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Sales Data Famitsu Sales: Week 52+53, 2023 (Dec. 18-31)

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Famitsu Sales: Week 52+53, 2023 (Dec 18 - Dec 31)​

Software​

1st Switch Super Mario Bros. Wonder
221,738 (total 1,549,401) / Nintendo / October 20, 2023

2nd Switch Momotaro Dentetsu World Electric Railway ~The earth revolves around hope! ~
192,620 (total 795,681) / KONAMI / November 16, 2023

3rd Switch Pikmin 4
78,589 (total 1,119,027) / Nintendo / July 21, 2023

4th Switch Dragon Quest Monsters 3 Journey of the Demon Prince and the Elf
77,035 (total 510,477) / Square Enix / December 1, 2023

5th PS5 Marvel's Spider-Man 2 (Spider-Man 2)
53,238 (total 166,731) / Sony Interactive Entertainment / October 20, 2023

6th Switch Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
46,452 (total 5,631,598) / Nintendo / April 28, 2017

7th Switch Minecraft
38,472 (total 3,394,222) / Microsoft Japan / June 21, 2018

8th Switch Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
38,005 (total 5,400,275) / Nintendo / December 7, 2018

9th Switch Wario Ware: Move It!
37,147 (total 141,554) / Nintendo / November 3, 2023

10th Switch Pokemon Scarlet & Violet
35,679 (total 5,246,363) / Pokemon / November 18, 2022

Hardware​

  • Switch - 29,391 (total 19,684,424)
  • Switch Lite - 31,547 (total 5,674,074)
  • Switch Oled - 107,928 (total 6,428,158)
  • PS5 - 72,207 (total 4,298,170)
  • PS5 Digital Edition - 9,736 (total 666,687)
  • Xbox Series X - 554 (total 244,984)
  • Xbox Series S - 605 (total 295,123)
  • PS4 - 1,119 (total 7,915,336)
  • New Nintendo 2DS LL - 34 (total 1,192,744)

Combined Hardware​

  • Switch Family- 168,866 (total 31,786,656)
  • PS5 + PS5 DE - 81,943 (total 4,964,857)
  • Xbox Series X+S - 1,159 (total 540,107)
  • PS4 + PS4 Pro - 1,119 (total 9,491,059)
  • 3DS Family - 34 (total 24,600,930)

2023 Total​

  • Switch Family- 4,062,609
  • PS5 + PS5 DE - 2,587,468
  • Xbox Series X+S - 141,712
  • PS4 + PS4 Pro - 73,292
  • 3DS Family - 3,033
 
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Software looking good (especially Mario Wonder), hardware not as good even though it's the holiday season, but still it's something expected from previous weeks.
 
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NSW & PS5 yearly hardware sales comparison
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    • i’m tired of being a debby downer, but this just isn’t that great, again!

    SMBW did alright i suppose, good to see it ramped up to possibly two 100k+ weeks. kind of wished pikmin 4 did 100k+ combined, though really that game has nothing to prove anymore since it’s already done so well. SMRPG being that low is very unfortunate.

    most interesting of all is probably DQM. seems they didn’t get stock out in time? but as we saw on year-end digital charts with it being so high, it seems like it did very well overall.

    switch HW either didn’t do a single 100k week or only one. either way, not great even for it being in its twilight years. (need to say that since people love to point it out as a consolation prize.)
     
    rêverie said:
    switch HW either didn’t do a single 100k week or only one. either way, not great even for it being in its twilight years. (need to say that since people love to point it out as a consolation prize.)
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    PS2's first holiday season without a 100K week was late 2005, a year earlier than Switch and the year before PS3 dropped. DS did have 100+K weeks (and a 200+K week) on its sixth holiday season shortly before 3DS's launch, but it's a pretty glass half empty measure if failing to hit DS highs is Not Great.
     
    everyone dooming about the switch but look at those ps5 numbers 😬. on paper it has a great lineup of games and unlimited third party support but it's barely limping above 80k on what should be it's peak year. the switch 2 is gonna hit like the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs.
     
    Even though I’m slightly disappointed by Switch numbers I forget that it managed to sell 4 million in its 7th year on the market.

    i think Switch will decline a lot this year, a tad below 2 million. Not bring on the Switch 2
     
    thoughthaver said:
    everyone dooming about the switch but look at those ps5 numbers 😬. on paper it has a great lineup of games and unlimited third party support but it's barely limping above 80k on what should be it's peak year. the switch 2 is gonna hit like the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs.
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    Hiking up the price did/will not do it any favors
     
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    MilkyChance said:
    My gawd! Is it safe to say that the Switch will break the Nintendo DS LTD record this year? Switch is consistently over 3 mil a year is insane!
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    It’s possible. It hasn’t reached launch years levels of sales due to a drop. What could help is a price drop
     
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    Famitsu Sales: Week 52, 2023 (Dec 18 - Dec 24)

    01./01. [NSW] Super Mario Bros. Wonder <ACT> (Nintendo) {2023.10.20} (¥5.980) - 156.304 / 1.483.967 <80-100%> (+65%)
    02./02. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu World: Chikyuu wa Kibou de Mawatteru! <TBL> (Konami) {2023.11.16} (¥6.300) - 102.624 / 705.685 <60-80%> (+64%)
    03./04. [NSW] Pikmin 4 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2023.07.21} (¥5.980) - 60.982 / 1.101.420 <80-100%> (+75%)
    04./03. [NSW] Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark Prince # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2023.12.01} (¥6.980) - 38.460 / 471.902 <80-100%> (+9%)
    05./00. [PS5] Marvel's Spider-Man 2 # <ACT> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2023.10.20} (¥8.164) - 32.255 / 145.748 <40-60%>
    06./08. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 29.468 / 5.614.614 <80-100%> (+80%)
    07./06. [NSW] Minecraft # <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600) - 27.752 / 3.383.502 <80-100%> (+63%)
    08./09. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200) - 27.290 / 5.389.560 <80-100%> (+85%)
    09./07. [NSW] WarioWare: Move It! <ETC> (Nintendo) {2023.11.03} (¥4.980) - 26.673 / 131.080 <60-80%> (+61%)
    10./11. [NSW] Pokemon Scarlet / Violet # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2022.11.18} (¥5.980) - 24.433 / 5.235.117 <80-100%> (+84%)
    11./05. [NSW] Super Mario RPG <RPG> (Nintendo) {2023.11.17} (¥5.980) - 23.889 / 438.080 <80-100%> (+38%)
    12./10. [NSW] Pokemon Scarlet / Violet + The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2023.11.03} (¥9.162) - 23.330 / 64.552 <40-60%> (+73%)
    13./00. [NSW] Spy x Anya: Operation Memories # <ADV> (Bandai Namco Entertainment) {2023.12.21} (¥6.800) - 20.652 / NEW <60-80%>
    14./00. [PS5] Baldur's Gate III <RPG> (Spike Chunsoft) {2023.12.21} (¥7.800) - 20.497 / NEW <60-80%>
    15./12. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2020.03.20} (¥5.980) - 20.395 / 7.634.030 <80-100%> (+63%)
    16./13. [NSW] Splatoon 3 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2022.09.09} (¥5.980) - 20.173 / 4.183.201 <80-100%> (+98%)
    17./15. [NSW] Taiko no Tatsujin: Rhythm Festival <ACT> (Bandai Namco Entertainment) {2022.09.22} (¥5.980) - 17.615 / 271.178 <80-100%> (+87%)
    18./14. [NSW] Jinsei Game for Nintendo Switch <TBL> (Takara Tomy) {2023.10.06} (¥6.000) - 17.503 / 129.411 <60-80%> (+75%)
    19./19. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2023.05.12} (¥7.200) - 13.998 / 1.922.513 <80-100%> (+89%)
    20./20. [NSW] Mario Party Superstars <ETC> (Nintendo) {2021.10.29} (¥5.980) - 13.425 / 1.362.591 <80-100%> (+86%)
    21./17. [NSW] Super Mario Party # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} (¥5.980) - 13.303 / 2.224.725 <80-100%> (+57%)
    22./18. [NSW] Nintendo Switch Sports # <SPT> (Nintendo) {2022.04.29} (¥4.980) - 12.691 / 1.237.870 <80-100%> (+61%)
    23./22. [NSW] Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics <ETC> (Nintendo) {2020.06.05} (¥3.980) - 10.583 / 1.205.940 <80-100%> (+110%)
    24./21. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe + Booster Course Pass <RCE> (Nintendo) {2023.10.06} (¥8.000) - 8.511 / 39.487 <60-80%> (+47%)
    25./28. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban! <TBL> (Konami) {2020.11.19} (¥6.300) - 8.002 / 2.952.452 <80-100%> (+86%)
    26./00. [NSW] The Battle Cats Unite! <SLG> (Ponos) {2020.12.03} (¥2.200) - 7.360 / 240.563 <80-100%>
    27./27. [NSW] EA Sports FC 24 <SPT> (Electronic Arts) {2023.09.29} (¥6.091) - 7.327 / 55.722 <80-100%> (+68%)
    28./23. [NSW] Fashion Dreamer <ETC> (Marvelous) {2023.11.02} (¥5.980) - 6.583 / 65.825 <60-80%> (+32%)
    29./30. [NSW] Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe <ACT> (Nintendo) {2023.02.24} (¥5.980) - 6.524 / 512.607 <80-100%> (+68%)
    30./24. [NSW] Ace Angler: Fishing Spirits # <SPT> (Bandai Namco Entertainment) {2022.10.27} (¥5.980) - 6.229 / 153.936 <80-100%> (+30%)

    Top 30

    NSW - 28
    PS5 - 2


    Famitsu Sales: Week 53, 2023 (Dec 25 - Dec 31)

    01./02. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu World: Chikyuu wa Kibou de Mawatteru! <TBL> (Konami) {2023.11.16} (¥6.300) - 89.996 / 795.681 <80-100%> (-12%)
    02./01. [NSW] Super Mario Bros. Wonder <ACT> (Nintendo) {2023.10.20} (¥5.980) - 65.434 / 1.549.401 <80-100%> (-58%)
    03./04. [NSW] Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark Prince # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2023.12.01} (¥6.980) - 38.575 / 510.477 <80-100%> (+0%)
    04./05. [PS5] Marvel's Spider-Man 2 # <ACT> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2023.10.20} (¥8.164) - 20.983 / 166.731 <40-60%> (-35%)
    05./18. [NSW] Jinsei Game for Nintendo Switch <TBL> (Takara Tomy) {2023.10.06} (¥6.000) - 17.897 / 147.308 <80-100%> (+2%)
    06./03. [NSW] Pikmin 4 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2023.07.21} (¥5.980) - 17.607 / 1.119.027 <80-100%> (-71%)
    07./06. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 16.984 / 5.631.598 <80-100%> (-42%)
    08./12. [NSW] Pokemon Scarlet / Violet + The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2023.11.03} (¥9.162) - 11.560 / 76.112 <60-80%> (-50%)
    09./10. [NSW] Pokemon Scarlet / Violet # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2022.11.18} (¥5.980) - 11.246 / 5.246.363 <80-100%> (-54%)
    10./07. [NSW] Minecraft # <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600) - 10.720 / 3.394.222 <80-100%> (-61%)
    11./08. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200) - 10.715 / 5.400.275 <80-100%> (-61%)
    12./15. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2020.03.20} (¥5.980) - 10.624 / 7.644.654 <80-100%> (-48%)
    13./09. [NSW] WarioWare: Move It! <ETC> (Nintendo) {2023.11.03} (¥4.980) - 10.474 / 141.554 <60-80%> (-61%)
    14./11. [NSW] Super Mario RPG <RPG> (Nintendo) {2023.11.17} (¥5.980) - 9.607 / 447.687 <80-100%> (-60%)
    15./20. [NSW] Mario Party Superstars <ETC> (Nintendo) {2021.10.29} (¥5.980) - 9.182 / 1.371.773 <80-100%> (-32%)
    16./23. [NSW] Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics <ETC> (Nintendo) {2020.06.05} (¥3.980) - 9.038 / 1.214.978 <80-100%> (-15%)
    17./22. [NSW] Nintendo Switch Sports # <SPT> (Nintendo) {2022.04.29} (¥4.980) - 8.979 / 1.246.849 <80-100%> (-29%)
    18./16. [NSW] Splatoon 3 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2022.09.09} (¥5.980) - 7.925 / 4.191.126 <80-100%> (-61%)
    19./21. [NSW] Super Mario Party # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} (¥5.980) - 7.912 / 2.232.637 <80-100%> (-41%)
    20./19. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2023.05.12} (¥7.200) - 7.090 / 1.929.603 <80-100%> (-49%)
    21./25. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban! <TBL> (Konami) {2020.11.19} (¥6.300) - 7.075 / 2.959.527 <80-100%> (-12%)
    22./17. [NSW] Taiko no Tatsujin: Rhythm Festival <ACT> (Bandai Namco Entertainment) {2022.09.22} (¥5.980) - 6.038 / 277.216 <80-100%> (-66%)
    23./14. [PS5] Baldur's Gate III <RPG> (Spike Chunsoft) {2023.12.21} (¥7.800) - 5.419 / 25.916 <60-80%> (-74%)
    24./24. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe + Booster Course Pass <RCE> (Nintendo) {2023.10.06} (¥8.000) - 4.520 / 44.007 <80-100%> (-47%)
    25./13. [NSW] Spy x Anya: Operation Memories # <ADV> (Bandai Namco Entertainment) {2023.12.21} (¥6.800) - 4.460 / 25.112 <60-80%> (-78%)
    26./00. [NSW] Hogwarts Legacy # <RPG> (WB Games) {2023.11.14} (¥7.980) - 4.323 / 82.367 <80-100%> (-28%)
    27./00. [NSW] Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 [Special Price] <PZL> (Sega) {2022.11.17} (¥3.500) - 3.475 / 118.599 <80-100%>
    28./00. [NSW] Pokemon Brilliant Diamond / Shining Pearl # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2021.11.19} (¥5.980) - 3.450 / 2.682.713 <80-100%>
    29./27. [NSW] EA Sports FC 24 <SPT> (Electronic Arts) {2023.09.29} (¥6.091) - 3.140 / 58.862 <80-100%> (-57%)
    30./26. [NSW] The Battle Cats Unite! <SLG> (Ponos) {2020.12.03} (¥2.200) - 3.137 / 243.700 <80-100%> (-57%)

    Top 30

    NSW - 28
    PS5 - 2
     
    JoshuaJSlone said:
    PS2's first holiday season without a 100K week was late 2005, a year earlier than Switch and the year before PS3 dropped. DS did have 100+K weeks (and a 200+K week) on its sixth holiday season shortly before 3DS's launch, but it's a pretty glass half empty measure if failing to hit DS highs is Not Great.
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    The Switch also

    Hasn't had a price drop

    Is seeing most of it's big sales from a more expensive sku

    Has pandemic years which wildly throw off it's year to year comparisons

    It still slapping around it's only competition in Japan by a sizable margin both hardware and software


    Also 2022 had the launch of the first true open world mainline Pokemon game in Scarlet/Violet. Say what you will about it's performance and graphics, but open world Pokemon was a far bigger draw in the 2022 holidays then new 2d Mario and a remake of Mario RPG were in 2023. Being down was expected, and you have to be deep into NinrenDOOOOM to think this year was a bad result.
     
    How does Super Mario Bros. Wonder compare to other Super Mario titles released in the holiday season in Japan?? I'm more curious about New Super Mario Bros. Wii and Super Mario Odyssey.

    NSMB Wii did ship 10.5M WW in its first quarter(which had 3 weeks less of tracking than Wonder) and I was seeing that as a floor for Wonder but maybe I overestimated it. I know a direct comparison wouldn't actually show anything tho since the digital share is way higher now than it was in 2017 and let alone 2009(idek if NSMB Wii was purchasable digitally).

    Well its first two weeks sales of ~4m eclipsed whatever record Odyssey held before it as fastest selling Super Mario game(tho I'm almost certain it's sell through since I think Super Mario 3D All Stars shipped more than that in September 2020 IIRC?), it sold more in December than in launch month in UK(I expected it did similar in the US too).
     
    MilkyChance said:
    My gawd! Is it safe to say that the Switch will break the Nintendo DS LTD record this year? Switch is consistently over 3 mil a year is insane!
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    I think it's safe. It would still miss it if it had a year-on-year drop as big as DS from 2010 to 2011, but in that situation it had a successor releasing by the end of February.
    Marce-chan said:
    How does Super Mario Bros. Wonder compare to other Super Mario titles released in the holiday season in Japan?? I'm more curious about New Super Mario Bros. Wii and Super Mario Odyssey.
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    NSMB Wii crushes it, basically. SMBW's year-end number is a bit over NSMBW's two-week number. By the end of 2010 (first five weeks), NSMBW was at 2.7m.

    Odyssey and SMBW are a lot more similar. SMBW's first week was about 25% bigger. Its end-of-first-year number is about 17% bigger, but it had one extra week of sales.
     
    JoshuaJSlone said:
    PS2's first holiday season without a 100K week was late 2005, a year earlier than Switch and the year before PS3 dropped. DS did have 100+K weeks (and a 200+K week) on its sixth holiday season shortly before 3DS's launch, but it's a pretty glass half empty measure if failing to hit DS highs is Not Great.
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    i'm only referring to YoY for the holiday period specifically in my post. it's only competition is itself, really. (and the DS, but the DS' peak years are very much behind it when aligned.)

    @BassForever this is not "NintenDOOM", that's a little dramatic lol.
     
    thoughthaver said:
    everyone dooming about the switch but look at those ps5 numbers 😬. on paper it has a great lineup of games and unlimited third party support but it's barely limping above 80k on what should be it's peak year. the switch 2 is gonna hit like the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs.
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    been trying to claw out of its grave we need the Switch 2 to bury it indefinitely
     
    I hadn't realised how close Switch was to DS's lifetime total in Japan. All it needs to overtake it is a little over 1 million sales, so that's almost definitely going to happen even if sales collapse when the successor arrives.
     
    MisterSpo said:
    I hadn't realised how close Switch was to DS's lifetime total in Japan. All it needs to overtake it is a little over 1 million sales, so that's almost definitely going to happen even if sales collapse when the successor arrives.
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    Switch, I bet, can easily reach one million in Japan next FY
     
    kasparov77 said:
    Switch still selling big time in Japan.
    What are the odds it hits 140mi next time worldwide sales data drops?
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    Two ways of considering this, which I was recently doing when replying to someone who thought 135-136 through December was likely.

    April-June was up 14% from the year before. July-September was down 10% from the year before. To hit 140m, October-December would need to be down only 8% from the year before.

    April-September was 6.84m, and Nintendo maintains their 15m forecast, so they expect another 8.16m for October-March. Last year the second half could be split up as October-December 73% and January-March 27%. So following this pattern, we might expect they'll ship 73% of 8.16m if they're still on track to make that forecast. That would be about 5.96m, for a total of 138.42.

    tl;dr I'd be surprised if it was as high as 140, but it will still be way the hell over 136.
     
    rêverie said:
    i’m tired of being a debby downer, but this just isn’t that great, again!

    SMBW did alright i suppose, good to see it ramped up to possibly two 100k+ weeks. kind of wished pikmin 4 did 100k+ combined, though really that game has nothing to prove anymore since it’s already done so well. SMRPG being that low is very unfortunate.

    most interesting of all is probably DQM. seems they didn’t get stock out in time? but as we saw on year-end digital charts with it being so high, it seems like it did very well overall.

    switch HW either didn’t do a single 100k week or only one. either way, not great even for it being in its twilight years. (need to say that since people love to point it out as a consolation prize.)
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    It's the dominant console in the market by 2:1 in sales and much more than that in install base, this doesn't seem to be a case of "they could be doing better", this is market saturation. They've reached unfathomable market saturation and STILL sell hundreds of thousands a month. A new console is needed, I think, but these are not unhealthy numbers.
     
    ziggyrivers said:
    If Nintendo doesn’t reach the 15 million forecast, they could easily hit 13, 14 million, or be veeery close to 15
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    Based on my estimates I'm guessing it will end up somewhere between 13M to 14M. I will be pleasantly surprised if it surpassed 14M!

    JoshuaJSlone said:
    April-September was 6.84m, and Nintendo maintains their 15m forecast, so they expect another 8.16m for October-March. Last year the second half could be split up as October-December 73% and January-March 27%. So following this pattern, we might expect they'll ship 73% of 8.16m if they're still on track to make that forecast. That would be about 5.96m, for a total of 138.42.
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    When they first came up with the 15M projection my guess was they were assuming fiscal H1 ships 6M and fiscal H2 ships 9M (usually fiscal Q3 is about twice the number of units as two quarters), thus the reason why they said the 6.8M H1 surpassed their expectations. They didn't revise their projections as they were remaining cautious - better to overdeliver than underdeliver.

    Based on Famitsu sales data and what I have been hearing from downstream contacts so far, I estimate fiscal Q3 to be somewhere between 4.6M to 5.4M, which is significantly down YOY (fiscal Q3 2022 was 23% down YOY, so based on these numbers Q3 2023 will be about 35% - 44% down YOY). I will be very, very surprised if it can hit 5.96M, but I hope to be proven wrong.
     
    Yeah, Switch is almost the best selling system ever in Japan. Like I said, I genuinely hadn't realised it was so close to overtaking GB/C (32.4m) and DS's (32.9m) totals. This is the historic highs for a console in Japan and so Switch genuinely doesn't have much further to go.
     
    Luminoth9090 said:
    Nintendo Platforms yearly Japan sales

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    Sony Platforms yearly Japan sales

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    I don’t understand how anyone could look at this data and conclude Switch sales in its seventh year are anything but absolutely fantastic and unprecedented. Like damn, those are some legendary sales legs.
     
    Concernt said:
    It's the dominant console in the market by 2:1 in sales and much more than that in install base, this doesn't seem to be a case of "they could be doing better", this is market saturation. They've reached unfathomable market saturation and STILL sell hundreds of thousands a month. A new console is needed, I think, but these are not unhealthy numbers.
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    i don’t know why people keep putting words in my mouth in these sales threads when i point out fairly simple stuff like saying these numbers aren’t great. i didn’t say they were unhealthy anywhere, but not great is a totally fair assessment. certainly saturation point is being reached, that is absolutely a major reason as to why these numbers are, in fact, not great.

    and yes, a new console is needed, that is literally the way to fix this! yet, some people in previous threads insist that this is perfectly good and no reason for nintendo to release a new console to course correct. you and i both know this is a non-argument though as the switch 2 is releasing this year, good sales or not for the switch 1.

    i just don’t need to be told that “this is a console in it’s 7th year” as a reasoning for subpar holiday or that i’m “nintendooming” because i’m pointing out very mundane observations. i can praise the switch as being an absolute behemoth sales-wise and also point out that this holiday has been not great. both things can be true.
     
    rêverie said:
    i don’t know why people keep putting words in my mouth in these sales threads when i point out fairly simple stuff like saying these numbers aren’t great. i didn’t say they were unhealthy anywhere, but not great is a totally fair assessment. certainly saturation point is being reached, that is absolutely a major reason as to why these numbers are, in fact, not great.

    and yes, a new console is needed, that is literally the way to fix this! yet, some people in previous threads insist that this is perfectly good and no reason for nintendo to release a new console to course correct. you and i both know this is a non-argument though as the switch 2 is releasing this year, good sales or not for the switch 1.

    i just don’t need to be told that “this is a console in it’s 7th year” as a reasoning for subpar holiday or that i’m “nintendooming” because i’m pointing out very mundane observations. i can praise the switch as being an absolute behemoth sales-wise and also point out that this holiday has been not great. both things can be true.
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    Your own words were that sales are “not great even for it being in its twilight years”. The numbers, as shown in the charts above, demonstrate that this is simply not true by any reasonable standard of comparison. The fact that the Switch is winding down is implied by the “twilight years” phrase, so to paint these sales as disappointing simply because the Switch isn’t selling quite as much as it has in previous years (even though it is still selling better than any other console on the market and dominating the software charts) is just pointless pessimism.
     
    rêverie said:
    don’t know why people keep putting words in my mouth
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    I don't see where I did that at all.

    I think people just disagree and think these numbers are fine. It's no longer lighting the world on fire; it is running out of fuel to burn.

    These sales are kind of great with the context of it being the 7th year is what people's point seems to be, which is why people might disagree with this:


    rêverie said:
    not great is a totally fair assessment.
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    Of course I agree entirely with this:

    rêverie said:
    a new console is needed
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    rêverie said:
    i don’t know why people keep putting words in my mouth in these sales threads when i point out fairly simple stuff like saying these numbers aren’t great. i didn’t say they were unhealthy anywhere, but not great is a totally fair assessment. certainly saturation point is being reached, that is absolutely a major reason as to why these numbers are, in fact, not great.

    and yes, a new console is needed, that is literally the way to fix this! yet, some people in previous threads insist that this is perfectly good and no reason for nintendo to release a new console to course correct. you and i both know this is a non-argument though as the switch 2 is releasing this year, good sales or not for the switch 1.

    i just don’t need to be told that “this is a console in it’s 7th year” as a reasoning for subpar holiday or that i’m “nintendooming” because i’m pointing out very mundane observations. i can praise the switch as being an absolute behemoth sales-wise and also point out that this holiday has been not great. both things can be true.
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    I think what you're saying is incredibly fair and reasonable. Switch is an amazing system that sold phenomenally and still sells well enough to this day. At the same time, switch is a console entering its 8th year that will continue to see declining sales and is in need of a replacement. Nintendo wouldn't be screwed or doomed if they don't drop a successor in 2024, but they'll definitely be playing with fire if they don't have new hardware out for next holiday.
     
    Concernt said:
    I don't see where I did that at all.

    I think people just disagree and think these numbers are fine. It's no longer lighting the world on fire; it is running out of fuel to burn.

    These sales are kind of great with the context of it being the 7th year is what people's point seems to be, which is why people might disagree with this:




    Of course I agree entirely with this:
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    if you mentioning that these sales aren’t unhealthy as your end statement wasn’t implying i meant that, then never mind about the putting words in my mouth - totally misconstrued then, sorry. others have done that if either by stretching what i’m saying or just reading it as unnecessarily bashing the system (i’m not), though i don’t think you were doing that. it’s just frustrating being painted as saying something wayyyy worse than what i actually was!
    Scrawnton said:
    I think what you're saying is incredibly fair and reasonable. Switch is an amazing system that sold phenomenally and still sells well enough to this day. At the same time, switch is a console entering its 8th year that will continue to see declining sales and is in need of a replacement. Nintendo wouldn't be screwed or doomed if they don't drop a successor in 2024, but they'll definitely be playing with fire if they don't have new hardware out for next holiday.
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    thank you! and yes, toootally agreed and in fact, i think this year has been an overall great one for the switch, all things considered.
     
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    kasparov77 said:
    Switch still selling big time in Japan.
    What are the odds it hits 140mi next time worldwide sales data drops?
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    Unlikely, it needs 7.54 million for the holiday quarter. This is my prediction based on my estimated drops in each region versus last years shipments.

    Oct to Dec 2022
    Japan - 2.09M
    America's - 3.07M
    Europe - 2.42M
    Other - 0.64M
    Total - 8.22M

    Oct to Dec 2023
    Japan - 1.36M (-35%)
    America's - 2.15M (-30%)
    Europe - 1.82M (-25%)
    Other - 0.70M (+10%)
    Total - 6.03M

    I expect "Other" to slightly grow as it is trending upwards, from sales data available the Japan, America's and Europe regions are significantly down.
     
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