I am a strong believer of this as well. I'm actually holding off playing ToTK until Switch 2 comes out, I'm hoping they'll use it as an example of how powerful Switch 2 can be an really go to extra lenghts to increase performance and visuals significantly. But it also may turn out that all this waiting was for nought. Fingers crossed.
TLoU Factions? Rumours are it was canned.
Wait until you get a load of Dragon Quest.
Yeeeeeeep.
100% agreed. I mean I've nothing against remasters or remakes, but at least let a couple of generations pass so you can sell it to new players and/or with significant improvements.
It's happened repeatedly in the past. The New Play Control series on Wii, Twilight Princess HD on Wii U, Mario & Luigi 3 remake on 3DS some of the more notable.
- New Play! Control was similar to one aspect of the Wii U situation, where many of the games they re-released didn’t do as well as they could have because of the GameCube’s low sales. This was also before the digital age, where you could buy the original games from an online storefront. These were essentially just reprints with some new control options, and were labeled as such.
Wait, what happened? I looked up "Neil Druckmann controversy" and didn't see anything recent
I'd imagine this is about his current support for Israel and comments around that, and then combine that with some old interviews about TLOU2 inspirations being born out of Israeli conflicts.
Lol I had sort of the same thought. Whoever put this together must've been like, "Dang, the original release is still one of the best looking games ever made..."
I'm certainly not expecting Nintendo to try to sell something as an entire new game that should have just been some DLC and an upgrade patch, but Sony botched the PS5's cross gen support so badly that they basically have to do this "remastered" thing that's bordering on self parody. TLOU2 is not in need of a "remastering" and neither is Nintendo's Switch library.
Naughty Dog has some very...unique fans. Let's put it that way. People are free to like what they like, but there's a crowd that treats TLOU like art in video games didn't exist beforehand and Joel and Ellie are the greatest characters ever written.
Uh, I don’t think that’s really the case here. If anything, TLoU PII Remastered exists for a few reasons;
yeah plenty of gamecube, wii, ds and 3ds games that can be rescued and remastered. dont do this shit sony is doing remastering 3 year old games. put patches out and call it a day.
This was the first thing I thought of when I saw this announcement.
That’s exactly what’s happening though, they aren’t hiding the tech improvements here. It’s essentially just a Director’s Cut, there almost certainly wasn’t significant manpower behind this release.
It's precisely this, as the screenshot comparisons have demonstrated. The "remaster" terminology is strictly a marketing thing. I'm viewing this more as a $10 DLC containing a res bump, DualSense functionality, a new mode, some extra levels, and a few other bells and whistles.
I won't go too deep into responding to... all of this, as it's mostly of the same drum that's been beaten for years now. Agree to disagree type deal. I view this thread as more about a remaster, as opposed to a springboard for a wider reaching discussion about the merit (or lack thereof) of video game storytelling and cinematic games. I'll just say I think it's a dodgy, kinda condescending take that people are "missing the point" when they play a game for story, as people have, and will continue to play games for a variety of different reasons. On a personal level, I can appreciate pure gameplay games like Hotline Miami or Cuphead just the same as a more cinematic offering like TLoU2, or games with an even greater emphasis on narrative, like Life is Strange or SOMA. There's gamey games, cinematic games, games in which you do nothing but read dialogue boxes, and so on.
They're certainly trying to sell it as an entire new game by positioning it as a remaster. In reality they probably don't have that big of an overhaul in mind, but for some reason they feel the need to tack something new onto the title, to push it as something beyond just the game ported to PS5. What makes this especially comical is that this series now has more "remasters" than original games.
Honestly if it was just framed as "The Last of Us Part II (PS5)" with included Director's Cut DLC I probably wouldn't find the concept of it so absurd. Still a little absurd, but mostly in the more generic "PS5 is so poorly designed it forces what should just be a patch into technically a whole separate game" sort of sense. It's the attempt to sort of puff it up with additional "prestige" that really gets to me. My general distaste for the word "remaster" as applied to video games probably also doesn't help.
Most of it was covered but Druckmann has been pretty open about the Israel-Palestine conflict being an inspiration for the game and it's difficult to not view the Wolves vs. Seraphites through that lens and as an allegory for it. Whatever your take away is, the parallels to the current situation are startling and announcing the game right now is inevitably going to invite (unfavourable) comparisons.
yup, that’s just my opinion. Who would have ever guessed that someone on a Nintendo oriented board would prefer Nintendo gameplay oriented games over SIE sad dad grimdark walking simulator cutscene fest # 63?
Getting back on topic,
