Yeah this is pretty much what I expected, especially with Capcom.
I'm glad we got to a point of amicably replying to each other but dude it really isn't coming across that you're confident, more arrogant and condescending towards people. Please re-evaluate the way you're posting, surely you can see the common reaction to your posts isn't normal right? An example of confidence would be (my goat) oldpuck.
And from CD projekt red i wonder, is a Cyberpunk release on the Switch 2 feasible? They did manage to port Witcher 3 to the Switch, so they have proven their interest in working with Nintendo. Cyberpunk is technically a last gen title but probably the most difficult last gen title to port over to the Switch 2. But nothing would prove the hardware upgrade Switch 2 has over the Switch if it can get a game like Cyberpunk running on it.
The brief period from 2017-2018 where I would be confused that I didn't see the Nintendo Switch logo at the end of every trailer I watched. I want that ignorance back but for the next 5 years lol.
Capcom, Sega/Atlus, Bandai Namco & Square Enix i expect bigger support than they were on switch 1 tbh, we could see previously "modern" games (like KH3, FF7R, RE-engine RE games, SF6, P3R, Yakuza, Tales of Arise, Elden Ring, etc...)
If you can slap CP2077, GTA6 or Elden Ring onto your system for day 1, that's pretty much all you need in order to say "Yeah we can compete".
Well, I have a source that tells me Nintendo fans make predictions. 100% verified trust me bro
Frankly the lack of Persona 3 Reload port for Sw1 basically shouted "Yeah Atlus is waiting for the easier port job". There's literally no other reason why they wouldn't. I can also expect a lot of native ports of the games you mentioned... maybe with the exception of Yakuza but that depends on if the series producer has a change of heart.
And we of course already know that the deal between Microsoft and Nintendo regarding CoD starts with the Switch 2. So that is another franchise on Switch 2 that never released on the Switch. So yes Switch 2 will have more third party support, from bigger studios in Japan and the west compared to the Switch.
Cyberpunk seems to run okay on the SD. I think that should be the benchmark.
Random thought: What about Bethesda? I know it's not likely that the big stuff (namely Starfield) will appear on Switch due to exclusivity reasons, but what about stuff like Hi-Fi Rush? That's a game that'd feel right at home on a Nintendo system imo and considering it was very clearly released with the idea of it being a Game Pass title, a second-life on the Switch would work for the title imo.
The trajectory isn't about the software though, software is of course important but software is usually on a delayed trajectory due to software being more reliant on the entire userbase. The hardware sales are certainly not basically flat and is declining. There are sales trackers that have shown the Switch is declining, we are simply too late in the product cycle for sales to be reversed outside of major, major selling games like Zelda. Mario will be major, major but it's releasing during the holiday season, that is much harder to reverse. Pokemon learned that last year. Switch will have the most amazing year 7 in history but what puts that in jeopardy would be a Switch 2 annoucement and release early next year. No console in history has not been affected by its successor to release, how can you really believe it would still accomplish this goal with a successor early next year? That's just something I can't forsee and tons of past data points to it not happening. That's why Im so confident.
I can have confidence in the things I say. If I wasn't touching a nerve then you and many others wouldn't be so bothered. It's nothing more than my speculation with Nintendo's data to support it. You talk about self-importance but are in this post speaking for everyone with nonsense like "you just annoy everybody", like seriously this is straight up "karen" behavior. Boo hoo, he said something I don't like and even through in numbers, now im a victim. Nobody gives a fuck, yet it bothered you this much to villainize me. I didn't reply to any of your post, I made my own and some of you got bent out of shape and are now trying to victimize yourselves. I never said you lacked data, I presented mine supplied by Nintendo (its public data) and used to justify why I believe what I believe. That simple. If you weren't offended then you could have moved on. You clearly care and that's not my over confidence, that's your bending over backwards to address me that proves it. If you respond, ill respond via direct message so we no longer derail.
I haven't been driven nuts, like seriously you guys are acting like I replied to your post when it was the other way around. Several posters memed, was condescending, and attacked my post yet im the one being the asshole? Like @bellydrum for example claims no one cares yet so many of you bent over backward to address it? Like lets be serious, me and my data wasn't what some of you wanted to see and now some of you are bending over backwards to make yourselves out to be victims. I'm an asshole according to you because my post was direct and against what some of you wanted to here. Im not going to sit here and let some of you paint me as a villiam because you don't like what I said. That's "karen" like behavior. Ill make this my last post on this subject, ill rather participate in real discussion.
Very comparable at same clocks. But the consoles will have higher clocks than anything that is reasonable for the Switch.
Cognitive Dissonance.
From Bethesda only expect Quake remake type of games just like in Playstation case. Nintendo will get only the same games as Playstation bar situations like 007 or Banjo in NSO.
I hope not friend, Xbox already used X enough.
Lol, that was good. I must admit.
I might as well say it here because it's funny enough, but the Discord I'm in decided to just call it the "Switch REX" in relation to the glow-up between Xenoblade 2's Rex and FR's Rex (in addition to being a reference to the Monado Replica EX or REX) and it kinda caught on. Frankly, there are far worse names for a Switch successor than that if we're talking unironically.I hope not friend, Xbox already used X enough.
I’m still hoping it will be called Super Nintendo Switch.
If the word on the street is true about an Oblivion remake, maybe that will come over?
Not replying to anyone in particular:
Regarding Nintendo’s financial forecast for FY03/2024, it wouldn’t be unusual if Nintendo revise later. During the Switch era, they did it twice in FY23, twice in FY22, once in FY21, once in FY20, and twice in FY18.
Regarding the potential impact to stock performance, since Investors have been clamoring for a Switch successor, announcing it will most likely drive up the stock valuation even if it may depress the holiday sales in the short term.
For this FY at least, stock analysts don’t seem to take Nintendo’s guidance seriously, so neither should we. According to a Nikkei survey of analyst forecasts, the average of their FY24 net profit expectations is 422.7BN yen. That’s 82.7BN yen above Nintendo’s official forecast of 340BN yen—a 24% divergence!
2GHz would be the best for Switch 2
Join us, thrive.Haven’t checked the hardware speculation thread in a few days. Let’s have a look-see…
No good reason to change it.
If Nintendo announces a successor before the end of the fiscal, it is likely to have a short term impact on the current machine's sales. This is a well known economic force called the Osborne Effect.
Now this is the type of discussion im into! They certainly can revise but you don't think its weird that Nintendo gives a reason everytime they do? You guys have to stop acting like it's no big deal to adjust their forcast. FY23 wasn't a good look, they overshot it and blamed chip shortages. FY22, FY21, and FY20 were all affected by the pandemics unpredictable demand. FY18 was notorious for Labo underperforming and Smash and Pokemon not being able to make up for that underperformance from Labo. Nintendo predicted 20 million that fiscal year. Nintendo doesn't make forecast just adjust later, they are meant to be accurate and shows a misunderstanding of their own business when they miss their forecast. Look at Sony and how they are bending over backwards with multiple price cuts for the PS5 to make it's lofty goal of 25 million. These forecast are serious, not just goals they are remaining hopeful of. They should be accurate.Not replying to anyone in particular:
Regarding Nintendo’s financial forecast for FY03/2024, it wouldn’t be unusual if Nintendo revise later. During the Switch era, they did it twice in FY23, twice in FY22, once in FY21, once in FY20, and twice in FY18.
Regarding the potential impact to stock performance, since Investors have been clamoring for a Switch successor, announcing it will most likely drive up the stock valuation even if it may depress the holiday sales in the short term.
For this FY at least, stock analysts don’t seem to take Nintendo’s guidance seriously, so neither should we. According to a Nikkei survey of analyst forecasts, the average of their FY24 net profit expectations is 422.7BN yen. That’s 82.7BN yen above Nintendo’s official forecast of 340BN yen—a 24% divergence!
Like you said Switch is in its 7th year and hardware sales are at that point usually not a focus anymore of console life cycles. Yes normally the hardware and software sales are always delayed to each other: Usually (if everything goes well) the first few years a console sells a lot to get a big userbase. But then in the later years a console will sell more software because of said big ideally active userbase.
The first part not the second. The analyst consensus is that Nintendo forecast for this FY is an extreme lowball. They seem to believe that the windfall from the Mario movie, TotK, and other titles will substantially surpass Nintendo’s guidance. One well-known analyst (sorry I can’t find the link atm) even thinks that the hardware units will surprise people.
Switch holiday sales, anounce the Switch sucessor now, and risk precious holiday sales, specially now Nintendo is heavily marketing Super Mario Bros Wonder
Ah, got it, thanks.
this analysists dont know the power of 2D Mario, easily capable of selling 25/30 milions units
This helps a lot too, thanks.
No certainty on my part. That's why I try to use NG or Redacted.
I think you're reading it backwards. Investors think Nintendo's forecast is almost comically low, their projections have them surpassing the forecast by a lot.
Coming into a thread and starting off a post by accusing us of twisting facts to support our own wishes, then digging your heels in and continuing to insist you're simply right and then calling people who call you out on your attitude "karens," is a very karen thing to do ya know
Again, the very first thing you did was accuse the thread of "spinning" things to fit what we want
Suggesting the people who are upset about your attitude are covering up some deep understanding that you're actually right about it all is some borderline gaslighty stuff
Actually the reason it got under my skin is because you're being an absolute jerk to people who are just trying to have some fun in here.
Although I disagree and do think the Switch's trajectory will help determine when the successor is released, I can atleast respect your well thought out reasoning. This is the type of discussion I like, nothing I can really dispute because Switch is a special case. It is aiming to outsell the highest of them all, that right there tells you it's a special case on top of the pandemic sending it through the roof. Nintendo may have always planned on holiday 2023 but the pandemic greatly boosted it's peak to high to even entertain this holiday. Yeah alot of people are late adopters but it doesn't help that the leading selling Switch is a premium model Switch, I would certainly say some of these people would be unhappy with finally upgrading to Oled and then finding out 6 months later a Switch 2 is coming. That's why I don't like the introduction of that red Oled, I also can't imagine what the software would be because a new 2D Mario is releasing in October and then a new 3D Marion in March? I'm sorry but I just don't see it along with the fiscal year goal.
I actually want to bring this up briefly before I actually do the smart thing and get some sleep.
What 3D Mario in March?
I think he's referring to the 3D Mario title that's acting as a launch-title. Frankly, I have no goddamn clue as to what's going to be the launch title for the Switch 2 and I thought the 3D Mario would be a safe bet, but if y'all are having doubts... idk.
Accusing? Lol, that's exactly what several of you did. There were post saying that the same bundles Nintendo as always done is proof of Switch 2 is right around the corner. I have read my post again and seriously don't see what the big deal is. Several of you got bent out of shape about what I said and instead of addressing the things I said, you focused on my "attitude", like any of you say my face or heard my tone but instantly determined I was being malicous. The majority dodged addressing what I said and instead focused on turning me into your villian. You reacted to me with emotion and dodged anything about my post because I used Nintendo's public data to suggest Nintendo probably can't annouce without affecting their goals. Plenty of you could have done that and several of you have including lexony but instead the vast majority became victims. I didn't insist I was simply right, like your post is complete nonsense, I can be confident in my speculation. Notice that not one time have I resorted to name calling but im the jerk? Ill respond to direct messages if you want to continue this, so we don't derail.
