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Ah, so this is the Player's Pulse. Fascinating!
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Interesting, not much to work off of, though if that did mean anything to help avoid people getting confused between revisions, this shows that there isn't a set time period as to when it needs to pan out, which is good. The reveal being tomorrow makes no sense in my eyes, lol.The Lite trailer was made private sometime between July 8 and July 11, 2021 (its original upload date was July 10, 2019), so at least two days after the OLED reveal trailer went live on July 6, 2021. I couldn't find any contemporaneous discussion of the Lite trailer from 2021, but we did discuss that at the time the OLED trailer went private last year, and I was able to confirm that date range using the Internet Archive.
Well. The former, pretty clearly, since the suggestions around licencing are illogical. I would rather we didn't put things into such boxes, though, I don't think LiC is being pessimistic at all, they're pretty measured. They're offering an alternative reason why these videos COULD be being privated, and why one reappeared. However I find that reasoning unconvincing for the reasons outlined above;
Nintendo is generally good at licencing and can keep trailers and Directs up for years at a time, some much older than this.
One of the examples was OLED Model reveal going private and coming back, but it's unlikely Nintendo would renew a licence agreement AFTER privating a video, rather than being proactive, or more likely, they just have a perpetual licence.
The other was the Lite reveal, which didn't use identifiable music, it was pretty much stock music, which could have been in house, but such music is rarely if ever subject to strict licencing beyond the initial fee.
Finally, if licencing was an issue, then we'd see mirrors of the trailers going down, or being copyright claimed, but we don't see that happening at all.
Hmmm. The chip name is mentioned so the default should be that this is chip verification. But considering we already saw electrical validation work, and that devkits being shipped, this might be motherboard QA.Definitely a real find this time. Although I think it's another one that doesn't really narrow down the window for the start of production from "between now and six months from now," which has been the case for a while.
And then laid it off? Yeah that tracks actuallyTrailer removal happened because Microsoft bought that music
Yep. Not on Nintendo's official YT channel at all even when I sort by date and look around the timeframe of Oct 20, 2016.Nintendo getting ready to upload the switch 2 trailers and they probably dont want people to get confused and click on the switch 1 trailers while searching it im guessing
edit: yep just searched all over it is gone I can only find a re upload by gamespot, its happening
Plenty of internal marketing machinations could result in this, both related or unrelated to a potential hardware announcement.I get that, but why else would they do this?
From the shipping records, we know that Nvidia (and specifically their India office in Bangalore) use the Tegra model numbers to refer to not just the chip, and not just the motherboard, but even entire Nintendo devkits. There were 2016 shipments with names like "T210 Software Development Platform" that had serial numbers proving they were Nintendo SDEV units. And we know Nvidia has been shipping similarly-named T239 things to that office since late 2022.Hmmm. The chip name is mentioned so the default should be that this is chip verification. But considering we already saw electrical validation work, and that devkits being shipped, this might be motherboard QA.
I got it confused with the Splatoon OLED reveal. It’s all a blur . Either way, something is definitely happening. Something always happened after they privated a video.Is there a source for this? I only see that it was taken down on July 5th, 2022, alongside the OLED model trailer.
If so, then that's more times than not this has meant something.
I'd like to point out that at this point I'm just playing devil's advocate here to rule other possibilities out but they could've also made it private to advertise the red Switch OLED model. The closeness to the original October 20th Switch reveal is the thing that compels me to think this might be related to new hardware but October 20th is also the official release date of Super Mario Bros Wonder. But also in that case why take down the OG Switch's reveal instead of the OLED?For reference, here's all that's happened in the past around trailer videos. All dates are for the western hemisphere and for NOA's YouTube channel.
* I can't find any contemporaneous info on this, so I don't know exactly when it happened.
- October 20, 2016: Nintendo Switch trailer uploaded
- July 10, 2019: Switch Lite trailer uploaded
- July 6, 2021: Switch OLED trailer uploaded
- Between July 8, 2021 and July 11, 2021: Switch Lite trailer made private*
- Between July 2, 2022 and July 5, 2022: Switch OLED trailer made private**
- July 6, 2022: Splatoon 3 OLED trailer uploaded
- Between August 20, 2022 and August 27, 2022: Switch OLED trailer made public again***
- Between October 11, 2023 and October 17, 2023: Nintendo Switch trailer made private****
** This was first noticed on July 5, so that's probably when it happened.
*** Can't confirm exactly when this happened either. The Splatoon 3 OLED was released on August 26, so the timing is admittedly suspicious.
**** This was first noticed on October 17, so that's probably when it happened.
You can see there isn't actually much of a pattern here. The Lite trailer went private at least two days after the OLED trailer was uploaded, and never came back. The OLED trailer went private a day before the Splatoon 3 OLED was announced, and came back after the latter was released. Now we have the original Switch trailer going private three days before its 7-year anniversary.
Personally, I'm not going to get my hopes up based on this (again). Heck, even if you wanted to see it as a pattern, it would only be a pattern for new models or special editions to date, which isn't what we're hoping for.
You aren’t clocking higher in portable mode though, it’s for TV mode.5X is not an efficiency win though. It's able to be clocked higher, but at the cost of power consumption (unlike 4X which is more power efficient than 4).
So it may not be that attractive to Nintendo for that reason.
If that were the case, they would have made the OLED trailer private (like they did around the announcement of the Splatoon 3 special edition), not the original Switch trailer. And Nintendo doesn't have a dedicated Mario OLED video announcement for people to search for (which they did for Splatoon 3).I'd like to point out that at this point I'm just playing devil's advocate here to rule other possibilities out but they could've also made it private to advertise the red Switch OLED model. The closeness to the original October 20th Switch reveal is the thing that compels me to think this might be related to new hardware but October 20th is also the official release date of Super Mario Bros Wonder.
Maybe it tucks in the covers extra tightly. Other job listings, Linux commits, and customs records had definitely already put it to bed.Well that job listing puts to bed that ridiculous rumor of the T239 being cancelled, hoping for some good things these next few weeks
You'd think so, but not necessarily. Switch has been on the market for several years, sales aren't really expected to go up, since everyone who wanted one already bought it; and people who waited to invest into the ecosystem 6 years into its life cycle aren't the type to buy into a new system at launch. In fact, the Switch itself was announced under similar circumstances— it was officially announced in October 2016, and 3DS sales were largely unaffected that holiday season. You could argue that 3DS had a big holiday title (Pokemon) to keep the momentum going and offset the impact of the Switch announcement, but Switch will definitely move a non-trivial number of units this Christmas thanks to Mario Wonder and the new bundles.I cant add any knowledge about when and why videos go private but revealing the NG just ahead of the holiday sales surge for the final big Switch holiday would have to be the worst business decision ever . I would be happy to be proven wrong but this seems highly illogical
Well, it could also be licensing for the actors' likenesses. But either way, it's not actually about the amount of money, and it could be both licensing- and announcement-related in a way.I'm still very anti-"but the patterns!" when it comes to anything but I find the music license argument to be really silly. White Denim is not a big group and I can't imagine the licensing fee to continue using their music is too high that Nintendo is like "yeah, we'll pass for renewing", especially when the reveal trailer was their most viewed video on YouTube.
I actually don't think a reveal this year is out of the question for a variety of reasons but I'm hesitant to say this means an announcement is imminent. Though I wouldn't complain about waking up to a surprise tomorrow morning.
I agree with this. A successor announcement would dampen momentum but Nintendo has two big Mario games and evergreen titles like Mario Kart and Animal Crossing to use this holiday to keep momentum going, and they definitely could even with a successor being announced.Now this just ocurred to me, so it isn't based on any data, and probably only makes sense in my head so excuse me if it's silly: but could announcing before the holiday season actually be a good idea for Nintendo, PR-wise? People might feel cheated if they buy Switch consoles only for a competitively-priced successor to be announced in, say, early February or even March. Going into the holiday season with a fair warning that improved hardware will come later in the following year (even if there's no set release date for it) could be a good strategy to avoid making casual consumers (i.e, the type who doesn't keep up with gaming news, and is therefore unaware of the nature of console lifecycles) feel like they should've saved their hard-earned cash.
I’m split between Nintendo wanting to announce before GTA 6 trailer (this week) or after (first week of November)
They defo not announcing next week on GTA 6 week
It will be one or another.
Wonder has nothing to worry about in both cases
Right. That seems like a no brainer.That 68Gbs is for low power games like Switch BC and 2D games
Some of the regulars know. I brought up the 20% efficiency of Samsung's LPDDR5X last Saturday.Okay, thanks for the feedback!
The only thing I kind of want everyone on here to know though is it seems there IS power efficiency gains with 5X, at least. This thread, I got the impression, thought there was no efficiency gains with 5X. Can we at least fully confirm this? At least so I can say that I added to the conversation instead of just asking n00b questions.
Could be a playstation or Xbox gamer wanting to try out the Switch for the first time and the 2d mario trailer finally did it for them you never know. Not just casual gamersI agree with this. A successor announcement would dampen momentum but Nintendo has two big Mario games and evergreen titles like Mario Kart and Animal Crossing to use this holiday to keep momentum going, and they definitely could even with a successor being announced.
People who are buying a Switch now (if they didn't have one already) are mostly going to be casual players and little kids. They don't buy into hardware launches. Anyone who is actively interested in Switch stuff either already has one or already decided to wait it out for the successor, because it's no secret it's coming next year. Even then, a casual consumer deciding to buy the successor rather than a bundle this holiday isn't a lost sale, it's just a delayed one. With Nintendo being ahead of their sales projections this fiscal year, perhaps they could stomach that. Or perhaps that's wishful thinking.
i really think that's just a coincidence, i mean nate knows things but would he have insider knowledge on nintendo's social media team? i thought it was from elsewhere in the company and industry. the video being taken down doesnt seem like something he'd know about in advance.As a massive Nate podcast fan, didnt he say he would do a podcast soonish on some new info....
and today he requests questions...
and today this happens....
omg....
its
happening.....
the podcast will most likely be about the Microsoft/ABK deal, dont get your hopes upAs a massive Nate podcast fan, didnt he say he would do a podcast soonish on some new info....
and today he requests questions...
and today this happens....
omg....
its
happening.....
For the gazillionth time, announcing before the holidays is something they have to do if the release date is in early 2024. The release date is decided first, then announcement and marketing are planned. If you don't think the release date is in early 2024, fine, just say that. Lots of people are expecting a release in the latter half of the year, including the two pieces of reporting we've gotten from VGC and Eurogamer, so that's not a controversial position! But the whole holiday sales justification for announcement timing is (a) not backed up by empirical evidence and, more importantly (b) irrelevant, because it's backwards.
When it comes to the Switch's October announcement, people often say "well, Nintendo could do that because they didn't care about their Wii U sales that holiday." Setting aside how that ignores the 3DS, this argument is simply coming at it from the wrong direction. The release date was decided first! Nintendo originally wanted to release the Switch in November 2016, then they were forced to delay it, and chose the earliest reasonable time instead, in March 2017. Once that decision was made, they had to announce it before the holidays. And I don't think anybody seriously argues that Nintendo would have preferred to delay the launch even more just so they could avoid an announcement before the holidays, and might have done so if not for the Wii U situation.
So now, if you think Nintendo can't announce Switch 2 before the holidays, then what you're really saying is that Nintendo can't release Switch 2 in the window of February to May. And honestly I'm down to have a whole argument about that, it would be a breath of fresh air. But basing it on the announcement timing and the Switch's holiday sales is totally backwards and unworkable logic even if it were true that the last holiday sales for the Switch asre critical and an announcement would hurt them.
They would likely identify as a more "core" consumer and probably have decided to wait for the successor. Like I said, they know the likelihood it'll be in the public's hands in the next 12 months is significantly high.Could be a playstation or Xbox gamer wanting to try out the Switch for the first time and the 2d mario trailer finally did it for them you never know. Not just casual gamers
the music industry is a cluster fuck when it comes to rights and licensing. plus, directs are essentially just compilations of commercials. the switch reveal aint exactly advertising the song used.What I don’t understand is why every trailer is deemed to have music rights issues but we have dozens of Direct that are a lot longer and have a lot more content from more sources and they rarely get removed or privated.
On the other hand, you have the Labo announcement video being made private somewhere between November 24, 2021 and January 26, 2022, after originally being uploaded on January 17, 2018, so that could have been around the 4 year anniversary as well. And unlike the debatable Switch model videos, that was definitely not because of SEO or because something was replacing them.What I don’t understand is why every trailer is deemed to have music rights issues but we have dozens of Direct that are a lot longer and have a lot more content from more sources and they rarely get removed or privated.
Let us know when your next checkup is after tomorrow, we'll know when the Switch 2 is out then.So I know this is more of a Direct Speculation pattern, but
just so yall know
I have a pretty big day full of doctors appointments tomorrow.
To be on the fair side, any sort of next gen reveal will have an announcement of an announcement first. No shadow dropping.So I know this is more of a Direct Speculation pattern, but
just so yall know
I have a pretty big day full of doctors appointments tomorrow.
Bro I so want this. I want Jensen to walk out like a PIMP in the big Nintendo event showcasing the next console and proceed to wax eloquent about Drake. How good would that be? Please be a true rumor.
Leak Express: Nvidia wants its name on Switch 2.The work of customizing the chip for the new Nintendo console was such and they are so proud of the result that they want to be part of the presentation of the console or even have the Nvidia brand appear on the box.
SUPER (NVIDIA) POWER
Switch 1 Trailer made Private today
This smells goooood
We have confirmation of that now?So the licensing for the song went out. That's all.
It's alway that.We have confirmation of that now?
Tbf any business is always looking to cut costs, even in the littlest ways. I personally would not be surprised if Nintendo just didn't want to renegotiate/pay more royalties. The trailer did it's job afterall.who would win?
a multinational corporation with cash reserves among the highest in Japan
or
four dudes from Austin who tour and write songs sometimes
It's alway that.
It's not.the podcast will most likely be about the Microsoft/ABK deal, dont get your hopes up
My brain is running full blast.It's not.
And we recorded well before the trailer was set to Private.
Y'all should stop discovering things when I'm asleep, I just looked through the last 3 pages with the "Kronos" music from Incredibles slowly blaring in my mind.a curious veil of smoke continues to waft over, suggesting a possible announcment in the next few weeks.
- amiibo restock theory points to something early Nov
- various rumours of 1H 2024 launch
- Switch announcement trailer privatized
maybe not this week but something could be brewing imminently. Funcles don't seem to be saying much though, Switch RTX soon?