It will sold as same as today. Coz nintendo already put pressure on competitive communities 10 yeas ago, its not new.
Yes they are aimed at small tournaments but the restrictions make it effectively impossible to run most events. If entry fees are capped at $20 per person (and tournaments aren't able to find funding via sponsors, food/merch sales, or streaming revenue) then very few in-person events will be able to offer cash prizes and few tournaments will be able to afford to run at all.
People don't realize events like these already tend to be a net negative financially. Now it's just asking to go bankrupt.
IMO it's caused online play to become extremely toxic and devs to cater to competitive play instead of making the game actually fun. It's the reason I fell off of Fortnite. I'd just be trying to play normally and someone would build a fort in front of me in three seconds. I'm also tired of players begging devs to fix "broken" characters like Steve in Smash, just let them be broken it's fun. Not to mention the competitive scene tends to have a lot of... problematic individuals. This is a kids video game company. Just play it to have fun instead of trying to be the best at it.
You can always ignore it as it doesn't affect you. Competitive Smash players don't give a fuck about casual smash fans and vice versa. Siding with a corporation to kill a community because you don't like how they interact with a game differently then you is extremely petty and childish.
These people will exist no matter organized competitive scene or not. That's not an issue caused by grassroots tournaments or anything like that.
Do you think the new policies will increase sales of the next Smash game relative to prior expectations? If the Nintendo Ninja materialize irl and start breaking the hands of top competitive players, how would that affect Smash 7's revenues?
No, i think it may even decrease the sales a bit, but this factor is too small compare with the factor of NG console sales. IMO I understand that Nintendo want to make the game look "casual"(if they really think like this), but they have better way to do this, like adding more COOP or single player gameplay, to make the game less "competitive", like splatoon did, rather than crushing the communities.
Don't nobody gives a shit about those two games to do that.
I posted this earlier in the thread when it was just the Japanese version available, but now that I've read through the English one I wanted to ask again - didn't big tournaments need a license until now anyways? I don't think this changes much for them if that's the case.
Spoken like someone truly unfamiliar with the Melee scene and Nintendos stance. The answer to your question is unironically yes.
When it's a community known to be extremely toxic and hostile (not to mention some members are even worse than that), especially recently, I don't care that I'm "siding with a corporation". And no, I can't ignore it. I play online multiplayer and it's enjoyable when it's not filled with try-hards. And the competitive scene actually affects how developers make games.
Nintendo has turned down high school charity Melee events?
Damn spoken like a true bootlicker. You’ll get toxic people in multiplayer games regardless if it’s competitive or not.
Are we not discussing the ramifications of the newly released guidelines which will be effective November 15th?
So that's a no then?
This…just came out today.
So you can't definitively say these guidelines kill high school charity events.
I’m saying there’s a legal line here that isn’t there with every other company. If you do a CTRL F search for “charity” on other community license guidelines for games like Rocket League or Street Fighter it isn’t there. Only Nintendo requires you to have a license to legally run the tourney.
You're making an assumption on something that hasn't been specifically put to a test yet.
It's not so much as it kills them as it requires them to jump through hoops before they can happen.
We’re already past the point of discussing enforcement, not sure why you’re stuck on that. Of course Nintendo isn’t going to enforce this for every little school club tourney! But why does the law even exist? By the way if you look on Twitter it’s not just me saying these guidelines are asinine, in case you were unaware. Everyone thinks they're overboard.
Nintendo can't make laws, they can just enforce a EULA, and it's a waste of their time, money, and resources to go after any and every little gathering of people to play a game. You're fine to criticize their actions, but you seem to be pitching some unrealistic scenarios like the hypothetical in that tweet, and then getting preemptively mad about them, and criticizing others for not feeling the same way.
OK, are you talking about the Japanese laws that spurred the changes or the rule/guideline changes?
I don't think this applies to larger tournaments like Smashcon for example. According to Nintendo they have their own process
They came out with an EU version of the guidelines and most expect NA to follow suit as a result in the near future.
Yeah, I meant more similarly large tournaments that are currently outside of that process. Something that has enough eyes on it, they'll either want to put their own guidelines on, like in your example, or be sure and clear it is not sanctioned by them.
EU version is different as it allows prize money while the Japanese one doesn't though so they aren't one for one
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No sponsors is extremely unreasonable and makes the events impossible to run in a lot of cases.
Any event large enough to need sponsors won't be a "community tournament" under these guidelines and will have their own separate licenses with Nintendo, which is how all the big tournaments currently run AFAIK.
wouldn't an event that need sponsors be under different guidelines according to Nintendo?
). Nintendo always go out if their way to stay out of unnecessary trouble.
