease but it seems it was just articles and not official marketing, so that's my bad.
Aside from the sprites and world presentation there’s barely any FFVI. And there’s barely much SaGa. Game is a straight up love letter to 16-big JRPGs as a whole (including ones that didn’t release outside Japan originally) and draws on a number of different sources of inspiration that I think comparing it directly to any specific game does it a huge disservice.Yeah, lots of things out of context. The game was pretty much closer to SaGa as someone mentioned, but I can see for sure the FF6 influence for the systems.
king shit honestlyeven funnier is the guy in the comments returning year after year to dunk on it lol
I would be amazed if Babylon's Fall turned out good considering how awful the beta impressions were.
I would disagree. It definitely has inspiration from SaGa with the way story structure plays out like a mini play. That was my first thought playing through the game. Not saying it does not draw on other sources, because as you said, it is a love letter. But I can see the FF6 and SaGa on its sleeve, the former with the battle system being as he said an evolution, and the way the narrative structure is laid out.Aside from the sprites and world presentation there’s barely any FFVI. And there’s barely much SaGa. Game is a straight up love letter to 16-big JRPGs as a whole (including ones that didn’t release outside Japan originally) and draws on a number of different sources of inspiration that I think comparing it directly to any specific game does it a huge disservice.
When it involves investigative journalism about the gaming industry Schreier is one of the best, but when it comes down to gaming itself he's definitely a "my-way-or-the-highway" type of gamer which can rankle some people. I usually just ignore his gaming opinions since they tend to be the opposite of my own and read up on his investigative pieces.He went more in depth on it at the old place and on social media. It got real petty. He is a bit of a pompous jerk in general, so not shocking.
I would say that Octopath is more reminiscent of Live A Live then either SaGa or Final Fantasy.Octopath feels like a mixture between SaGa and Live a Live.
When it involves investigative journalism about the gaming industry Schreier is one of the best, but when it comes down to gaming itself he's definitely a "my-way-or-the-highway" type of gamer which can rankle some people. I usually just ignore his gaming opinions since they tend to be the opposite of my own and read up on his investigative pieces.
I agree with this. His opinions on certain games just feels entitled and whiny. If I don’t have anything nice to say about a certain game or series I really dislike I’m not going to bother others with it.When it involves investigative journalism about the gaming industry Schreier is one of the best, but when it comes down to gaming itself he's definitely a "my-way-or-the-highway" type of gamer which can rankle some people. I usually just ignore his gaming opinions since they tend to be the opposite of my own and read up on his investigative pieces.
VGC gave 3/5 to GT7 si I am expecting another low score review from them (even worse in fact).I would be amazed if Babylon's Fall turned out good considering how awful the beta impressions were.
I agree with this, but that's also hard to do since they're clearly influenced by 90s JRPGs. However, I think that if there's a Hollow Knight moment (where someone creates a modern 90s JRPG that's very well-received), then I think ppl will start comparing other games.While it is understandable considering the nature of Asano's games, I wish that at some point people would start judging them on their own merits instead of hoping that they were attempts at resurrecting mistreated FF titles under a different name. I'm already expecting disappointed comparisons to Final Fantasy Tactics lol
Won’t be Sea of Stars with how much they’re trying to draw attention to the Chrono Trigger influenceMaybe Triangle Strategy or Sea of Stars will be those games, but until then I expect everything to get compared to FF and Chrono Trigger.
Lol, touché. Someone said it earlier in the thread that it doesn't matter what the number on Metacritic is, this is gonna be a 9/10 game for me. With Eiyuden Chronicles, Dragon Quest 3 Remake, Live A Live, SacriFire, and Sea of Stars all coming in the future, ppl who are fans of these types of games will be well-served.Won’t be Sea of Stars with how much they’re trying to draw attention to the Chrono Trigger influence
So my experience with SaGa is pretty limited, the most I've played in the series was Frontier 1 and even then I didn't finish any of the stories. So maybe it's different with some of the other games? The ability to carry multiple weapon types and skills tied to weapons is very SaGa. But even then, the whole structure of playing through multiple stories for a crew of 8 characters is just as much Live A Live as it is SaGa Frontier, assuming you overlaid it with an open world reminiscent of older CRPGs like Might & Magic II where you're dropped into the world and left to your own devices.I would disagree. It definitely has inspiration from SaGa with the way story structure plays out like a mini play. That was my first thought playing through the game. Not saying it does not draw on other sources, because as you said, it is a love letter. But I can see the FF6 and SaGa on its sleeve, the former with the battle system being as he said an evolution, and the way the narrative structure is laid out.
I think what you touched upon, with skill progression, especially with magecite and how customizable it was in 6 with the skills you can have a character learn. Octopath obviously took it to a much more expansive level.So my experience with SaGa is pretty limited, the most I've played in the series was Frontier 1 and even then I didn't finish any of the stories. So maybe it's different with some of the other games? The ability to carry multiple weapon types and skills tied to weapons is very SaGa. But even then, the whole structure of playing through multiple stories for a crew of 8 characters is just as much Live A Live as it is SaGa Frontier, assuming you overlaid it with an open world reminiscent of older CRPGs like Might & Magic II where you're dropped into the world and left to your own devices.
I don't see how Break/Boost is at all an evolution on FFVI though. It's definitely an evolution over Brave/Default, but I just don't see how this really evolves the ATB battle system. Maybe they're talking about how skill progression works? But that isn't much different than how Chrono Trigger worked except now you can choose the order each character learns their skills, so I'm confused about what exactly they're referencing when they talk about an "evolution" here.
Have not see any info on it but I assume they are out today.reviews out today? i keep seeing this thread bumped and i think reviews are out, lol.
Not only a fantastic journalist, Schreier is also a fantastic writer imo. His review of FFXV might be the best game review I've ever read.Still, I think reviewers deserve more sympathy than criticism given how awful gamers can be. Schreier is a fantastic journalist at the end of the day. I hope Triangle Strategy does well. I agree it's too talky but the combat mechanics seem solid from the little I played.
Not to be a Debbie Downer, but Kotaku and all other G/O Media outlets are currently on strike and have asked readers to avoid the sites for now.A bit late on the party but I expect a good 80-85 on OC. Pros being the quality of the system and the art style and cons being that it's poorly written and have some so-so english VA.
Not only a fantastic journalist, Schreier is also a fantastic writer imo. His review of FFXV might be the best game review I've ever read.
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I think it's fine to have heterodox opinions on things. Not everyone can enjoy every popular thing. Especially as someones who plays a lot you'll eventually run into popular games you don't enjoy. Or you might find out that your preferences are just very niche. I don't think that makes your opinion awful, but your impressions are not applicable to many. I for one am a JRPG player who really doesn't like chatty games. I play JRPGs for their mechanics first and foremost, which is rather rare.Jason Schreier has universally awful opinions about JRPGs, so I'm not sure why people who are interested in JRPGs would dedicate much headspace to reading his opinion about this one.