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After the last Nintendo Direct it was pretty obvious there’s no console coming this year.

I, like many of you believe that like Switch the hardware could have been ready for Tears of the Kingdom launch at best and this September at worst but Nintendo want an internally confirmed, strong first year of at least 5 first party releases (be it some cross gen games or not) for a successful first year on the market.

My personal opinion that’s probably way off is that the new console will be teased at the Game Awards in December. Fully revealed in a January youtube video, then a massive Direct in February and actually launched at $400 in late March next year. The first party line up of games to propel it forward will be Mario Kart X, Splatoon 4, Luigi’s Mansion 4, Xenoblade Next and Super Mario Odyssey 2.
 
After the last Nintendo Direct it was pretty obvious there’s no console coming this year.

I, like many of you believe that like Switch the hardware could have been ready for Tears of the Kingdom launch at best and this September at worst but Nintendo want an internally confirmed, strong first year of at least 5 first party releases (be it some cross gen games or not) for a successful first year on the market.

My personal opinion that’s probably way off is that the new console will be teased at the Game Awards in December. Fully revealed in a January youtube video, then a massive Direct in February and actually launched at $400 in late March next year. The first party line up of games to propel it forward will be Mario Kart X, Splatoon 4, Luigi’s Mansion 4, Xenoblade Next and Super Mario Odyssey 2.
I think the full reveal will come earlier than that.

I expect a reveal in November at the latest, around the same time Switch was announced. But who knows...
 
I think the full reveal will come earlier than that.

I expect a reveal in November at the latest, around the same time Switch was announced. But who knows...
Yeah I hope so and like some people say would Nintendo trust another entity to even tease it nevermind reveal it.

One thing they can’t ignore is the sheer number of eyeballs of their target audience that Geoff has built. I’m sure the viewership goes up every single year. It’s unreal how huge game awards has gotten.
 
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So right now the bottleneck is Macronix unable to keep up production of higher capacity ROM cards?

But yeah, I'm surprised how cheap even 1TB microSD cards have gotten. I'm just kind of shocked that if solid state storage has gotten this inexpensive, then why not solid state ROMs? It's kinda weird that both don't scale economically at the same rate.
"Solid state" just means no moving parts. What people associate with "solid state" is just the connector (pcie) and you can have that on an hdd (not gonna do you any good, of course).

XtraROM is just bound by other problems that stem from nintendo's desire for longevity, if i remember correctly. And long lasting mediums are typically more difficult to work with
 
After the last Nintendo Direct it was pretty obvious there’s no console coming this year.

I, like many of you believe that like Switch the hardware could have been ready for Tears of the Kingdom launch at best and this September at worst but Nintendo want an internally confirmed, strong first year of at least 5 first party releases (be it some cross gen games or not) for a successful first year on the market.

My personal opinion that’s probably way off is that the new console will be teased at the Game Awards in December. Fully revealed in a January youtube video, then a massive Direct in February and actually launched at $400 in late March next year. The first party line up of games to propel it forward will be Mario Kart X, Splatoon 4, Luigi’s Mansion 4, Xenoblade Next and Super Mario Odyssey 2.
Games Awards sounds also right for first teaser/reveal, IF Nintendo want to go this way. But we also know that Nintendo only pushed the Keighley Awards, because Reggie seems to like Geoff Keighley. So wouldn't count on that too, as the Redacted Marketing will be 100% controlled from Japan and I doubt Bowser would try hard to convince upper management to use the VGA for the reveal. So it would need to come from Japan directly. But a teaser could be possible, I personally believe on a surprise show in q1 like they had for the Switch.
 
Had a weird interaction in GameStop yesterday. I know I know... the first mistake I made was walking into a GameStop but anyway...

So I have undergone the process of going 100% digital on my Switch. I Sold my copies of BoTW, Mario Odyssey, Mario Tennis Aces, and MK8D since those were the last physical game copies. of games I eventually bought digitally. The GS employee was asking me why I was selling these since they were really good games and I told him what I was doing with the whole digital thing.

He gets like super straight-faced out of nowhere and straight up told me Nintendo never honors digital purchases on your account and that you technically don't really own the games and that they're being leased out to you or something lol. Mind you, I did not care about the semantics of ownership over software and all that mess, and just more or less said that I am over owning physical copies of anything but books and art really. I preserve all the games I own anyway so I have no fear of "the game is not really yours" boogie man.

He then proceeded to tell me that Nintendo's next console won't be able to play any of the games that I own digitally (as if physical copies have a better chance?). I ask him how he would know this and he just tells me it's because it's Nintendo lol. I told him that based on leaks, rumors, and very coy statements from Nintendo themselves it's very like the next console will be similar to Switch in that it's likely to be a hybrid and that I believe BC is happening.

He just kind of laughed then said, "ok man, I am telling you though, don't be surprised if these games end up on stuck on Switch and you can't take them with you anywhere else." I told him times are changing and that I'd probably cave in and buy a BoTW/ToTK remastered collection anyway but that I am not worried about BC. Now, BC is not confirmed and I have no reason to 100% believe the Drake won't have it via some kind of software layer other than my "hunch." But just imagine him saying this to some mom or dad who doesn't follow this shit at all and telling them that their digital purchase isn't a real purchase and it for sure won't carry over to the next Switch lol.

Moral of the story; I should have gone to Best Buy, sell them myself, or just donate them to a friend or family member or something.
 
The storage solution to me is pretty straight forward. UFS 3.1 for internal storage of 256GBs @ 2GB/s, and Samsung's UFS/MicroSD card slot. This allows Nintendo and 3rd parties the ability to assume everyone has ultra fast storage on their Switch 2 for development and features of engines like Nanite in UE5, allows customers to use their 1TB microsd card with 100 Switch games on it, and support a future standard for the eventual successor and just options for customers to expand while maintaining faster load times in games.

Thraktor, I want to thank you for finding that Gamecube info on SD cards, I remembered reading about it when I first really started following Nintendo tech threads in the lead up to Gamecube's launch, I always thought they should have launched the Gamecube with the SD card slot, GBA player and DVD drive built-in. I was a bit excited when Wii actually had the SD card slot built in.
 
I still see Nintendo trying to aim for a holiday release in 2024, holiday releases for hardware are beneficial for a lot of reasons and even an announcement as late as December for a Switch 2 could cut into console legs for 2023 holiday sales. There isn't really any incentive to announce the next hardware until after the fiscal year is over, there is plenty of announced software to have a lot of momentum this year and more to come that we don't know about.

I wouldn't rule out early 2024 entirely but I feel like they're gonna coast for another year and change.
 
I expect it [current year] + 1.

yes this post can be - and has been - recycled every year
Lol, I'm #forgetaboutitanditwillcomefasterthanyouwouldthinkteam but @currentyear+1team is one of my biggest pet peeves since 2020 like they're on that team from day 1 each year
 
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Nintendo has not made any official announcement regarding next-generation console, but it is likely that they will be introduced during FY2024, and at the general shareholders' meeting in June, President Shuntaro Furukawa explained that the company would "strive to make a successful transition (to next-generation console)" by utilizing the member registration service used for Switch and other products.
 
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Look, i don't wanna sound mean or confronting ... but could you at least post a little explanation about what site/topic you just linked? You gotta understand that the majority of the thread isn't able to read this. ^^
 
Can you please add some context?
 
I still see Nintendo trying to aim for a holiday release in 2024, holiday releases for hardware are beneficial for a lot of reasons and even an announcement as late as December for a Switch 2 could cut into console legs for 2023 holiday sales. There isn't really any incentive to announce the next hardware until after the fiscal year is over, there is plenty of announced software to have a lot of momentum this year and more to come that we don't know about.

I wouldn't rule out early 2024 entirely but I feel like they're gonna coast for another year and change.
The thing about momentum is that as you slow to an eventual stop, it takes more and more energy to accelerate again. The Wii to Wii U transition is a perfect example of this:

Had Wii U of released in 2010 (as Wii HD), it absolutely would have been a hit, people were looking for a Wii HD that year, 3rd parties wanted to support Nintendo's platform, and Wii U technology was from 2009, so it would not have been outdated, and fallen more into people's expectations, not to mention the following generation was 3 years off at that point, so plenty of time to build a market. This was the optimal time to launch Wii's successor. It's also worth noting that the iPad released in April of 2010, so Wii HD having a tablet controller would have been a huge boon, instead of a puzzling move. 50M+ units sold.

Had Wii U of released in 2011 with say Skyward Sword as a cross gen game, it would have picked up a lot more 3rd party support as next gen was still 2 years away, Nintendo would still need heavy hitters, but a NSMBU would have done a lot better as a Spring 2012 release, rather than a launch title. Gamecube and Wii games were also very easy to port over in HD, which is something Nintendo could have embraced a bit earlier, but this was a much harder time to get Wii U off the ground, however with a better launch title, next gen being further away, and Wii branding still strong. ~30M units sold.

Wii U released in 2012, we know what happened, but Wii branding did it absolutely no favors, the tablet idea was tethered and unappealing at this point, smart phones were also in everyone's hands, which made the 6.2inch Wii U gamepad screen, relatively redundant as a media/web browsing device. 3DS was also in real trouble in 2011, and shifted development to the handheld from it's console development. 13.65M units sold.

Switch 2 would have been perfectly positioned with TotK as a launch title this spring, Switch momentum has been slowing for 2 years now, and while it is still strong this year, it will continue to slow, from 15M this year to 10M? maybe 12M units? next year. Switch is running out of big IPs to sell on the system, mainline 3D Mario is next, and if that isn't saved for Switch 2's launch, the Switch 2 won't have a game of that caliber to launch with, and while next gen consoles are 3 years away next year, if Switch launches holiday 2024, there will be only 2 years before expectations of new console rumors and announced will start making the rounds, because 2027 or 2028 will be the target for next gen consoles. Nintendo also needs to release the next Switch soon for big upcoming 3rd party games, like DQ12, MH6 and Mass Effect 4. Nintendo will only continue to tell consumers those games are not for their products if they release without Switch ports because of performance of the device. Sure it will outsell the PS2, but Switch 2 will launch with little to no momentum behind it in late 2024 and especially into 2025.

Spring 2023 is the best time now to launch Switch 2, Switch momentum will last through the end of this year, and everyone will be ready for the next device starting January 1st 2024, Zelda DLC will likely come in Spring 2024, Mario 3D can come in Spring 2024 to launch alongside the system, and Nintendo can release Prime 4 in 2024's holidays, look at a new Mario Kart in early 2025 and maybe a new Smash in holiday 2025 (7 years after Ultimate's release).

EDIT: About Celine's post below, another piece of information people in this thread might not be entirely aware of is that Famicom's Anniversary is July 15th, where it will turn 40 years old. It will be 40 years old in 4 hours. While I don't expect Drake news in 4 hours, they will likely mention something about Famicom or their console business in the next 24 hours.
 
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Can you please add some context?
It's nothing of relevance for the thread.
It's just a standard story around Famicom 40th anniversary and how it shaped the console industry.
They speculate that the Switch successor will be launched next fiscal year.

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Maybe the most interesting info for casual observers is the chart that shows Nintendo's revenue and net income/loss through its console history:
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After the last Nintendo Direct it was pretty obvious there’s no console coming this year.

I, like many of you believe that like Switch the hardware could have been ready for Tears of the Kingdom launch at best and this September at worst but Nintendo want an internally confirmed, strong first year of at least 5 first party releases (be it some cross gen games or not) for a successful first year on the market.

My personal opinion that’s probably way off is that the new console will be teased at the Game Awards in December. Fully revealed in a January youtube video, then a massive Direct in February and actually launched at $400 in late March next year. The first party line up of games to propel it forward will be Mario Kart X, Splatoon 4, Luigi’s Mansion 4, Xenoblade Next and Super Mario Odyssey 2.

We’re not getting another new Mario kart for years. This one is still selling like crazy and we have one more DLC to come out. I don’t think they’d put resources into DLC for this game and then launch a new game a few months after the last DLC comes out?
 
We’re not getting another new Mario kart for years. This one is still selling like crazy and we have one more DLC to come out. I don’t think they’d put resources into DLC for this game and then launch a new game a few months after the last DLC comes out?
MK8 sold over 8 Million units on the Wii U, and proved that Mario Kart isn't a system seller, it's a companion piece of software that sells to people buying the system. I do believe we see Mario Kart 10 in Spring 2025, a little over a year after DLC for the 9 year old game ends, at which point it will be 11 years old.
 
We’re not getting another new Mario kart for years. This one is still selling like crazy and we have one more DLC to come out. I don’t think they’d put resources into DLC for this game and then launch a new game a few months after the last DLC comes out?
It would perhaps make sense as a Drake exclusive, to more quickly increase the install base. But maybe not as cross gen.
 
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The short time between announcement and release was possible in the eventuality of an upgrade, but if Nintendo wants to start a new generation and make people understand that this is indeed a new generation and that they should buy the new stuff, they'll want a longer marketing cycle, I'd say at least 6-7 months.
I'd bet that they will announce it early next year, maybe just before shareholder meeting early may at the latest, and will release holiday 24, or maybe early 25 if they feel software isn't ready yet.

2023 is totally out of the question now imo.
 
MK8 sold over 8 Million units on the Wii U, and proved that Mario Kart isn't a system seller, it's a companion piece of software that sells to people buying the system. I do believe we see Mario Kart 10 in Spring 2025, a little over a year after DLC for the 9 year old game ends, at which point it will be 11 years old.
I don't know if it proved that, because the Wii U was an exceptionally hard system to sell. On a more appealing system, it might have been.
 
We’re not getting another new Mario kart for years. This one is still selling like crazy and we have one more DLC to come out. I don’t think they’d put resources into DLC for this game and then launch a new game a few months after the last DLC comes out?
It‘s not like that they put exactly a lot of resources in this DLC tracks. Ignoring the bug fixing and small feature updates I‘d be surprised when more than 5 people worked on the actual tracks.
 
I think the full reveal will come earlier than that.

I expect a reveal in November at the latest, around the same time Switch was announced. But who knows...
summer of next year will be the reveal of the Switch sucessor for a fall/holiday release(around octobre/novembre).
 
I don't know if it proved that, because the Wii U was an exceptionally hard system to sell. On a more appealing system, it might have been.
Splatoon was a system seller, it was Mario Kart and Smash Brothers that proved that they were companion software, this bares a similar result on the Gamecube, Where software sold 13:1, the problem is simply that Mario Kart and Smash Brothers are collective IPs, they are Nintendo mascots, so if those mascots individually haven't brought in a larger market, the collective power of these mascots and the known content of these games, simply do not have much power to move hardware. It's in the individual mascots and their unknown content, that drive sales of the platform they exclusively exist on. This is why Mario 64, OoT, Twilight Princess, BotW, Mario Galaxy, Odyssey and TotK can drive sales, while collective mascot games like Mario Sports, Party, Karts and Smash don't drive platform sales, they are driven by platform sales, as companion software to the platform users have already bought into.

It is just speculation of course, but Smash Melee launched in January after Gamecube's launch, the knock against Gamecube's launch lineup was that there was no Mario game, that there was a tech demo with his brother instead via Luigi's Mansion.
 
The storage solution to me is pretty straight forward. UFS 3.1 for internal storage of 256GBs @ 2GB/s, and Samsung's UFS/MicroSD card slot. This allows Nintendo and 3rd parties the ability to assume everyone has ultra fast storage on their Switch 2 for development and features of engines like Nanite in UE5, allows customers to use their 1TB microsd card with 100 Switch games on it, and support a future standard for the eventual successor and just options for customers to expand while maintaining faster load times in games.

Thraktor, I want to thank you for finding that Gamecube info on SD cards, I remembered reading about it when I first really started following Nintendo tech threads in the lead up to Gamecube's launch, I always thought they should have launched the Gamecube with the SD card slot, GBA player and DVD drive built-in. I was a bit excited when Wii actually had the SD card slot built in.
While I had for a time considered UFS Card viable... I'm pretty sure now that it isn't. It's a long dead format with no signs of life.
 
While I had for a time considered UFS Card viable... I'm pretty sure now that it isn't. It's a long dead format with no signs of life.
The thing is, a 20M/year market is plenty to build a viable storage format around, especially if that format is an open standard. Most importantly the device can support both MicroSD (The only current viable external storage format) and UFS cards, with their own strengths and weaknesses. There is value in both formats and supported by one card slot. If Nintendo wants to, they can absolutely bring UFS cards into their own vibrant market. Thraktor points out that the entire digital camera industry that uses CFexpress, is outsold by Nintendo Switch 10:1 every year, and has 15 manufacturers, so there plenty of viable growth in a Switch 2 for a format like UFS cards without an existing market.
 
if Switch 2 comes in 1H 2024 i firmly believe Mario Kart will be the big holiday title. DLC has been nice but these tracks clearly haven't taken huge resources to port and were meant to tide us over given the constant updates Tour has received. 3D Mario & MP4 would be at launch as a nice complimentary pair of titles, one more mass appealing the other more adult in aesthetic.

talk of March seems optimistic, i would imagine May or later unless it gets announced pretty damn soon. no way it gets announced close to Christmas for a March release, if you think about when it would need to start mass production and to get ahead of leaks. the real question is when will they starting producing it? immediately in 2024 for a 1H release or into the next FY for a September-holiday release. my money would be on the latter.
 
I know a lot of people are expecting a 2023 reveal.

Opponents say it will damage Switch 1 sales this holiday.

Proponents then say:
  • A price drop for Switch 1 will mitigate that.
  • The people buying Switch 1 this holiday aren't the same audience buying Switch 2 in 2024.

But neither of those two arguments gives a good reason TO reveal in 2023, they're just arguments for mitigating the damage, I still don't see the actual incentives to reveal in 2023. Its basically an argument (very much assumption based) that a 2023 reveal will damage Switch sales by only 5% as opposed to 30% for example. But that's still a hypothetical 5% decrease. Why would Nintendo do that? Wheres the benefit, wheres the incentive behind a 2023 reveal?

To beat the leaks? I don't think that's something Nintendo would trade even a single lost Switch 1 sale for. They've been leaking info about games and hardware for years now, and they don't seem to be stressing or suffering over it.

So I ask, what is incentive to reveal in 2023? Sorry if this has already been explained, I haven't yet seen it. Many thanks!
(I'm open to the idea if I could just see a good reason).
 
Had a weird interaction in GameStop yesterday. I know I know... the first mistake I made was walking into a GameStop but anyway...

So I have undergone the process of going 100% digital on my Switch. I Sold my copies of BoTW, Mario Odyssey, Mario Tennis Aces, and MK8D since those were the last physical game copies. of games I eventually bought digitally. The GS employee was asking me why I was selling these since they were really good games and I told him what I was doing with the whole digital thing.

He gets like super straight-faced out of nowhere and straight up told me Nintendo never honors digital purchases on your account and that you technically don't really own the games and that they're being leased out to you or something lol. Mind you, I did not care about the semantics of ownership over software and all that mess, and just more or less said that I am over owning physical copies of anything but books and art really. I preserve all the games I own anyway so I have no fear of "the game is not really yours" boogie man.

He then proceeded to tell me that Nintendo's next console won't be able to play any of the games that I own digitally (as if physical copies have a better chance?). I ask him how he would know this and he just tells me it's because it's Nintendo lol. I told him that based on leaks, rumors, and very coy statements from Nintendo themselves it's very like the next console will be similar to Switch in that it's likely to be a hybrid and that I believe BC is happening.

He just kind of laughed then said, "ok man, I am telling you though, don't be surprised if these games end up on stuck on Switch and you can't take them with you anywhere else." I told him times are changing and that I'd probably cave in and buy a BoTW/ToTK remastered collection anyway but that I am not worried about BC. Now, BC is not confirmed and I have no reason to 100% believe the Drake won't have it via some kind of software layer other than my "hunch." But just imagine him saying this to some mom or dad who doesn't follow this shit at all and telling them that their digital purchase isn't a real purchase and it for sure won't carry over to the next Switch lol.

Moral of the story; I should have gone to Best Buy, sell them myself, or just donate them to a friend or family member or something.
Usually if anyone in public tried doing that I would avoid them and just respond “ok”, to finish it quickly because this is just weird and awkward. It’s giving second hand embarrassment.
 
if Switch 2 comes in 1H 2024 i firmly believe Mario Kart will be the big holiday title. DLC has been nice but these tracks clearly haven't taken huge resources to port and were meant to tide us over given the constant updates Tour has received. 3D Mario & MP4 would be at launch as this is a nice complimentary pair of titles, one more mass appealing the other more adult in aesthetic.

talk of March seems optimistic, i would imagine May or later unless it gets announced pretty damn soon. no way it gets announced close to Christmas for a March release, if you think about when it would need to start mass production and to get ahead of leaks. the real question is when will they starting producing it? immediately in 2024 for a 1H release or into the next FY for a September-holiday release. my money would be on the latter.
Your timeline here is wrong. Sample production (6 to 8 weeks before full production) can start in October, Ramp up production (~4 weeks before full production) can then start in November, this means December would start full production, if that number is ~33k a day, then 6M units can be shipped by the end of May. A reveal in January and a release in April or May could be more than enough to launch the Switch 2. Switch was revealed just 4 and a half months before release, this gives them 4+ months to reveal the console.

PS5 was revealed in June 2020 with a release just 5 months later, so this is pretty standard, production of the PS5 also started in April for the launch 7 months later, this would line up with the above timeframe of October to April/May for Switch 2.

It's also important to remember that Mario Kart 10's best impact is as an exclusive for Switch 2, this means it should come towards the end of a cross gen period, which is why Spring 2025 is a much better time to release if the console has been out a year at that point. It gives time to refresh the IP, if only a 15-18 month cool down.
 
Your timeline here is wrong. Sample production (6 to 8 weeks before full production) can start in October, Ramp up production (~4 weeks before full production) can then start in November, this means December would start full production, if that number is ~33k a day, then 6M units can be shipped by the end of May. A reveal in January and a release in April or May could be more than enough to launch the Switch 2. Switch was revealed just 4 and a half months before release, this gives them 4+ months to reveal the console.

PS5 was revealed in June 2020 with a release just 5 months later, so this is pretty standard, production of the PS5 also started in April for the launch 7 months later, this would line up with the above timeframe of October to April/May for Switch 2.

It's also important to remember that Mario Kart 10's best impact is as an exclusive for Switch 2, this means it should come towards the end of a cross gen period, which is why Spring 2025 is a much better time to release if the console has been out a year at that point. It gives time to refresh the IP, if only a 15-18 month cool down.
i'm disputing that it could be announced in November/December for a March release. all that seems very reasonable if it's coming 1H 2024 but we'd still be getting an announcement before the year is out and sooner rather than later if they don't want leaks.

i was on the MK10 being cross-gen train a while back but not anymore. agree it has to be exclusive and definitely within the first year, ideally the first big holiday unless the system itself is late 2024.
 
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i'm disputing that it could be announced in November/December for a March release. all that seems very reasonable if it's coming 1H 2024 but we'd still be getting an announcement before the year is out and sooner rather than later if they don't want leaks.
the Switch sucessor will not will be anounced this novembre/dezembre for 100%certainly, Nintendo dont want everyone holding off/waiting for it next-generation console, istead of buying Switch this holiday season
 
the Switch sucessor will not will be anounced this novembre/dezembre for 100%certainly, Nintendo dont want everyone holding off/waiting for it next-generation console, istead of buying Switch this holiday season

The PS5 and Xbox Series X were announced in October and December of 2019 respectively.

Nintendo could obviously wait until February 2024 for a November 2024 launch and that would be fine as well.

Q1 would be very hard to do an announcement for as they would have to do a lot of Switch 2 promotion during the holiday season which would probably hurt hardware sales.
 
Usually if anyone in public tried doing that I would avoid them and just respond “ok”, to finish it quickly because this is just weird and awkward. It’s giving second hand embarrassment.
to be fair to the employee this is the general peception of how Nintendo handles anything digital, way behind the curve with purchases locked onto devices. the onus will be on them to show they've caught up with the times and now building/continuing a platform with their next system, rather than starting again as usual.
 
I have a small question in regards to the medium the succesor could use. I have been hearing sounds that the current Game Cards that Nintendo use are still quite expensive. I can't really find anything about them and was wondering if this is true and if Nintendo would move to something else or keep them. Does someone has the answer for that :D?
 
It might hurt hardware sales, but if BC is a thing then it won't be as bad? Especially if peoples are holding off to buy the more expansive model.
 
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the Switch sucessor will not will be anounced this novembre/dezembre for 100%certainly, Nintendo dont want everyone holding off/waiting for it next-generation console, istead of buying Switch this holiday season
then in that case it very likely won't be coming in 1H 2023 but in 2H 2024 (which is what many people expect). or it leaks when they start production.

personally I don't see the big deal with announcing this year after their Mario title has hit. how many people who will be there at launch (which only needs to be a small percentage of existing owners) are realistically still in the market to buy an OG Switch this holiday. not very many i'd wager.
 
I have a small question in regards to the medium the succesor could use. I have been hearing sounds that the current Game Cards that Nintendo use are still quite expensive. I can't really find anything about them and was wondering if this is true and if Nintendo would move to something else or keep them. Does someone has the answer for that :D?
They are expensive, but it won't stop them from being used
 
The PS5 and Xbox Series X were announced in October and December of 2019 respectively.

Nintendo could obviously wait until February 2024 for a November 2024 launch and that would be fine as well.

Q1 would be very hard to do an announcement for as they would have to do a lot of Switch 2 promotion during the holiday season which would probably hurt hardware sales.
Switch 2 is already announced, Nintendo has said that they are working on the next system years ago. They didn't give it a project name and never said it is coming in a certain time, but marketing doesn't start until the reveal, not the announcement. Modern consoles are revealed just 4 or 5 months before release, so a reveal in January (like Switch's January 13th 2017 event) with a release 3-4 months later in April or May, is enough time to market the product, during a slow period of time for Switch.
 
I know a lot of people are expecting a 2023 reveal.

Opponents say it will damage Switch 1 sales this holiday.

Proponents then say:
  • A price drop for Switch 1 will mitigate that.
  • The people buying Switch 1 this holiday aren't the same audience buying Switch 2 in 2024.

But neither of those two arguments gives a good reason TO reveal in 2023, they're just arguments for mitigating the damage, I still don't see the actual incentives to reveal in 2023. Its basically an argument (very much assumption based) that a 2023 reveal will damage Switch sales by only 5% as opposed to 30% for example. But that's still a hypothetical 5% decrease. Why would Nintendo do that? Wheres the benefit, wheres the incentive behind a 2023 reveal?

To beat the leaks? I don't think that's something Nintendo would trade even a single lost Switch 1 sale for. They've been leaking info about games and hardware for years now, and they don't seem to be stressing or suffering over it.

So I ask, what is incentive to reveal in 2023? Sorry if this has already been explained, I haven't yet seen it. Many thanks!
(I'm open to the idea if I could just see a good reason).

If they do a 2023 announcement for a 2024 launch then it's because they think the next console need it. Maybe they plan to release really early 2024 or just need time for advertisement. Not saying it will happens but the sucess of the next console is more important than 1 or 2 years of holiday sales of the switch
 
The PS5 and Xbox Series X were announced in October and December of 2019 respectively.

Nintendo could obviously wait until February 2024 for a November 2024 launch and that would be fine as well.

Q1 would be very hard to do an announcement for as they would have to do a lot of Switch 2 promotion during the holiday season which would probably hurt hardware sales.
that why summer would be the ideal time for the Switch sucessor anouncement
 
If they do a 2023 announcement for a 2024 launch then it's because they think the next console need it. Maybe they plan to release really early 2024 or just need time for advertisement. Not saying it will happens but the sucess of the next console is more important than 1 or 2 years of holiday sales of the switch
Right, Switch 2 shouldn't need 6+ months of marketing, in fact, a long marketing campaign could hurt it, it's best to reveal the console and have it in peoples hands within a handful of months, enough for customers to look ahead and preorder.
 
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