- Pronouns
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I love the story of all 3 Xeno games, and my point was not "it's space magic who cares", but that you can easily go down the rabbit hole of "how" in sci-fi that is a losing battle. You say Xeno 1's backstory is fine because "they were messing with powers beyond their control", but that doesn't actually explain how there is a conduit of infinite space power? Who built it? How did it end up in Klaus's dimension? Something made the conduit in the Xenoblade universe, meaning other people should be able to make things similar to it. Ultimately all those questions aren't relevant to the story XC1-2 are trying to tell, they're just a back story to set up the world to explore the themes and characters the writer wants to dive into.No, this is just flat wrong. The entire premise is based around the fact that humans were messing with a power from dimensions beyond our control, and playing god. The result was a massive annihilation of earth and the monkey paw of a "new universe" that didn't turn out the way the scientist expected. There's nothing "nonsensical" about it.
You're falling into the same trap of confusing a "fantasy element" with "nonsense". Just because something doesn't exist in real life doesn't mean it doesn't have to make sense at all.
This type of premise is a tried and true story that's been told in the sci-fi genre forever.
Like I said in my previous comment, the only challenge I ever seem to get on my criticism of 3's story is "well, 1 and 2 were just as bad!" which is frankly bullshit.
Edit: what annoys me about this type of response (of which you're not the first to give me) is it's the same mindset of people who respond to criticism of the Star Wars movies with "it's just a kids movie about space wizards!" which is disingenuous and limits discussion.
So now we get to Xenoblade 3, which takes place an unknown amount of years after the events of Xenoblade 1 & 2, where their own advances in technology mixed with a chance meeting and exchanging of ideas allows them to create origin. Why were they able to make Origin? Well in a universe where it's established people somehow made the Conduit a perpetual energy machine, a giant data storage device like Origin seems logical. Ultimately the how isn't really important, the main thing that matters for the themes and story xc3 wants to tell is they were able to do it. I think that Origin is basically a giant core crystal, and from before the events of Xenoblade 2 half of Klaus was able to use that tech to make titans and blades. Give the world of Xenoblade 2 time with Klaus's research, mixed with some additional knowledge from Xenoblade 1, and yeah I think the two worlds combine could basically make a giant core crystal in Origin.
Also I think the obvious Z = Zanza parallel isn't brought up anywhere near as much as it should. Zanza in XC1 created a cycle of death and rebirth that would perpetuate his own life, he created this cycle out of a fear of a future where his creations would leave him which would cause his death. I think it's thematically very appropriate for that same fear to manifest itself inside of Origin from Zanza's creations in the form of Z/Moebius, who has the exact same goal.