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Rumour Nikkei source: Next-gen Nintendo console development "progressing well" but will not launch until Spring 2024 at the earliest

Tentacle-tropes said:
It would probably look like what BotW stated goal is, “breaking series conventions.” At least for me the writing portions of Metroid need to do better. A whole universe & there is just question marks on even basic things.
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The only risk is hardcore Metroid fans will hate it, but for the series to evolve and grow to be he isn’t dialogue and characters who aren’t samus seem necessary, you can still have isolation but it’s a pretty hard 3-4mil limit if it’s just maze exploration again. not something to launch with unless it breaks conventions.
 
Djehuty said:
The only risk is hardcore Metroid fans will hate it, but for the series to evolve and grow to be he isn’t dialogue and characters who aren’t samus seem necessary, you can still have isolation but it’s a pretty hard 3-4mil limit if it’s just maze exploration again. not something to launch with unless it breaks conventions.
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Only by dint of (some) Nintendo fans being conservative even by the standards of video game fandom.
 
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TheSpaceBetween said:
Whenever it comes, I'm absolutely not looking forward to the bloodbath it's going to be to actually GET one.
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That's going to be fun. I might just wait unless there's a launch title I can't resist. What's funny is that, though I bought a switch to play BOTW, I discovered that there's not a better console to have if you grew up on old school RPGs. And now I have a switch backlog that will keep me busy for quite awhile.
 
TheSpaceBetween said:
Whenever it comes, I'm absolutely not looking forward to the bloodbath it's going to be to actually GET one.
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This is why these updates don't excite me much anymore lol. I will be very happy to own Nintendo's New Thing maybe like a year after it launches when you can just go to Best Buy or whatever and grab one.
 
Djehuty said:
The only risk is hardcore Metroid fans will hate it, but for the series to evolve and grow to be he isn’t dialogue and characters who aren’t samus seem necessary, you can still have isolation but it’s a pretty hard 3-4mil limit if it’s just maze exploration again. not something to launch with unless it breaks conventions.
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Dread was a good baby step but if that’s all that is acceptable for Metroid games then I’m not holding my breath for future games to establish more.
 
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Cubs017 said:
It'll be interesting to see how the launch is handled. I just don't want a situation where it's super limited and extremely difficult to purchase for the first couple of years, especially it has a lot of exclusive, non-cross gen games. It would be nice to see Nintendo have a solid supply before launching.
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I feel like this is asking more than they can reasonably provide. Several times we've seen hardware have more supply than anything previous and still be short. Being a desirable product will do that. But the alternative of being an undesirable product isn't so hot either. If they wait until a point where they can reasonably ship 30 million year one, they've probably waited too long without much return for it.
 
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Sure, sounds good to me. My ps5, xbox and pc is keeping me busy. And the longer Nintendo wait, the better hardware they can launch at an acceptable price.
 
Cubs017 said:
It'll be interesting to see how the launch is handled. I just don't want a situation where it's super limited and extremely difficult to purchase for the first couple of years, especially it has a lot of exclusive, non-cross gen games. It would be nice to see Nintendo have a solid supply before launching.
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It's going to be a bloodbath and plenty of people are going to be frustrated.
 
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Tailzo said:
Sure, sounds good to me. My ps5, xbox and pc is keeping me busy. And the longer Nintendo wait, the better hardware they can launch at an acceptable price.
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It's not like their next SOC is in constant improvement and they just say "stop" at an appropriate time. What they aimed for is what we'll get. The price might be better in 2025, but not better than it would be anyway in 2025 following a 2024 launch.
 
It’s interesting that, uh, a lot of video game hardware seems like it’s now targeting the back half of 2024, potentially all the holiday season. It’ll be wild if new Xboxes, the PS5 Pro, and the Switch 2 all end up releasing within like two weeks of each other.
 
Wonder what the first third party reveal will be for the system.

Guess we’ll hear some more juicy rumors by the end of this year.
 
Galgavias said:
I do think that, if we're still a good 18 months out from a successor, that there must still be 3 or so non-port games Nintendo have up their sleeve to keep things ticking over until then (I'm kinda of the opinion that Metroid Prime 4 will be saved as a Switch 2 launch title now).

A Mario game of some kind to tie into the movie makes a lot of sense, so that'd be one. But what else? Could be a good chance for a franchise that has yet to get its own unique Switch entry, such as DK, Starfox or Kid Icarus. Something Pokemon related would be a good shout (did we ever hear anything more regarding Detective Pikachu 2?). Maybe Platinum could rustle up Astral Chain 2 as I recall they were keen to make that a trilogy.
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Because of a light schedule NOA will be forced to release the next Rhythm Heaven physically 😈
 
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Mekanos said:
If Prime 4 is a launch title there is no way it will be the only launch title. Nobody is buying a Switch 2 for a Metroid game. 3D Mario is a much safer bet.
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What are the odds it launches with Mario Kart? I refuse to belief they're working on BPC and Arms 2, they can and are working on DLC alongside a new one, but I feel despite its popularity it will still be a slight gap (3-9 months)

I'm also unsure how they can make it stand out since it most certainly won't have 96 courses again, I wonder if Double Dash 2 is possible, but that's another conversation
 
I do hope MP4 will be a complete revolution, yeah.

Tho even if mp4 completely "botwfies" metroid prime, i feel like it wont be alone in a possible launch. And that's not a bad thing, even if it was completely changed it would, obviously, still be taking from the hardcore crowd whereas nintendo would need a game that would fill the casual crowd.
 
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When the next Switch releases, Nintendo is going to re-release Mario Kart 8 Deluxe as a complete package for $70 on a 32GB cartridge that includes all the DLC.
 
bellydrum said:
When the next Switch releases, Nintendo is going to re-release Mario Kart 8 Deluxe as a complete package for $70 on a 32GB cartridge that includes all the DLC.
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The only reason it worked this time is cause no one bought a Wii U
Gay Bowser said:
not super high imo

now, a new super smash bros.… >_>
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I just think its too soon, I feel like 5 years after DLC wrapped up for launch is good timing, their holiday 2026 title, not that different from the timing of Smash 4 (which the Wii U flopped... but tbh I doubt it being at launch would have saved it)

I know many who were kind of exhausted of smash dominating directs and such and wanted a hefty time off, and I get the implication Sakurai was not on a new smash as of at least late 2022-ok I guess it was late 21

Then there was the "semi retired" thing but admittedly I do think its possible someone else does it, issue is there's no real known protege like Miyamoto -> Koizumi situation, unless its been very behind the scenes
 
LukasManak22 said:
When the next Switch releases, Nintendo is going to launch a new Mario Kart that is years in development in year 1 of new console.
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I think you're right

Maybe 8D sales are inflating my perception but a mix of normal popularity and the gap for the hardcore makes me think it could sell like 50% of the install base in 2 weeks

Like say it launches when the console has 20m units sold I could see it selling 10m in 2 weeks

Though again it needs to somehow stand out, you can't beat 8D in content amount at least not at launch
 
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Johna X said:
I just think its too soon, I feel like 5 years after DLC wrapped up for launch is good timing, their holiday 2026 title, not that different from the timing of Smash 4 (which the Wii U flopped... but tbh I doubt it being at launch would have saved it)

I know many who were kind of exhausted of smash dominating directs and such and wanted a hefty time off, and I get the implication Sakurai was not on a new smash as of at least late 2022-ok I guess it was late 21

Then there was the "semi retired" thing but admittedly I do think its possible someone else does it, issue is there's no real known protege like Miyamoto -> Koizumi situation, unless its been very behind the scenes
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The biggest tools Nintendo has to get all their core fanbase onto the new platform quickly are Zelda and Smash.

Three years after the end of SSBU DLC is enough time. SSBU released only four years total after SSB Wii U.

SSBU has sold over 30M copies, they’re not going to just drop it. If Sakurai wants to retire, great (he deserves it!), Nintendo’s still going to make the game.
 
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Gay Bowser said:
The biggest tools Nintendo has to get all their core fanbase onto the new platform quickly are Zelda and Smash.

Three years after the end of SSBU DLC is enough time. SSBU released only four years total after SSB Wii U.

SSBU has sold over 30M copies, they’re not going to just drop it. If Sakurai wants to retire, great (he deserves it!), Nintendo’s still going to make the game. When Miyamoto retires we’re still going to get new Mario games.
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I don't think they'll drop it but I think its a bit too soon is all, especially if its not using Ultimate as a base to the extent it used smash 4
But perhaps I'm wrong
 
Thunder84 said:
Announcement early 2024, release in Holiday 2024 alongside 3D Mario. Donkey Kong, Metroid Prime 4, FE4 Remake, and maybe a couple other things carry the 2024 Switch lineup.
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3D Mario seems to be a safe bet as a launch title. If Prime 4 doesn’t come out in 2023, a cross gen also seems likely. On the other hand, 2D Mario, a remake of fire emblem or a new DK game for the extension of the park may come out in my opinion before the next hardware.
 
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Gay Bowser said:
The biggest tools Nintendo has to get all their core fanbase onto the new platform quickly are Zelda and Smash.

Three years after the end of SSBU DLC is enough time. SSBU released only four years total after SSB Wii U.

SSBU has sold over 30M copies, they’re not going to just drop it. If Sakurai wants to retire, great (he deserves it!), Nintendo’s still going to make the game. When Miyamoto retires we’re still going to get new Mario games.
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I agree on the main idea but it's a bit of a tricky comparative since Sakurai has directed every Smash Bros game ever and Miyamito hasn't directed a mainline Super Mario game since Super Mario 64 (he directed Super Mario Run).

Effectively, Miyamoto has been retired from the Super Mario videogame series for years while Sakurai continues to do some heavy lifting with Smash. We don't know how other directors would work on the series and how it would work out (not only quality wise but with development times and scope).
 
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linkwashere said:
I agree on the main idea but it's a bit of a tricky comparative since Sakurai has directed every Smash Bros game ever and Miyamito hasn't directed a mainline Super Mario game since Super Mario 64 (he directed Super Mario Run).

Effectively, Miyamoto has been retired from the Super Mario videogame series for years while Sakurai continues to do some heavy lifting with Smash. We don't know how other directors would work on the series and how it would work out (not only quality wise but with development times and scope).
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I guess I don’t really understand why people are acting like “new game gets made after original director leaves series” is something that has never happened in games before

This is a solved problem. You appoint a new director and make the next game. Would Sakurai’s guiding hand be missed? Maybe! But even if he’s “semi-retired” there’s no reason he can’t be involved in an advisory role (that’s exactly what “semi-retired” sounds like to me, actually).

Games aren’t made by one person, even if that person is Sakurai.

Like, what’s the alternative? Nintendo just never makes another Smash, because Sakurai is done?
 
Gay Bowser said:
I guess I don’t really understand why people are acting like “new game gets made after original director leaves series” is something that has never happened in games before

This is a solved problem. You appoint a new director and make the next game. Would Sakurai’s guiding hand be missed? Maybe! But even if he’s “semi-retired” there’s no reason he can’t be involved in an advisory role (that’s exactly what “semi-retired” sounds like to me, actually).

Games aren’t made by one person, even if that person is Sakurai.

Like, what’s the alternative? Nintendo just never makes another Smash, because Sakurai is done?
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I said I agree on the main point but the comparative between Miyamoto and Sakurai makes no sense. Effectively, Shigeru has been out of the director role for the Super Mario series since 25 years ago and we know how the series works without him. We don't know however what Smash will look like without Sakurai in relation to project scope, development times and so on.

How do you continue Ultimate is not easy even with Sakurai on the director chair let alone a new figure there.
 
Gay Bowser said:
If Sakurai wants to retire, great (he deserves it!), Nintendo’s still going to make the game.
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I think that Sakurai genuinely wants to retire (or do other stuff) but we all know that as long as he's alive he'll feel obligated to direct every game in the series. And my man deserves some rest. That's why we shouldn't make a new Smash game for the next 40 to 50 years.
 
Party Sklar said:
I think that Sakurai genuinely wants to retire (or do other stuff) but we all know that as long as he's alive he'll feel obligated to direct every game in the series. And my man deserves some rest. That's why we shouldn't make a new Smash game for the next 40 to 50 years.
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Considering the type of man he is, retirement will literally be him working on something else. He is an avowed workaholic. At this point Smash isn’t an obligation but more of an opportunity to play video games from many different franchises while being on the job.
 
I don’t see Switch 2 launching with Smash unless it’s been in development literally since DLC wrapped for Ultimate. Which is possible given that’s literally when Ultimate started but I see it more as a 2025/2026 title if Switch 2 is next year. I’m still guessing it will launch with 3D Mario.
 
I sure am curious what this new console will be. I hope its a upgraded Switch with the added benefit of being able to stream a different view to mobile phones like how the WiiU streamed a view to the tablet. Not sure if that is possible but it sure would make the Switch a lot more versatile.
 
I'm starting to accept that this is actually the case and it won't be in this fy. I honestly think this isn't ideal for Nintendo but so be it.

I don't mind it that much personally if they have more good games for the second half. I really need a big title other than Pokemon/TotK dlc. Time for a new Mario or DK or both (one game featuring both like the movie).
So basically give me a new major platformer (Mario/DK), more Metroid remasters (at least Echoes), more NSO (Zero Mission please, also Banjo Tooie & DK64), and a few more games and dlc and I'll be pretty occupied. Totk alone will keep me for several months probably.
 
Mekanos said:
I don’t see Switch 2 launching with Smash unless it’s been in development literally since DLC wrapped for Ultimate. Which is possible given that’s literally when Ultimate started but I see it more as a 2025/2026 title if Switch 2 is next year. I’m still guessing it will launch with 3D Mario.
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It could launch with both within the launch window – a single-player game and a multiplayer-focused game, an E-rated game and a T-rated game. That’s pretty much exactly what the Switch did – launch with Zelda and then follow it up with Mario Kart the following month.
 
Really hoping it's mid next year and not the end, various parts of my launch Switch haven't been fairing well recently. I don't want to have to keep using it for a year and a half
 
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k samedi said:
I sure am curious what this new console will be. I hope its an upgraded Switch with the added benefit of being able to stream a different view to mobile phones like how the WiiU streamed a view to the tablet. Not sure if that is possible but it sure would make the Switch a lot more versatile.
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Switch but you can swivel the screen into a vertical orientation (while keeping the joy-cons in their usual orientation) for new novel forms of play, and also DS/3DS games

This won’t happen but it somehow feels so Nintendo
 
Gay Bowser said:
Switch but you can swivel the screen into a vertical orientation (while keeping the joy-cons in their usual orientation) for new novel forms of play, and also DS/3DS games

This won’t happen but it somehow feels so Nintendo
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Nintendo entering an era where they mainly focus on vertical shooters is the most based prediction I've seen on Fami.
 
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