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Colourdy buttons galore!I think for product differentiation alone, it's a safe bet.
And likely extra thickness for grips, likely a little longer to suit the larger screen, and a little wider for comfort.
Colourdy buttons galore!I think for product differentiation alone, it's a safe bet.
I think it's a pretty safe bet anyways but I'm really hoping for better ergonomics. The Switch is just a bit too... rectangularColourdy buttons galore!
And likely extra thickness for grips, likely a little longer to suit the larger screen, and a little wider for comfort.
Exactly.I agree with this completely, there's so many details we aren't currently aware with Drake. I do believe that memory latency issues are a concern in the industry, If they weren't we wouldn't have companies using expensive solutions like large on die caches. Us trying to get a rough idea of how Drake will perform by comparing to desktop RTX is flawed as well because this will be the very first Ampere based SoC dedicated to gaming.
You mean scrolling capacitive shoulder buttons-Don't forget the all but confirmed, willed into existence by me, Scrollwheel Shoulderbuttons.
Those alone should make difference enough that even the average consumers notice the difference!
;D
I mean, by 2030/2031/2032, we'll be looking at LPDDR7 already.Nintendo should embrace full sicko for the Switch 3 and do four sticks of LPDDR6X RAM.
Make an even bigger boy.
You mean scrolling capacitive shoulder buttons-
WOO, SHOULDER BUTTON UNITY.Sure, as long as they're shoulderbuttons that scroll.
Only your second hypothetical is somewhat plausible otherwise I doubt Nintendo sees early leaks as anything other than a nuisance rather than a big problem impacting their business.I don't know if this is the place to talk about it but I'm starting to get a bad feeling about all those game early leaks.
Even if it's not threating their business (yet?), It is probably becoming a huge deal for Nintendo. Zelda and now Mario leaking 1 week in advance, playable in a somehow 'better version'... it is terrible. I hate it, I can't even imagine Nintendo's state of mind.
So I wonder how those leaks could negatively impact Switch NG (and how it could explain some of the last unwelcome and sometime absurd rumors).
- Since the leaks come from game cartridges, there is obviously an easy fix for that. They have now a new incentive to speed up the transition toward full-digital ( => 2 different SKUs at launch?).
- Since the OG hardware is compromised, to start afresh on a healthy footing, we could have a more abrupt transition toward NG. More exclusives, no transition stage.
- And that leads to a more hypothetical 'threat' but what about BC? If they somehow burn the technical bridge between the 2 hardware, would it make emulation more difficult?
Sorry to sound like a nintendoomer, I just trying to explore some of the worst scenario to see if it has some weight to it. My brain does that, please send help.
I don't think the possibility of a game leaking early will change any of their plans, it will sell millions regardless.I don't know if this is the place to talk about it but I'm starting to get a bad feeling about all those game early leaks.
Even if it's not threating their business (yet?), It is probably becoming a huge deal for Nintendo. Zelda and now Mario leaking 1 week in advance, playable in a somehow 'better version'... it is terrible. I hate it, I can't even imagine Nintendo's state of mind.
So I wonder how those leaks could negatively impact Switch NG (and how it could explain some of the last unwelcome and sometime absurd rumors).
- Since the leaks come from game cartridges, there is obviously an easy fix for that. They have now a new incentive to speed up the transition toward full-digital ( => 2 different SKUs at launch?).
- Since the OG hardware is compromised, to start afresh on a healthy footing, we could have a more abrupt transition toward NG. More exclusives, no transition stage.
- And that leads to a more hypothetical 'threat' but what about BC? If they somehow burn the technical bridge between the 2 hardware, would it make emulation more difficult?
Sorry to sound like a nintendoomer, I just trying to explore some of the worst scenario to see if it has some weight to it. My brain does that, please send help.
Devs are getting payed the exact same regardless, I doubt they're loosing sleep over it.I don't think the possibility of a game leaking early will change any of their plans, it will sell millions regardless.
I know it's bad for the devs for worked on the title but all they can do is hope for better security on NG.
Gameplay leaks are still going to happen if gamecards are still a thing, remember the SMO ones when the huge exploit was not released?
This is what will happen. Nintendo will fix everything that went wrong with Switch and Tegra security and will make things super tight so that the system isn't easily hacked. A secure system will mean that once the transition is finished, emulators, piracy, etc will be a non-issue for Nintendo and their partners.Since the OG hardware is compromised, to start afresh on a healthy footing, we could have a more abrupt transition toward NG. More exclusives, no transition stage.
Sakurai took the Smash leak pretty bad iirc.Devs are getting payed the exact same regardless, I doubt they're loosing sleep over it.
Sakurai is a rare breed. To the average programmer/ designer etc its a day job.Sakurai took the Smash leak pretty bad iirc.
I don't know if this is the place to talk about it but I'm starting to get a bad feeling about all those game early leaks.
Even if it's not threating their business (yet?), It is probably becoming a huge deal for Nintendo. Zelda and now Mario leaking 1 week in advance, playable in a somehow 'better version'... it is terrible. I hate it, I can't even imagine Nintendo's state of mind.
So I wonder how those leaks could negatively impact Switch NG (and how it could explain some of the last unwelcome and sometime absurd rumors).
- Since the leaks come from game cartridges, there is obviously an easy fix for that. They have now a new incentive to speed up the transition toward full-digital ( => 2 different SKUs at launch?).
- Since the OG hardware is compromised, to start afresh on a healthy footing, we could have a more abrupt transition toward NG. More exclusives, no transition stage.
- And that leads to a more hypothetical 'threat' but what about BC? If they somehow burn the technical bridge between the 2 hardware, would it make emulation more difficult?
Sorry to sound like a nintendoomer, I just trying to explore some of the worst scenario to see if it has some weight to it. My brain does that, please send help.
early game leaks online have been around since the game boy advance days and Nintendo has been fineI don't know if this is the place to talk about it but I'm starting to get a bad feeling about all those game early leaks.
Even if it's not threating their business (yet?), It is probably becoming a huge deal for Nintendo. Zelda and now Mario leaking 1 week in advance, playable in a somehow 'better version'... it is terrible. I hate it, I can't even imagine Nintendo's state of mind.
So I wonder how those leaks could negatively impact Switch NG (and how it could explain some of the last unwelcome and sometime absurd rumors).
- Since the leaks come from game cartridges, there is obviously an easy fix for that. They have now a new incentive to speed up the transition toward full-digital ( => 2 different SKUs at launch?).
- Since the OG hardware is compromised, to start afresh on a healthy footing, we could have a more abrupt transition toward NG. More exclusives, no transition stage.
- And that leads to a more hypothetical 'threat' but what about BC? If they somehow burn the technical bridge between the 2 hardware, would it make emulation more difficult?
Sorry to sound like a nintendoomer, I just trying to explore some of the worst scenario to see if it has some weight to it. My brain does that, please send help.
early game leaks online have been around since the game boy advance days and Nintendo has been fine
The leaks of today have significantly more impact than the leaks from the old days.early game leaks online have been around since the game boy advance days and Nintendo has been fine
This comes off as tad dismissive towards the creators in this field. Game development doesn't pay that well and there are plenty of passionate artists within the industry. If you have the development skills to work on a game, you'll earn more and have healthier work life balance doing "traditional" development work.Sakurai is a rare breed. To the average programmer/ designer etc its a day job.
Early copies of games are only able to reach pirate sites so efficiently due to hacked Switches being relatively common. Without an easy entry point, it should be significantly slowed.The leaks of today have significantly more impact than the leaks from the old days.
Those who pirate the game now, would likely have pirated the game regardless. And many of them would not have played the game at all for full price.This comes off as tad dismissive towards the creators in this field. Game development doesn't pay that well and there are plenty of passionate artists within the industry. If you have the development skills to work on a game, you'll earn more and have healthier work life balance doing "traditional" development work.
There's no way a leaked game doesn't leave multiple people on the dev team disappointed.
and why exactly is that people could still emulate stuff early even back in the day i would even say back then it was worse cause stuff like GameCube sold not so great compared to switch so it would get less sales with switch the games will sell well regardless cause its so popularThe leaks of today have significantly more impact than the leaks from the old days.
This comes off as tad dismissive towards the creators in this field. Game development doesn't pay that well and there are plenty of passionate artists within the industry. If you have the development skills to work on a game, you'll earn more and have healthier work life balance doing "traditional" development work.
There's no way a leaked game doesn't leave multiple people on the dev team disappointed.
Where does this narrative come from that people who want to play leaked games hate Nintendo? They could just want to play the game early cause they cant wait for it. Like if they are willing to go for a leak I would think they are big fans of the games for the most partI, for one, welcome our DRM overlords!
I'm sick and tired of my experience being ruined by morally challenged halfwits who have a chip on their shoulder because Nintendo ran over their dog allegedly.
I disagree when the DS and PSP existedThe leaks of today have significantly more impact than the leaks from the old days.
Yes! Where's the RTX 2050 Testing Digital Foundry. I need itEnough talk about game leaks.
How about ReDraketed leaks?
I think that's a big crux of the issue. I remember tons of Switch games where people played on emulators and accused the game of being faulty, whether the performance or graphical bugs.I imagine game designers would be more concerned with something like a wide swath of the audience playing the game in a way you didn't intend (which happens all the time, by the nature of how video games work), if you're the kind of person to get hung up on how people experience the art you created.
In the final edit. I did a technical review of a rough edit over the weekend, Rich said it's coming this week.Yes! Where's the RTX 2050 Testing Digital Foundry. I need it
Oh, thanks for the reply! That's awesome. I can't wait to see it!In the final edit. I did a technical review of a rough edit over the weekend, Rich said it's coming this week.
It requires someone to go through the effort of doing one of these 2 things.Nintendo doesn't have to wait a new generation to do digital early access or introduce online DRM or something else.
Given how much they care about it, they very likely have projections saying any harsh measure would hurt sales more than piracy is doing right now.
And considering the Switch generation is their most profitable generation ever, piracy is very likely not hurting that much, unlike what flash carts did to the DS.
5X is not an efficiency win though. It's able to be clocked higher, but at the cost of power consumption (unlike 4X which is more power efficient than 4).I don’t know why I have an obsession with RAM but I do. I’m really hoping we get 5X instead of just 5. Whenever NG was planned, and it seems they always planned for a 2024 release, surely Nintendo knew there would be a RAM revision by that time. LPDDR5 came out (all the way back) in 2020, and it seems tape out was in 2022, even after 5X was announced. During planning, couldn’t Samsung have dropped the hint that 5X would be widespread by 2024? It just seems that, barring a high price, 5X should be the obvious choice for a H2 2024 device.
But I thought 5X (and 5, apparently) went through a node reduction recently?5X is not an efficiency win though. It's able to be clocked higher, but at the cost of power consumption (unlike 4X which is more power efficient than 4).
So it may not be that attractive to Nintendo for that reason.
It's gonna be close.. we'll see. Hopefully 408 GB/s will be enough, unless they got with 256 but and we get 816..I mean, by 2030/2031/2032, we'll be looking at LPDDR7 already.
SameI don’t know why I have an obsession with RAM but I do. I’m really hoping we get 5X instead of just 5. Whenever NG was planned, and it seems they always planned for a 2024 release, surely Nintendo knew there would be a RAM revision by that time. LPDDR5 came out (all the way back) in 2020, and it seems tape out was in 2022, even after 5X was announced. During planning, couldn’t Samsung have dropped the hint that 5X would be widespread by 2024? It just seems that, barring a high price, 5X should be the obvious choice for a H2 2024 device.
But I thought 5X (and 5, apparently) went through a node reduction recently?
This article I googled (reputable? I dunno) said that Samsung did claim a power efficiency boost as well as performance. This was back in 2021, and claimed 5X was on 14nm EUV node. Greek to me, but said 20% less power.
Samsung starts mass manufacturing LPDDR5X memory, paving the way for mobile devices with up to 64 GB of RAM
Back in August 2020, Samsung started mass producing 16 Gb LPDDR5 DRAM at the world's largest semiconductor line, opening the possibility of cramming up to 16 gigabytes...www.techspot.com
The power efficiency is due to being fabbed on a newer node compared to LPDDR5. Samsung and others will probably move LPDDR5 to the same node as 5X later.Double post, but from Samsung itself:
Samsung Develops Industry’s First LPDDR5X DRAM | Samsung Semiconductor Global
Samsung's LPDDR5X DRAM is designed to drive further growth throughout the high-speed data service applications including 5G, artificial intelligence (AI) and the metaverse.semiconductor.samsung.com
I don't know. I seen it repeated in this thread that it's not an efficiency win, so I assumed it was true.Double post, but from Samsung itself:
Samsung Develops Industry’s First LPDDR5X DRAM | Samsung Semiconductor Global
Samsung's LPDDR5X DRAM is designed to drive further growth throughout the high-speed data service applications including 5G, artificial intelligence (AI) and the metaverse.semiconductor.samsung.com
Ring Fit Adventure and Labo have no digital versions. Nintendo Switch Sports has a digital version, on the other hand.Yes, Switch cartridges do exist, but I believe I’m correct in saying that every single Switch title has a digital version on the eShop. You don’t need cartridge slots to maintain BC. It just makes it frustrating for collectors, and fans of physical media is all.
Long term it's hard to believe any business relationship is permanent.Do people realistically believe Nintendo is gonna move on from Nvidia in the long term ?
Same, but after some digging I found those articles. I’m going to be cautiously optimistic and hope for 5X again… until someone with more info will dash my hopes.I don't know. I seen it repeated in this thread that it's not an efficiency win, so I assumed it was true.