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StarTopic Nintendo Switch 2 Speculation Thread |ST| The Future is Probably a Year From Now

How confident are you that one year from now (April 2nd, 2025) you will own a Switch 2 system?

  • Absolutely

    Votes: 231 57.5%

  • No because scalpers will kill my chances

    Votes: 48 11.9%

  • I hope so, but it is probably farther out

    Votes: 64 15.9%

  • Team second half 2025

    Votes: 26 6.5%

  • Josh, please stop it

    Votes: 33 8.2%
  • Total voters
    402
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Raccoon said:
In my case it's not to stay out of its update path or anything like that but instead to reduce the time between system launch and it getting its own Splatoon
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Seems a bit optimistic to get another Splatoon so soon after 3's chronic deadline missing, unless making two games at once was somehow the cause of that the whole time.
 
Splatoon 4 will turn the squid kids into squid teens and people will get really mad on "insert new social media platform because X will be dead"
 
AngryAlchemist said:
alright, I don't get it, but I won't pretend to get it. How about that? 🤝
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what exactly do you not get? I'm saying that I believe they would be inclined to have a new Splatoon game on a new system relatively early in its life entirely because of how it positions Splatoon in the lineup. it doesn't really have anything to do with development time, selling more Switch 2s, or even selling more copies of Splatoon 4. it's all about the health of the series
 
Pokemaniac said:
Seems a bit optimistic to get another Splatoon so soon after 3's chronic deadline missing, unless making two games at once was somehow the cause of that the whole time.
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it's definitely optimistic, but I'm inclined to believe it started development even before Splatoon 3 wrapped. this wouldn't really be Splatoon 4 but instead some fresh take on the core of the series
 
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Raccoon said:
what exactly do you not get? I'm saying that I believe they would be inclined to have a new Splatoon game on a new system relatively early in its life entirely because of how it positions Splatoon in the lineup. it doesn't really have anything to do with development time, selling more Switch 2s, or even selling more copies of Splatoon 4. it's all about the health of the series
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I don't get it because it seems arbitrary. There's no reason to think that Splatoon has to launch that early in the systems life. I can sort of understand saying that it should be within the first 3 years or so, but there's no reason they'd need it in the first year of the Switch 2 for "the health of the series".

Splatoon will be healthy whether it gets in the first year or not. Besides, a 2024 launch would probably still have Splatoon coming somewhat early (2025/2026 depending on how long ago they started Splatoon 4's pre-production, which they could have done parallel to post DLC support). Not to say that 2025 isn't a valid prediction, but it's not because of Splatoon ...
 
AngryAlchemist said:
I don't get it because it seems arbitrary. There's no reason to think that Splatoon has to launch that early in the systems life. I can sort of understand saying that it should be within the first 3 years or so, but there's no reason they'd need it in the first year of the Switch 2 for "the health of the series".

Splatoon will be healthy whether it gets in the first year or not. Besides, a 2024 launch would probably still have Splatoon coming somewhat early (2025/2026 depending on how long ago they started Splatoon 4's pre-production, which they could have done parallel to post DLC support). Not to say that 2025 isn't a valid prediction, but it's not because of Splatoon ...
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it sounds like you do get it but think it's dumb, which I say with absolutely no sarcasm that I'm fine with. as long as I'm making myself clear
 
Raccoon said:
it sounds like you do get it but think it's dumb, which I say with absolutely no sarcasm that I'm fine with. as long as I'm making myself clear
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I didn't get that it was about the health of the series before that comment to be honest.

Let me ask, how do you think that being released after the first year will be detrimental to the health of the series?
 
ahem....

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Nintendo, give me a Toadstool Tour port on Switch 2. Don’t remaster or remake it because I’m afraid they’ll mess with the mechanics.
 
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Pokemaniac said:
1. They have a history of extending these things
2. a H2 launch is far from settled
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With how updates are already decreasing in quantity, I wouldn’t get your hopes up for an extension beyond a bonus Splatfest or two.

And while H2 2024 isn’t settled, it’s a pretty safe bet between what Eurogamer, VGC, & Furukawa said.
 
AngryAlchemist said:
I didn't get that it was about the health of the series before that comment to be honest.
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oh...
AngryAlchemist said:
Let me ask, how do you think that being released after the first year will be detrimental to the health of the series?
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well, it's moreso that earlier is better. even if we launch in 2025 there's a chance it's still year 2, but year 2 is better than year 3 as year 1 is better than year 2

I don't think this is a strong reason to believe that their strategy is built on a 2025 launch, but they did in fact give us a second Splatoon on a mature platform instead of saving it for launch. as far as reasons to believe in 2025 go, that's the one I most resonate with
 
So its confirmed that the Playstation 5 Slim is real with the detachable disk drive , didn't Tom Henderson the person who leaked these earlier this year say something about the Switch 2 as well?
 
NintenDuvo said:
So its confirmed that the Playstation 5 Slim is real with the detachable disk drive , didn't Tom Henderson the person who leaked these earlier this year say something about the Switch 2 as well?
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Just that we should expect a lot of PS5/XSX|S/Switch 2/PC game announcements in the next 12-18 months.

Raccoon said:
oh...

well, it's moreso that earlier is better. even if we launch in 2025 there's a chance it's still year 2, but year 2 is better than year 3 as year 1 is better than year 2

I don't think this is a strong reason to believe that their strategy is built on a 2025 launch, but they did in fact give us a second Splatoon on a mature platform instead of saving it for launch. as far as reasons to believe in 2025 go, that's the one I most resonate with
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Which ended up the right call for Japan & the wrong call for the West given how long-term sales are turning out.
 
Neoxon said:
Just that we should expect a lot of PS5/XSX|S/Switch 2/PC game announcements in the next 12-18 months.


Which ended up the right call for Japan & the wrong call for the West given how long-term sales are turning out.
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Is Splatoon a big seller in the west? I guess in comparison with Nintendo’s other big franchises.
 
So with the PS5 Disk drive slim whatever is confirmed Tom Henderson is right again. Bring on the huge third party support for Switch 2 :)
 
daybreak said:
There's a very clear answer for a new, innovative title in a long-dormant series to showcase the power of the next-gen Switch, and it's an extremely obvious one:

Make a new Endless Ocean game, you cowards. Let me chill in a beautiful ocean and look at some aquatic life.
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Personally I'm hoping RT abilities in the new console will herald the return of the "nice water" era.
Mario Sunshine 2, Wave Race, Endless Ocean, and every other first party game for several years should take place on or around a tropical island.
 
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Neoxon said:
Just that we should expect a lot of PS5/XSX|S/Switch 2/PC game announcements in the next 12-18 months.


Which ended up the right call for Japan & the wrong call for the West given how long-term sales are turning while that
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While that is neat to know, as for now it is pretty much a nothing burger lol
 
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I know this question is probably impossible to know the answer for, but does anybody think the NSO voucher program eligible game list will be expanded to include Switch 2-exclusive games? ("Switch 2 exclusive" in this context meaning games that is not playable on Switch 1, but is on Switch 2)
 
As far as software goes I believe we will get:
God of War
God of War: Ragnarok
Horizon Zero Dawn
Horizon Forbidden West
The Last of Us Part 1
The Last of Us Part 2
Gran Turismo 7
Ratchet and Clank Rifts Apart
Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection
Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves
Shadow of the Colossus
Ghost of Tsushima
(There are many others I simply cannot be arsed to list)

All of these will be launch titles, because Nintendo is going to buy the Playstation branch from Sony and this will unify the two major Japanese games console manufacturers. There will be a meeting between both Nvidia and AMD, where they will discuss whether or not they can change their brand colours to reflect the colours of their respective console companies, ushering in the dawn of a new era between Team Red and Team Green.
 
darthdiablo said:
I know this question is probably impossible to know the answer for, but does anybody think the NSO voucher program eligible game list will be expanded to include Switch 2-exclusive games? ("Switch 2 exclusive" in this context meaning games that is not playable on Switch 1, but is on Switch 2)
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Yes. It’ll be worth it more when games are $70 or the voucher will go up to like $110 or something
 
Dark Cloud said:
Is Splatoon a big seller in the west? I guess in comparison with Nintendo’s other big franchises.
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Mekanos said:
I mean it still sells millions outside of Japan, that seems big to me
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Splatoon is more of a Kirby/DK-tier franchise in the West, whereas it sells like Mario/Zelda/Pokémon in Japan. I posted a tweet on the topic not too long ago…

Something I didn’t realize at the time was that other Asian markets are included in “Overseas”. So to answer your question, it’s like I said in the tweet: Splatoon is absolutely a heavy-hitter, but it mostly has Japan & other Asian markets to thank for that status.
 
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darthdiablo said:
I know this question is probably impossible to know the answer for, but does anybody think the NSO voucher program eligible game list will be expanded to include Switch 2-exclusive games? ("Switch 2 exclusive" in this context meaning games that is not playable on Switch 1, but is on Switch 2)
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Doubt it. I feel like vouchers were to increase sales momentum on an aging platform.
 
Pokemaniac said:
Seems a bit optimistic to get another Splatoon so soon after 3's chronic deadline missing, unless making two games at once was somehow the cause of that the whole time.
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What is Splatoon 3's chronic deadline missing? It got delayed once from August to September last year and all of it's events and whatnot have landed on time. If you're talking about Side Order it was never confirmed for 2023 and even the eShop had the temp release date as 2024.
 
10k said:
Doubt it. I feel like vouchers were to increase sales momentum on an aging platform.
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ziggyrivers said:
My sentiments exactly. The most Nintendo will do is offer double Gold Coins
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If I remember correctly, the vouchers were a limited time thing here in the west much closer to the launch of the system and then only came back in the last year after a hiatus. However, I'm pretty sure the vouchers never got discontinued in Japan. I might be wrong but I remember reading about this when they came back.
 
carbvan said:
What is Splatoon 3's chronic deadline missing? It got delayed once from August to September last year and all of it's events and whatnot have landed on time. If you're talking about Side Order it was never confirmed for 2023 and even the eShop had the temp release date as 2024.
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internally Side Order appears to have been pushed about half a year, but that could be the vestigial data misleading us. from the outside it's right on schedule, as you point out
 
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Seeing the PS5 digital go up to $450 makes me believe the absolute floor for the Switch NG is $400. They might go higher than that, but it feels like we've left the era of gaming where hardware goes down over time.
 
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Giancarlo said:
is the opposite, Nintendo suported 3DS until 2019, the same will happen to Nintendo Switch now
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That's what I said in my post.

The part where you outlined three years of mostly cross-gen games with year 4 being the transition to mostly exclusives, that I very much doubt.
 
Considering how the plots and theming of Splatoon 2 and 3 went, I'd imagine that they won't begin any serious work on 4 until after the final Splatfest.

carbvan said:
If I remember correctly, the vouchers were a limited time thing here in the west much closer to the launch of the system and then only came back in the last year after a hiatus. However, I'm pretty sure the vouchers never got discontinued in Japan. I might be wrong but I remember reading about this when they came back.
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As far as I know, North America was the only region to temporarily discontinue them for some reason. Everyone else has had them since 2019.
 
ohlawd said:
idk why people like to get cute with successor names. consumers are stupid. better to make it clear to them by using numbers.
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within the realm of nintendo switch 2 sounds like a simple iteration

if it has anything going on at all it should have a name of some kind
 
carbvan said:
If I remember correctly, the vouchers were a limited time thing here in the west much closer to the launch of the system and then only came back in the last year after a hiatus. However, I'm pretty sure the vouchers never got discontinued in Japan. I might be wrong but I remember reading about this when they came back.
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In the west, they came around September 2019 with the launch of the Switch Lite. I remember because Link's Awakening remake and DQXIS along with Astral Chain came out around that time and were eligible. I think it was to push sales of the lite or something, but yes it was a limited time. They brought it back after their ambitious forecast of hardware units sold with no price cut on the horizon.
 
Raccoon said:
you have an installbase account or something?
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I'm pretty sure they would hate me much more than Fami given how I feel about the obsession with sales data.

I teach the children to do maths against their will.
 
10k said:
In the west, they came around September 2019 with the launch of the Switch Lite. I remember because Link's Awakening remake and DQXIS along with Astral Chain came out around that time and were eligible. I think it was to push sales of the lite or something, but yes it was a limited time. They brought it back after their ambitious forecast of hardware units sold with no price cut on the horizon.
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Again, the limited time thing was not for "the west" but the US. Vouchers have been a thing in Europe (and I assume the rest of the PAL region) since they were introduced
 
carbvan said:
What is Splatoon 3's chronic deadline missing? It got delayed once from August to September last year and all of it's events and whatnot have landed on time. If you're talking about Side Order it was never confirmed for 2023 and even the eShop had the temp release date as 2024.
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The game internally gates certain features and content by version number, and there have been multiple documented instances of stuff getting pushed back.
 
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ziggyrivers said:
My sentiments exactly. The most Nintendo will do is offer double Gold Coins
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10k said:
Doubt it. I feel like vouchers were to increase sales momentum on an aging platform.
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Except we had voucher program not too far off from launch. I would know, I used that program (the original voucher program).

2 years is not a definition of "aging platform".

I think the strategy behind voucher program was more about getting more people on the NSO membership, less about sales numbers (which was already doing well only 2 years into Switch's lifecycle).
 
Raccoon said:
within the realm of nintendo switch 2 sounds like a simple iteration

if it has anything going on at all it should have a name of some kind
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Doing the thing with no precedent sounds like a simple iteration, so they should instead do... what they do with simple iterations?
 
JoshuaJSlone said:
Doing the thing with no precedent sounds like a simple iteration, so they should instead do... what they do with simple iterations?
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huh??

Super Game Boy 2 is our precedent for the number 2

on the software side we have Galaxy 2, which started as a level pack; Splatoon, which I love but has a subtle improvement model; and Mario Kart 7 to Mario Kart 8, which share a lot

I don't think it's unlikely but I wouldn't expect much from a "Switch 2" creatively
 
Raccoon said:
within the realm of nintendo switch 2 sounds like a simple iteration

if it has anything going on at all it should have a name of some kind
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that's what we want though. simple iteration. Nintendo Switch 2 will tell people "guess my Switch 1 is old dogshit I should get the successor which is Nintendo Switch 2. 2 >1 after all"

PS does it. Apple does it. The base model should just be the number. If there's a Slim or Pro version then yeah you can do Nintendo Switch 2 Advance or some shit like that.
 
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