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Now that’s a game that makes sense for phones. Will there be a console equivalent though…
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Yeah I think it's already based on an existing patent, but I can't find it right now.I feel like I've seen this exact picture before, I'm confused
First I've heard of this app. Interesting!As I said on Era, could this just be something from Pocket Camp? Kazuyoshi Sensui and others are attached to that patent.
As I said on Era, could this just be something from Pocket Camp? Kazuyoshi Sensui and others are attached to that patent.
Yeah I think it's already based on an existing patent, but I can't find it right now.
This was actually for Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp. The staff matches up and here’s a video of it.
The JP patent was filed a year earlier.
It's based on a Japanese patent application filed in November 2020 a few days before the AR feature was added, so yeah.It didn’t even come to mind because the AR features of Pocket Camp were added in 2020 but you’re right; the patent is very similar to that implementation.
This thread may have been a false alarm in that case; not opposed to a lock if this is our conclusion.
Hey, why only dogs and cats? At a minimum, Nintendogs 3 should have bunnies too!Have cats at launch and I'm sold!
Hope this is what the Mario Kart team's been working away on!
Most people think Switch 2 will be a Switch with enhanced graphics, but I think re-introducing at least a camera and a mic is a top priority for Nintendo (perhaps as part of the Joycons?). Their "core" games might make minimal use of such features, but they are vital for series such as Nintendogs. Brain Training Switch already feels limited without a mic. Animal Crossing and Miitopia would be better games if they supported scanning QR Codes (AC does, by using your mobile phone as an external camera, but having it integrated with the hardware would be more convenient).I wonder if the Switch 2 will come with more handheld features such as cameras.
So far Nintendo has explored the idea of a console you can take with you, but there are many equally exciting possibilities in the idea of bringing the handheld experience to the big screen.
Think of importing pictures and other data from the outside world into your games for example.
Yeah I'm having the same issue here, they seem to be claiming a generic process for augmented reality. I don't think this will hold up in court.honestly, why is this a patent at all? thats just how ar works?
or am i missing something?
I think there's definitely a case to be made for adding more handheld features to the next Switch, but there's also a case for relying on better software interfacing with mobile devices to accomplish these goals. It's a balancing act between functionality and form factor, cost and complexity and appealing to different audiences, for sure.Hey, why only dogs and cats? At a minimum, Nintendogs 3 should have bunnies too!
Most people think Switch 2 will be a Switch with enhanced graphics, but I think re-introducing at least a camera and a mic is a top priority for Nintendo (perhaps as part of the Joycons?). Their "core" games might make minimal use of such features, but they are vital for series such as Nintendogs. Brain Training Switch already feels limited without a mic. Animal Crossing and Miitopia would be better games if they supported scanning QR Codes (AC does, by using your mobile phone as an external camera, but having it integrated with the hardware would be more convenient).
to be honest i have seen so many random pointless or plain stupid patents in IT, where companies claim to have reinvented the wheel.Yeah I'm having the same issue here, they seem to be claiming a generic process for augmented reality. I don't think this will hold up in court.
Welcome to the world of software parents.honestly, why is this a patent at all? thats just how ar works?
or am i missing something?
It’s worth noting that a front-facing camera and a mic array wouldn’t necessarily be handheld-exclusive features. Nintendo experimented with mics next to TVs as a method of voice chat with Wii Speak and with video chat with Wii U; they may want to revisit one or both of those ideas as a way to enable connection in the post-covid era.I think there's definitely a case to be made for adding more handheld features to the next Switch, but there's also a case for relying on better software interfacing with mobile devices to accomplish these goals. It's a balancing act between functionality and form factor, cost and complexity and appealing to different audiences, for sure.
microphone arrays that cut out background noise has come a long way, so maybe they will try to do that.It’s worth noting that a front-facing camera and a mic array wouldn’t necessarily be handheld-exclusive features. Nintendo experimented with mics next to TVs as a method of voice chat with Wii Speak and with video chat with Wii U; they may want to revisit one or both of those ideas as a way to enable connection in the post-covid era.
I don’t think the Switch’s current voice chat setup is Nintendo’s vision for the future, but I also don’t think Nintendo sees the answer as a Nintendo-branded headset. I think Nintendo would want to bypass the need for a headset.
I will say that the 3DS was just a pretty poor fit for AR in a lot of ways. It was a dual-screen device with two small screens, and also it had a clamshell design and the part you held was not parallel with the cameras in the same way AR is on a phone or tablet (or would be on a Switch), so you were always sort of awkwardly “aiming” the cameras and looking through a little porthole rather than just holding a tablet up.if they feel like they can do a lot with ar i could see it, but even tho the 3DS had ar capability, it never really took of in regards to software.
Yeah, no, the "metaverse" isn't really worthwhile, investment wise. That bubble popped months ago. However, AR and VR content will continue to evolve and improve, and Nintendo's always shown an interest in such technologies, so this isn't surprising to me.Yes, that makes sense.
I can see Nintendo invest into AR and also as into making assets for the metaverse. They have such solid IPs that they can easily sell new tech to their customers with them.
Well, it depends on how you define the metaverse.Yeah, no, the "metaverse" isn't really worthwhile, investment wise. That bubble popped months ago. However, AR and VR content will continue to evolve and improve, and Nintendo's always shown an interest in such technologies, so this isn't surprising to me.
oh,for sure, but even then they could have done more. but i also think that they where restricted in the processing power to get the AR to work great (but then, they had stereo camera setup making depth sensing easier then a mono camera AR solution most phones use)I will say that the 3DS was just a pretty poor fit for AR in a lot of ways. It was a dual-screen device with two small screens, and also it had a clamshell design and the part you held was not parallel with the cameras in the same way AR is on a phone or tablet (or would be on a Switch), so you were always sort of awkwardly “aiming” the cameras and looking through a little porthole rather than just holding a tablet up.
In general, the history of Nintendo’s controller innovation has been them adding more and more ways of sensing to their devices – analog sticks, motion controls, touch screens – with cameras and mics being a rare example of a “sense” they’ve removed. I wouldn’t bet on them being gone forever.
The problem with this line of thinking is that Switch 2 needs to cost significantly less than a smartphone. I'm not against adding a camera, microphones, etc. But these all add to the BoM and increase complexity. At some point it makes more sense to spend resources developing an interface with devices that are ubiquitous and perform many of these functions better.It’s worth noting that a front-facing camera and a mic array wouldn’t necessarily be handheld-exclusive features. Nintendo experimented with mics next to TVs as a method of voice chat with Wii Speak and with video chat with Wii U; they may want to revisit one or both of those ideas as a way to enable connection in the post-covid era.
I don’t think the Switch’s current voice chat setup is Nintendo’s vision for the future, but I also don’t think Nintendo sees the answer as a Nintendo-branded headset. I think Nintendo would want to bypass the need for a headset.
May I interest you in Mozilla Firefox?Well, it depends on how you define the metaverse.
At its simplest, the metaverse is just that a platform to help users navigate the data in the internet. That can be done through VR or AR or the usual interfaces. In that sense, Pokémon Go is already an set of assets and a product in the metaverse provided by Nintendo.
But I realize that I used a fuzzy word. My bad. Let's rather move on.
Yes, that makes sense.
I can see Nintendo invest into AR and also as into making assets for the metaverse. They have such solid IPs that they can easily sell new tech to their customers with them.
Yeah, no, the "metaverse" isn't really worthwhile, investment wise. That bubble popped months ago. However, AR and VR content will continue to evolve and improve, and Nintendo's always shown an interest in such technologies, so this isn't surprising to me.
Well, it depends on how you define the metaverse.
At its simplest, the metaverse is just that a platform to help users navigate the data in the internet. That can be done through VR or AR or the usual interfaces. In that sense, Pokémon Go is already an set of assets and a product in the metaverse provided by Nintendo.
But I realize that I used a fuzzy word. My bad. Let's rather move on.
May I interest you in Mozilla Firefox?
IIRC Miitomo had a similar function I think?It didn’t even come to mind because the AR features of Pocket Camp were added in 2020 but you’re right; the patent is very similar to that implementation.
This thread may have been a false alarm in that case; not opposed to a lock if this is our conclusion.
This would be such a hitWould love a new Nintendogs with a phone companion app, one of the games Switch needs before Switch 2
Miitomo did not have such function, but you could take a real-life picture and use them to make Mii photos in the Miifoto option anyway, so that's the closest thing to this.IIRC Miitomo had a similar function I think?
The original Japanese patent application was filed in 2020 so that adds upIt didn’t even come to mind because the AR features of Pocket Camp were added in 2020 but you’re right; the patent is very similar to that implementation.
This thread may have been a false alarm in that case; not opposed to a lock if this is our conclusion.