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yusufied said:
A lot was going on yesterday so maybe this went under the radar. I know Nash Weedle isn't proven to be the greatest source but this does back up some of the Paper Mario and Mario RPG speculation from a few days ago. Let's hope someone else can corroborate this.

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Machrider said:
When people say they doubt 4N is possible for Nintendo because it's a very in demand node, doesn't Apple moving off 4N (TSMC 5nm) for their iPhone line (and soon probably M3 chips too) leave TSMC with a lot of open capacity for 4N?
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It is already on the decline as the premium node now in 2023 and by the time SNG releases in 2024 it will start moving towards a viable option for more budget oriented products as 3nm takes over as the new premium node. So like previously stated, demand from Apple and others starts to fall there will be new customers, but those customers are the one customers who wait for a node to become more affordable. If SNG had launched this year, especially 1H 2023, being on 4N would have been considered cutting edge, but for a 2024 product perfectly viable for a budget conscious devices.
oldpuck said:
Let’s assume this thing launches in holiday 2024 on 5nm. The same people saying it’s too advanced now will be the people saying that it’s outdated tech in 2025 with 3nm Blackwell almost out, and why didn’t Nintendo wait 6 months???
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Regardless of how cutting edge a console is when it launches, these are products that have a 7-10 year generation these days. So its certainly a talking point leading up to launch and shortly after, all these consoles become rather antiquated within a few years on the market. In the PC graphics card market, they will have gone through 4-5 generations of cards by the time the successor console releases. If bleeding edge technology is a priority for you, then perhaps console gaming isn't for you, because every console is dated shortly after release and sometimes already is by the time it launches.
 
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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Does he have any significant track record of success using this to predict things at any point in the past.
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Also, as I said in the post, the only restock listed for August 28th was the first Smash wave, and we did get a Sora Amiibo 17 days after, which falls in line with the 16-day average. I made a mistake and mistook the Smash Rosalina Amiibo as the SMB Rosalina one.
 
Paraspikey said:
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Also, as I said in the post, the only restock listed for August 28th was the first Smash wave, and we did get a Sora Amiibo 17 days after, which falls in line with the 16-day average. I made a mistake and mistook the Smash Rosalina Amiibo as the SMB Rosalina one.
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Okay, I'm asking if you have actually used this successfully for a prediction in the past instead of just backfitting.

Like, have you looked at restock data that was N days away and then (at that point in time) used that data to make an accurate prediction.
 
D36 said:
Do any of us expect any sort of malfunctions with Redrakted NG when it comes out, much like the Switch had when it released? That's my one big fear as a potential early adopter.
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I never had any issues with either Switch model (launch/OLED) fwiw
 
Giancarlo said:
Yakuza collection for Switch sucessor? this seen too fishy to me, didnt the producer of the franchise stated theres will be no Yakuza on Nintendo consoles anymore?that Switch is not fit for the franchise.

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the director saying that the series is too "underground" for nintendo consoles is absolutely silly. they'll come to nintendo systems once one powerful enough to play them all releases. the amount of money being left on the table would be too much for execs to ignore.
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Okay, I'm asking if you have actually used this successfully for a prediction in the past instead of just backfitting.

Like, have you looked at restock data that was N days away and then (at that point in time) used that data to make an accurate prediction.
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Yes, in 2020/2021 I used this a lot to speculate when reveals are when they've 100% connected. I also just said the first Smash wave did connect to something, and that was the only one listed for August 28th. 16 days from August 28th was the 13th, the direct was on the 14th and we got the Sora Amiibo. Falling in line with the average.
I took a step back in 2022 from speculation, so I didn't use it a lot. There also weren't that many Amiibo leaks last year.

If you want specific examples:
SMB Mario: Restocked in September 2020 (SMB 35th Anniversary)
The Zelda Line: Restocked in September 2020 (Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity's announcement)
The Splatoon Line: Restocked in June 2020 and in February 2021 (Splatoon 2 Support coming back, Splatoon 3's announcement)
Cloud and Cloud P2: Restocked in late September 2020 (Steve's Smash reveal)
Ryu: Restocked in early September 2020 (Steve's Smash reveal)
The Pokemon Smash Line: Restocked in late November 2020 (Sephiroth's Smash reveal)

These were all leaked May 2020.
 
Skittzo said:
Having never worked with an EUV machine but being extremely familiar with the ins and outs of photolithography in general, why exactly are they so complex and sensitive? Just alignment?
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Alignment is obviously a major issue, when you're dealing with transistors smaller than the wavelength of the light you're using to do the etching, but the problem with EUV is literally all material in the universe is opaque to it. That includes air, which means the entire lithography process from laser to impact with the wafer has to be done in a vacuum.

And it requires true defect free mirrors, again because of the smallness of the wavelength. Defect free mirrors are created by making 99.999% defect free mirrors with a "conventional" process, then lasering individual molecules back into alignment. But, since EUV is opaque to just about everything, 98% of the light is absorbed by the mirrors.

Which then require an even brighter laser to get any energy transfer to the silicon. But at that point, the power of the laser is higher than the laser used to correct the molecular defects of the mirror. Which means that each molecule of the mirrors surface can only be used X number of times, with X approaching 1.

So the machine needs to keep track of essentially every position the mirror has ever been in, and plot a new route for the laser in real time across the wafer to still etch a repeating pattern - and it has to do all this additional complexity in an environment that needs to be a near perfect vacuum. And said vacuum needs to be lost and regained outside of a lab environment because the mirror needs regular replacing.

In fairness, human beings build lots of highly complicated machines all the time, and things like the LHC are arguably more complex, but the EUV devices are at a level of complexity that is unheard of for a machine that the company would like to eventually make dozens, if not hundreds of.
 
Paraspikey said:
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Also, as I said in the post, the only restock listed for August 28th was the first Smash wave, and we did get a Sora Amiibo 17 days after, which falls in line with the 16-day average. I made a mistake and mistook the Smash Rosalina Amiibo as the SMB Rosalina one.
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I'm gonna be honest here - I feel the connections are so loose and the window of relation so large (two months on either side is pretty wide) that I feel this is just noise coupled with confirmation bias. Some of them are relevant, yes, absolutely, but Marth and Ike being restocked (and likely sold out) two entire months before a new Fire Emblem game that doesn't feature them was revealed in an E3 Direct just doesn't strike me as meaningful.

It's curious that so many different series are apparently being restocked at once, but there could easily be another explanation for that too on the supply chain side.
 
Paraspikey said:
Hello! I'm not sure where to put this, so I'll put it here since it relates to a possible hardware reveal. Like last time, since this is going to be a bit of a long post, I'll provide a TLDR at the end.

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On August 29th, I posted a big Amiibo post in the old Direct speculation thread, pointing to us getting Metroid, Zelda, Mario, and Smash content in the September Direct due to dated Amiibo restock listings.
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In this post, of course, we didn't get anything like that in the direct, beyond the obvious Mario stuff and the Sora Amiibo.
Today, I looked back at the dated Amiibo, and I got some stuff wrong that made me jump to incomplete guesses. I wanted to make a post correcting myself and presenting the research.
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This is the Amiibo source for the restock dates.

In this big post, I listed the following:

Some things that were incorrect:

1. The SMB Rosalina and Boo restocks weren't on the 28th. They were for November 10th. Meaning we've yet to see what they connected to. This also means the only thing that was dated was the Smash restocks, which connected to us getting the Sora Amiibo.
2. The Metroid, Zelda, and Odyssey restock were always dated, specifically for November 10th. When I made this list, I had no clue when these restocks were, so I just listed "Fall 2023."
3. The first Smash wave did not relate to new content but rather related to a Sora Amiibo, which is the first time they've ever announced a brand new Amiibo that isn't alongside brand new content.

Since I had no idea that the "Fall 2023" restocks were happening on November 10th, I incorrectly assumed that they were going to be for the fall direct. This, clearly, did not happen. I also mistook the SMB Rosalina and Boo restocks being on the same day as the first Smash wave, but that was not the case.

Despite the speculation not panning out in the direct, this is actually good news. The ONLY Amiibo restock that was dated for the 28th did lead to something, being the first Smash wave. While it wasn't software, it still connected to a Smash thing that proves the Smash team is back together working on something since they need to go back and update the game.
What does this mean?

We should see something relating to Metroid, Zelda, Mario, and Smash around November 10th.
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How does this relate to new hardware?
There are a few reasons why this relates to new hardware being revealed around this time. For starters, they can't really have any other event in the year where they could possibly show stuff for all of those franchises.
We also have Nintendo's FY earnings report out on November 7th.
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In 2016, we got the full NX reveal on October 20th. Their earnings release was a week after, on October 26th.
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We also know from the recent NatetheHate podcast that March 2024 was talked about, and we know from other reports that Nintendo wanted to get their system out "ASAP."
If that date is the release month, what could launch the system? A 3D Mario is extremely unlikely. The same goes for whatever the next Smash thing is. So what could it be? Well, we have an earlier rumor from Grubb that we should have seen Prime 2 Remastered this year, and we have a random Samus restock on November 10th. This heavily suggests to me that we'll get a Prime 4 reveal later this year, and when they do that, they'll shadowdrop Prime 2 and/or 3 on the eShop.
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Jeff Grubb also said we should see a hardware reveal by the end of the year. "Late 2023." (There are also multiple other reports suggesting an early 2024 launch; the only thing going against that idea is the Eurogamer report, to my knowledge, anyway.)
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We also have a 16-day average for Amiibo restocks and the news they connect to. Since the only restock that was actually dated for the 28th was Smash, the 16-day average worked out since we got the Sora Amiibo in the direct. 16 days before November 10th is October 26th, 16 days after November 10th is November 26th.

With the Sora Amiibo panning out, there are too many restocks happening specifically on the 10th for me to ignore. We could also see something on November 7th, the same day as the FY report, since that's the same week as the mass restocks and is not in the same week as any game release.
November 7th is a Tuesday, but they also revealed the OLED on a Tuesday.

2 other things to account for is that the new Amiibo restocks do not have any console branding on them, and they've still yet to announce the first Smash wave... despite them always announcing restocks when they don't relate to anything.

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TLDR:
In my Amiibo research, I made assumptions about the stuff being revealed in the September direct due to the lack of knowledge on when most of the restocks were. I also had the error of thinking the SMB Rosalina and Boo restocks were on August 28th. They weren't. They're slated for November 10th.
Currently, nothing else makes sense to be that late into the year beyond a new hardware reveal, something like the NX where they show gameplay on the new system. The only restock that was dated for the 28th was the Smash one, and that DID end up panning out, even if it wasn't software-related.

Based on current patterns, we could see something within the timeframe of October 26th - November 26th. With Nintendo's Earnings Release happening on the 7th, the hardware reveal happening on October 30th - November 7th makes the most amount of sense.

Here is an updated list of definitive dates with Amiibo restocks and what they could relate to.
-August 28th, 2023: Smash Series Restock Wave 1 [Sora Amiibo Reveal]
-November 10th, 2023: Smash Series Restock Wave 2 [New Content tease with new hardware? Sora Amiibo Release Date?]
-November 10th, 2023: SMB Rosalina and Boo Restock [Something Mario? SMRPG?]
-November 10th, 2023: Wedding Mario, Peach, and Bowser Restock [3D Mario tease with new hardware? Something with Odyssey? SMRPG?]
-November 10th, 2023: The Champions, Wolf Link, Archer Link, and Links Awakening Link [Something else Zelda? BOTW Demo reveal with new hardware? Zelda/Ganon Amiibo?)
-November 10th, 2023: Metroid Line Samus [Metroid Prime 4 Re-reveal alongside a hardware reveal] (There's not much else this could even be for)

My hope is that people do not dismiss the entire theory due to it not panning out in the Nintendo Direct. That assumption was due to me not knowing when the dates of the Amiibo restocks were. Now that I know, it's clear to me that we should see something around the given timeframe. The only thing that makes sense, again, is a new hardware reveal.
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Thank you for reading; if you did, something weird is clearly going on, and I hope with this updated information, people can take the theory seriously since the reason why it didn't pan out when I thought at first was due to me making assumptions on dates. I would also like to apologize for getting possible hopes up, specifically about Smash and Metroid in the last direct. Speculation fails sometimes due to incomplete information, and that is exactly what happened with the direct. Now that I have more accurate information, I hope this will be a more accurate conclusion.
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is the Metroid amiibo restock smash, samus returns, or dread? the dread amiibo are kinda already everywhere. im hoping its the samus returns ones, i missed those.
 
darthdiablo said:
I don't recall any discussion around here saying the next console controller will be rounder? Unless you're talking about the recent wafer cutting discussion, then LOL.
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Jersh said:
I'm gonna be honest here - I feel the connections are so loose and the window of relation so large (two months on either side is pretty wide) that I feel this is just noise coupled with confirmation bias. Some of them are relevant, yes, absolutely, but Marth and Ike being restocked (and likely sold out) two entire months before a new Fire Emblem game that doesn't feature them was revealed in an E3 Direct just doesn't strike me as meaningful.

It's curious that so many different series are apparently being restocked at once, but there could easily be another explanation for that too on the supply chain side.
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I have no clue when the Marth and Ike Amiibo were actually restocked, all I know is that on March 8th, 2018, they were listed to be sometime in Spring. I can't find a date for them anywhere, so I just listed them as "Spring 2018", Spring lasts until late June.
I should of also clarified that some of these are general timeframes, and when I say "1 month later", it could of been listed in late in a month for example, and 2-3 weeks later we get a direct with the things the restocks were for in it. I put "1 month later" for simplicity.
 
carbvan said:
is the Metroid amiibo restock smash, samus returns, or dread? the dread amiibo are kinda already everywhere. im hoping its the samus returns ones, i missed those.
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Samus Returns. Retailers are still selling Dread stock, and we got her Smash Amiibo restocked on the 28th.
 
carbvan said:
the director saying that the series is too "underground" for nintendo consoles is absolutely silly. they'll come to nintendo systems once one powerful enough to play them all releases. the amount of money being left on the table would be too much for execs to ignore.
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Hey man, people of the night world like Yokoyama don't want to be seen walking around the day with everyone else. Switch 2 won't be sufficiently "underground." Unless DLSS can make it more "underground?"
 
Paraspikey said:
Yes, in 2020/2021 I used this a lot to speculate when reveals are when they've 100% connected. I also just said the first Smash wave did connect to something, and that was the only one listed for August 28th. 16 days from August 28th was the 13th, the direct was on the 14th and we got the Sora Amiibo. Falling in line with the average.
I took a step back in 2022 from speculation, so I didn't use it a lot. There also weren't that many Amiibo leaks last year.

If you want specific examples:
SMB Mario: Restocked in September 2020 (SMB 35th Anniversary)
The Zelda Line: Restocked in September 2020 (Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity's announcement)
The Splatoon Line: Restocked in June 2020 and in February 2021 (Splatoon 2 Support coming back, Splatoon 3's announcement)
Cloud and Cloud P2: Restocked in late September 2020 (Steve's Smash reveal)
Ryu: Restocked in early September 2020 (Steve's Smash reveal)
The Pokemon Smash Line: Restocked in late November 2020 (Sephiroth's Smash reveal)

These were all leaked May 2020.
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Thank you.

Still just expecting a Christmas season restock and maybe a "celebrating five years of Smash Ultimate" video.
 
Paraspikey said:
I have no clue when the Marth and Ike Amiibo were actually restocked, all I know is that on March 8th, 2018, they were listed to be sometime in Spring. I can't find a date for them anyway, so I just listed them as "Spring 2018", Spring lasts until late June.
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Fair enough.

We'll see if anything happens, but it's still an assortment I can't make much sense of.
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Okay, but like 80% of the people arguing this point previously argued that Nintendo was refusing to announce the Switch 2 in February (for a late 2023 launch) to not harm the Switch 1's sales in what are usually slow months.

Announcing the Switch 2 immediately before Christmas shopping instead of in August makes no sense.
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I've never seen anybody make that point, and I would counter your final line by saying it makes perfect sense as the announcement of new hardware on top of the presumed clearance announcement that follows accomplishes a couple of important things; for one it sells the remaining units to the people who were going to buy them this year anyway and at reduced cost, it then ensures a buyer base for the new hardware by making people aware they should save their money, because letting that expenditure happen only to then announce a new generation for release shortly thereafter will cut into those sales, which are frankly the much more important sales since the Switch is effectively done

Honestly, you're putting way too much stock into the significance of the Christmas shopping appeal, outside of the USA it's not that big of a deal
 
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Jersh said:
Fair enough.

We'll see if anything happens, but it's still an assortment I can't make much sense of.
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If you want more context for everything, you can look at the original post here: https://famiboards.com/threads/nintendo-direct-speculation-st6-it’s-prime-time-for-some-more-wonderful-speculation-spoiler-crowd-remain-in-this-thread-until-the-direct-ends.7122/page-50#post-788707
Some things like the "1 month later" thing were simplified since it would of taken a lot more work to type out "3 weeks before" when a restock happens late in a month and a direct happens 3 weeks after with the thing the restock was for in it.
 
ziggyrivers said:
Speaking of restocks, has anyone followed the Pro Controller stocks? I’m having a hard time finding one in several Walmarts
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I read somewhere that it was just an online thing but it was just a random tweet so take that as you will. I haven't heard or seen anyone finding the smash controller in person yet either.
 
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SirArthur said:
I know Gotham Knights was rated for switch but what if they decided to wait will switch 2 and call the game: Gotham Knights Drake Edition cause Tim Drake is in the roster.....

His headlines are always a treat lol.
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WB is releasing extremely aggressive downports so I assume this is just for the Switch.
 
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oldpuck said:
Alignment is obviously a major issue, when you're dealing with transistors smaller than the wavelength of the light you're using to do the etching, but the problem with EUV is literally all material in the universe is opaque to it. That includes air, which means the entire lithography process from laser to impact with the wafer has to be done in a vacuum.

And it requires true defect free mirrors, again because of the smallness of the wavelength. Defect free mirrors are created by making 99.999% defect free mirrors with a "conventional" process, then lasering individual molecules back into alignment. But, since EUV is opaque to just about everything, 98% of the light is absorbed by the mirrors.

Which then require an even brighter laser to get any energy transfer to the silicon. But at that point, the power of the laser is higher than the laser used to correct the molecular defects of the mirror. Which means that each molecule of the mirrors surface can only be used X number of times, with X approaching 1.

So the machine needs to keep track of essentially every position the mirror has ever been in, and plot a new route for the laser in real time across the wafer to still etch a repeating pattern - and it has to do all this additional complexity in an environment that needs to be a near perfect vacuum. And said vacuum needs to be lost and regained outside of a lab environment because the mirror needs regular replacing.

In fairness, human beings build lots of highly complicated machines all the time, and things like the LHC are arguably more complex, but the EUV devices are at a level of complexity that is unheard of for a machine that the company would like to eventually make dozens, if not hundreds of.
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Incredible, thank you.

I looked into it more and yeah I guess I hadn't considered alllll of the ramifications that come with "everything is opaque to it". Masks need to be built differently because simple shadow masks will start to fail much more quickly due to reacting with the light. You need to worry about photoresist outgassing, if the intensity is a touch too high or the wafer is in there a few seconds too long. A lot of interesting stuff, yeah.
 
bellydrum said:
Perfect! I'm betting for H2 anyway.

So, here are the terms:

If the next Nintendo console (the followup to the Nintendo Switch, the console we're referring to in this thread as the "Switch 2") does not release in H1, which ends June 30th, 2024, then Team H1 loses the bet.

If said console does not release in H2, which starts July 1, 2024, then Team H2 loses the bet.

Loser has to take this avatar....... for half a year.

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TLZ said:
Yes, but not remotely close to the joycons drift case.


And you know exactly why Nintendo fixed them for free. Because of the massive joycons drift backlash and lawsuit in the US. Otherwise they'd have treated you just the same as Sony, which in fact what happened to me because I don't live in the US. They didn't even bother acknowledging the drift after I sent it to them and made me pay for shipping and other costs. Asshats.

In the end I fixed it myself using the cardboard fix. But even this didn't last long.
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Don't know what country you are but let's just say I'm European and I still could get the replacement
 
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oldpuck said:
Alignment is obviously a major issue, when you're dealing with transistors smaller than the wavelength of the light you're using to do the etching, but the problem with EUV is literally all material in the universe is opaque to it. That includes air, which means the entire lithography process from laser to impact with the wafer has to be done in a vacuum.

And it requires true defect free mirrors, again because of the smallness of the wavelength. Defect free mirrors are created by making 99.999% defect free mirrors with a "conventional" process, then lasering individual molecules back into alignment. But, since EUV is opaque to just about everything, 98% of the light is absorbed by the mirrors.

Which then require an even brighter laser to get any energy transfer to the silicon. But at that point, the power of the laser is higher than the laser used to correct the molecular defects of the mirror. Which means that each molecule of the mirrors surface can only be used X number of times, with X approaching 1.

So the machine needs to keep track of essentially every position the mirror has ever been in, and plot a new route for the laser in real time across the wafer to still etch a repeating pattern - and it has to do all this additional complexity in an environment that needs to be a near perfect vacuum. And said vacuum needs to be lost and regained outside of a lab environment because the mirror needs regular replacing.

In fairness, human beings build lots of highly complicated machines all the time, and things like the LHC are arguably more complex, but the EUV devices are at a level of complexity that is unheard of for a machine that the company would like to eventually make dozens, if not hundreds of.
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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
What is the possible reason for Nintendo doing a Switch 2 blowout on November 7th instead of in August.

What benefits are there if any.
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Nov/Dec are the two months least likely in general to announce hardware, it’s holiday/sales season. Even Jan reveal into March release is more likely
 
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ziggyrivers said:
Speaking of restocks, has anyone followed the Pro Controller stocks? I’m having a hard time finding one in several Walmarts
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Personally, you're probably better off getting a 3rd-party controller. I got one from Target around 3 months ago, but just after Target's return period, I noticed the analog stick wasn't working properly. Unless I release from a full tilt, it would not center, registering a slight press in the direction I let it go from. Calibrating did nothing. I contacted Nintendo about getting it inspected/repaired, and that particular problem was not covered under warranty, so they were going to charge me $30 for the inspection/repair. I ended up buying a GuliKit KingKong 2 Pro for the same price as a Pro Controller. As far as I'm aware, it support all Pro Controller features, including Amiibo (but not necessarily all Amiibo-based devices like the N2 Elite). I haven't tested it myself though as I don't have any Amiibo.

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I can see Yakuza getting a Switch 1/Switch NG announcement starting with a Origins (0/Kiwami 1) and Remastered Collection (3/4/5) for Switch 1, quick Kiwami 2 and dual pack of 6/7 for Switch NG.

Then release current titles like Ishin R, Gaiden and 8.
 
oldpuck said:
You're not wrong, it's just doesn't help the way it seems like it should. Chips are literally sliced with a saw (sometimes a laser saw, but a saw nonetheless) off of the wafer. That slicing process can (and does) damage chips. Slicing identically shaped, rectangular chips off the wafer minimizes the number of cuts, which increases yields. Using more of the wafer, but having a higher failure rate would be a net loss.

Because node capacity is sold by wafer, and wafers at each foundry are differently-expensive, it hides the reality, which is that the wafer is the cheap part. It's the "time in the oven" that's expensive. EUV machines are the most complex and sensitive machines humans build at any kind of scale - nuclear power plants are simpler - and calibration is tricky. A 50% increase in production time to use an extra 25% of the silicon would cause prices to go up, not down. That's one of the reason that this kind of complexity never seems to fly.
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Dude, such an excellent reply. Very enlightening. I knew there had to be a compounding factor I wasn't aware of. Thanks!
 
Concernt said:
Because it launches in early 2024, and not late 2024?
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Yeah. If they want to have a soft launch in March, yet they don't want to overshadow Wonder, having Wonder take a full week's worth of marketing before you reveal any new hardware makes sense.

People are also forgetting they specifically moved their Holiday bundle from November to October 6th for the first time ever. They want people to buy Holiday stuff earlier this year.


It's not just Mario Kart 8, there's also 2 brand new Animal Crossing bundles.

They even said in a press release that they're "celebrating the Holiday's early"


They have no reason to do these bundles earlier unless they were going to have something around the Holiday times that'll make it harder for Nintendo to only capitalize on Switch sales. They could be doing it during the Holidays since they could very well put up pre-orders for the system on the day it's revealed.
 
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Yeah, none of that makes any sense. I think nuking WarioWare and Mario RPG by revealing the Switch 2 four days after WarioWare and ten days before Mario RPG doesn't really make sense compared to just announcing in August like every normal company would (as there was nothing happening in August release-wise)

Doing easily the shortest announcement to release in gaming history, immediately before Christmas shopping, and while sending two games to die would be pretty weird.

This is very much like the "they don't want to distract away from TotK!" comments that were completely wrong.
 
carbvan said:
the director saying that the series is too "underground" for nintendo consoles is absolutely silly. they'll come to nintendo systems once one powerful enough to play them all releases. the amount of money being left on the table would be too much for execs to ignore.
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I'm starting to question how much life is left in the series. With 8 coming at a really bad time, it's gonna go through a rough patch unless the spinoffs can carry it
 
LoneRanger said:
I can see Yakuza getting a Switch 1/Switch NG announcement starting with a Origins (0/Kiwami 1) and Remastered Collection (3/4/5) for Switch 1, quick Kiwami 2 and dual pack of 6/7 for Switch NG.

Then release current titles like Ishin R, Gaiden and 8.
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Ain't no way they'd release the games like this lol. They already have collections made on every other platforms, they'd just reuse those. Also, you cannot sell only 0, 1K, 3, 4, and 5 on a console. 2K and 6 will not run on the Switch and they are kind of the end of story arcs. The beginning of 3 is the end sequence of 2, and ending the series on Switch with 5 would just be plain weird.
 
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For what it's worth, Nintendo did tease what would be the Nintendo DS in November, before formally announcing it in January. What Nintendo did two decades ago doesn't really mean much, I'm aware, but it is an example of past willingness to just announce new hardware during the holiday season. If they want to release this system in March, or even June, letting us know it exists before the end of the calendar year might be the play.
 
OctoSplattack said:
For what it's worth, Nintendo did tease what would be the Nintendo DS in November, before formally announcing it in January. What Nintendo did two decades ago doesn't really mean much, I'm aware, but it is an example of past willingness to just announce new hardware during the holiday season. If they want to release this system in March, or even June, letting us know it exists before the end of the calendar year might be the play.
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Brief announcements in Q4 are very common and happen (both the PS5 and Xbox Series X were announced in Q4 2019)

Full console blowouts in November (which is what would be required if the system launched in March) with no prior lead-up have not happened.

It just makes no sense compared to announcing in August.
 
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