yeah i dont think there's really anything to feel rn - way too early we're at the Nintendo + Illumination point, which didn't look great but turned out fine so let's wait til we get the cast in the Nintendo Direct with Chris Pratt as Navi before we start worryingAvi Arad: whatever. His filmography is full of stinkers but he has at least a few hits to his name and the common trend among his productions is that the less creatively hands-on he is with something the better it is. If Nintendo is the primary financer and Miyamoto is a key producer, I'll be less worried about him being involved and assume he's just in there to get the machine spinning.
Wes Ball: could work. The Maze Runner films themselves are average at best but in terms of direction they're solid, his cancelled Mouse Guard adaptation looked good and I think he could deliver something visually interesting. If Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes winds up as good as it looks, then I think the director choice will end up sitting better with people.
Derek Connolly: I have nothing of note to extrapolate from his oeuvre because everything he's worked on except Safety Not Guaranteed (very good) and Monster Trucks (not very good) is a hodgepodge of writing credits where he may or may not even have been the main writer among three or even four different people. Because of the way the Hollywood movie machine works, it is very difficult to tell how much of the quality (or lack thereof) of a script is because of one individual, especially in productions that have a combined director/writer credit. Connolly is credited in TROS but nothing of his work is in the final product, and it's difficult to tell how much of the leaked Duel of the Fates script is his as well.
In summary, I don't know how to feel about any of this yet other than "it's surreal this is actually real", especially with Nintendo being such a hands-on factor in all this. It could be good, it might end up really badly. It'll be a new challenge for Nintendo either way now that we're entering the live action realm. My earnest hopes is just a film that's an enjoyable and presentationally engaging fantasy tale that can maintain Zelda's more subtextual themeings which made Ocarina of Time, Wind Waker, and the BOTW/TOTK duology so enduring. Best case scenario is a Link's Awakening type narrative. I like to think that with narrative being more emphasized in Zelda than it is with Mario, it'll be a bit more ambitious with its storytelling.
I'm more concerned with landing a good screenwriter, since I think a good script with a mid director will produce a better movie than a mid script with a good director, and because I think it'd be cheaper to get a better screenwriter than a better director. I'm not saying they need to hire Aaron Sorkin or Charlie Kaufman for their Zelda movie, just... someone who turns out more than average popcorn shit.It seems that some people in this thread live in this weird reality where Tarantino and Scorsese have waited their entire lives to make a Zelda film, and would cancel all of their current projects without hesitation if Nintendo granted them the privilege.
Detective Link
I think part of the reason they agreed to these partners is because of the control Nintendo would keep. I know that may be incongruent with some of Avi Arad's track record, but I just don't see Nintendo/Miyamoto agreeing to a deal without heavy input and final cut approval, given they could really shop this property all over the place to eager studios.The more I see from the people behind this movie, the more I’m worried. Illumination may have been a mediocre machine for years, but at least I couldnt say they made BAD movies, and Mario is easier to make a movie out of. A Zelda Movie has to be special, and the more it’s revealed who’s making this, the worse it seems. Avi Avad ruined spider man 3 by meddling with Sam Raimi’s vision, and I fear something like that could happen with Miyamoto
Now there are two problems hereokay see there’s a problem here
Jurassic World fucking sucks but Detective Pikachu is the greatest film of all time
Pre-vis of Mouse Guard - directed by Wes Ball (got cancelled by Disney after the merge with Fox)
is crazy if i imagine the Legend of Zelda movie with a 300/400 milion budget?Looking at the press release I think Sony is still financing like 45% of this ... if Nintendo was in 60%+ or 70%+ why not just state that, 50%+ likely means like literally 55% or something. Enough so they have the lion share control but still enough left over so Sony can eat well from it and minimize some of Nintendo's risk.
Live action is a different ball park and the production and marketing budget requirements are generally higher, as such it's riskier.
There is probably a good chance this is the most expensive entertainment media Nintendo has ever made (more than any game or movie they have made before).
Also as an aside, can we get a freaking Netflix app on the Switch 2? Now that Nintendo is becoming a major movie studio (basically) and Sony has distribution deals through Netflix, it just doesn't make sense to not have a Netflix app. Call the people at Netflix and get it done, Nintendo.
everyone says this like Ghibli actully wants to make a Zelda movie and not think it's beneath them
10/10 deflectioni bet you're fun at parties...
If anyone came up to me at a party and started talking about which japanese studio they would like to see doing a Zelda movie I'd throw them into the pool.i bet you're fun at parties...
isn't Ghibli going through some issues atm?
is crazy if i imagine the Legend of Zelda movie with a 300/400 milion budget?
with the people they got together, Nintendo wants another billion dollar movie
Are “Wes Ball” billion dollar movies in the room with us, right now?Definitely this.
Although this piece of news surprised me and I have a bit of pessimism, I trust Nintendo to properly manage their IP. I seriously doubt they'd let a bad movie ruin the Zelda franchise's growth. I'd like to this that this isn't going to be the Zelda version of the 90's Mario movie.
He's my favorite part about the movie so far, seems like a talented and passionate guy. His Mouse Guard animation looked great too.My dude straight up willed his dream into existence like an anime character.
Maybe he's the right guy for this after all.
directors next film, so it'll at least look visually good
What's he got? What's in that hat?Biggest issue is gonna be making the hat look good.
honestly depends on how they use the money they have. the recent planet of the apes movies all look great while also being cheaper then most superhero moviewill Nintendo spend as much on visual effects tho?
That's what I thought when I say "Sony Pictures" behind it.So Tom Holland is gonna play Link, right?
Why can I not stop thinking about the words “Dave Bautista as Ganondorf”?
Why are you doing this to me? I need an unyeah button.
FixedIf I close my eyes I can still have the Cartoon Saloon Zelda movie directed by Tomm Moore that chocolate_supra and I always wanted.
I'm sure Nintendo was involved in Peach's portrayal during the Mario movie, so they have a good head over their shoulders. I trust Nintendo to properly supervise the people they are lending their IPs tobut it's still being written/directed/produced by westerners
Nintendo seems to like to dip their fingers in different pies.Nintendo x Sony, huh ... lol. Has to be a bit of a blow for Universal to miss out.
they definitely were, but I was getting more at the trend in the west of female characters not being so passive these days as Zelda has usually been attributed to. I can't speak on Japan, but the west has been very vocal about playable Zelda as part of this push, so it's probably something a western team is very cognizant ofI'm sure Nintendo was involved in Peach's portrayal during the Mario movie, so they have a good head over their shoulders. I trust Nintendo to properly supervise the people they are lending their IPs to
for the past 3 Legend of Zelda, Zelda has been a more proactive character, the only missing point is making her playable on the next Legend of Zeldathey definitely were, but I was getting more at the trend in the west of female characters not being so passive these days as Zelda has usually been attributed to. I can't speak on Japan, but the west has been very vocal about playable Zelda as part of this push, so it's probably something a western team is very cognizant of
it's Zelda, it's gonna be for kids regardlessIn the US if you go the animated route you are making a movie for kids
I’m sorry but that’s just how it works
So while an animated feature like a Studio Ghibli production would have been preferable live action was the only way we were getting a US movie that could tell a serious story with the gravity that Zelda requires
she has been, but at the same time, she's also been written to pretty much not have an immediately active role in the games' story. it's all of her own volition, but it's not what people really wantfor the past 3 Legend of Zelda, Zelda has been a more proactive character, the only missing point is making her playable on the next Legend of Zelda