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Sales Data Updated sales numbers for Switch titles: Fire Emblem Engage (1.61M), Kirby's RtDL DX (1.46M), Metroid Prime Remastered (1.09M), and more

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Yamanoi said:
Metroid Prime Remastered should've been $70 not $40.

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MisterSpo said:
One major positive is that unlike many publishers, these numbers are enough for Nintendo to stay interested and invested
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Yeah, 1M should honestly be enough for Nintendo to continue making new entries for these IPs. Nintendo knows that the 1M for each of those games is a different population from the 10s of millions that buy Switch Sports and Mario Kart.

Bonejack said:
That's more my personal feelings for FE, Engage's shortcomings and the future from me than a comment on the sales
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I believe Three Houses and Engage were being developed somewhat in tandem, so the next FE will have the benefit of analyzing what its predecessors did well.

Ozeiyo said:
Switch Sports, btw, which is as barebones a release as you can get, is almost at 10 million. It's so annoying that we won't get more sports or a better experience, in general. What a bummer. It could've been so good.
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There’s something to be said about how crunchy and satisfying the motion controls are for this game. It sure is barebones, but what it does have it does really well. Enough for casuals to shell out sixty bucks for it, as my parents and uncles and aunts can attest to.
 
meatbag said:
There’s something to be said about how crunchy and satisfying the motion controls are for this game. It sure is barebones, but what it does have it does really well. Enough for casuals to shell out sixty bucks for it, as my parents and uncles and aunts can attest to.
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Don't get me wrong. It's really fun. I took my switch with me on my Easter holidays and played Tennis and bowling with friends and it was so an amazing time. I just wish it was the definitive way to play "wii sports".
 
Luke88 said:
Wild that Metroid Prime Remastered only sold 1M, it felt like a really big launch. I guess the shadowdrop aproach doesn't pay off all that much.
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It’s a remaster of a niche franchise. People think there’s so much positivity and noise on the internet that somehow translates to regular people offline.
 
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For those worried about franchises being put on ice, remember that many of these games have either a developer or a team that wants to make those games. FE is nowhere near its disastrous DS sales and I'm pretty sure Monolith Soft has a blank check thanks to them also helping with Zelda. Also, I believe they will be doing something new with Xenoblade anyways given what happens in Future Connected. Sakamoto and Tanabae will keep Metroid alive through sheer willpower if needed.
 
Not much selling like people might expect. It’s towards the end of the system. Sales are slowing down all around. That’s just how it is.

Nintendo gotta be careful because you don’t want momentum dying and you’re not releasing a system until possibly holiday 2023. They have nothing coming H2 2024. All that little dlc and remasters rumored don’t mean anything. That’s not selling anything.
 
Switch far and away had Nintendo's best FY6 for software and their forecast of 180 million for FY7 would be around three times higher than Nintendo's current best FY7 of 60.82 million by DS.

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Dark Cloud said:
Not much selling like people might expect. It’s towards the end of the system. Sales are slowing down all around. That’s just how it is.

Nintendo gotta be careful because you don’t want momentum dying and you’re not releasing a system until possibly holiday 2024. They have nothing coming H2 2024. All that little dlc and remasters rumored don’t mean anything. That’s not selling anything.
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Releasing the biggest game of the last 5 years in a few days means Nintendo's momentum is slowing down right
 
I really don’t think Nintendo has to worry about brand momentum, between the Mario Movie and Tears of the Kingdom. And they almost certainly have some stuff in store for us.
 
Catalyst said:
I’m honestly glad we’re in a situation where selling 1 million and change in a couple months is considered disappointing. Compared to WiiU/3DS era where plenty of games just straight up bombed.
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Yup this is night and day lol. Doesn't bother me at all.
 
As for system sales and evergreen legs, I think it's finally time for a price cut on both hardware and software via a "Selects" line. Together these might fuel sales after 2023 ends.
 
Ozeiyo said:
Don't get me wrong. It's really fun. I took my switch with me on my Easter holidays and played Tennis and bowling with friends and it was so an amazing time. I just wish it was the definitive way to play "wii sports".
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Game badly needs a Resort-type expansion that also adds more single player content 🥲
 
efyu_lemonardo said:
As for system sales and evergreen legs, I think it's finally time for a price cut on both hardware and software via a "Selects" line. Together these might fuel sales after 2023 ends.
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to be fair anecdotally the movie seems to have been helping mario games on the eshop
 
Metroid: What y'all expecting lol. The fact the game reach over a million copies is already pretty good for the series. It's very obvious the series was not a big seller to begin with (and look at that Japan/oversea difference)

Fire Emblem: Many people express disappointment in the direction Engage tooks. But it's precisely because it was developed alongside Three Houses that they went with that direction for Engage. You don't want to make literally the same game twice at the same time. Same thing happened with Kirby Triple Deluxe/Planet Robobot.
 
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Luminoth9090 said:
Switch far and away had Nintendo's best FY6 for software and their forecast of 180 million for FY7 would be around three times higher than Nintendo's current best FY7 of 60.82 million by DS.

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Dark Cloud said:
Oh wow remember Nintendo released Skyward Sword at the end of the Wii’s life. “Momentum”
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Looking at the data Luminoth posted above and the software market for Switch is far healthier than Wii was when Skyward Sword released. Switch is in the decline phase, sure, and Nintendo can't afford to sit around and not do anything, but the situation isn't comparable to Wii.
 
I think Metroid Prime's result is fine considering the circumstances (shadow dropped, delayed physical launch, under stocked physical launch). If anything, if you think sales are lower then expected for the Prime Remaster then it's an inditement on how dumb the marketing plan was for the game.
 
BassForever said:
I think Metroid Prime's result is fine considering the circumstances (shadow dropped, delayed physical launch, under stocked physical launch). If anything, if you think sales are lower then expected for the Prime Remaster then it's an inditement on how dumb the marketing plan was for the game.
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I think it's time to realize that the audience for Metroid is just not that large.

3 million appears to be the upper limit, unless they make significant changes to the formula like HAL has made with Kirby.
 
First off: yeah i guess i was wrong you really need to market metroid.

Second, this is a product of circumstances tho dont get me wrong lol. Dread debuted higher than any xenoblade, fire emblem, or pikmin could ever hope to achieve, if nintendo marketed mpr in the same way i could see it being a success (on the same scale)

And yeah, it is NOT a measurement to how well MP4 will do lol.

Some folks here are acting like metroid is advance wars lmao
 
Ahmed said:
Sad to see no visible growth for the Fire Emblem and Xenoblade series. Perhaps it's because of the Switch age, but many other games are doing well enough.

I don't get how people are surprised at Metroid Prime numbers. It's a series that was never a seller, so what do you expect with a remaster that doesn't add anything and gets shadowdropped with barely any marketing? Even the lower price won't help it much. I think it's pretty impressive to have sold a million already in just a month or 2.

Splatoon is another disappointment, but that's my general experience with this entry. It feels like a missing opportunity in many ways. I'm already thinking about how Splatoon 4 should be (or rather what I want it to be).
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They are surprised because many keep overshooting how much the Switch drive software sales. You can look at most sales predictions thread and you'll see some crazy expectations based on nothing

However I think it's fair to say Nintendo tried something new with MP and failed

Sidenote: Splatoon 3 was an obvious mistep just from the trailers and showcases prior to the games release
 
Dark Cloud said:
It’s a remaster of a niche franchise. People think there’s so much positivity and noise on the internet that somehow translates to regular people offline.
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Not even, if you look online, the sheer difference between dread's waves vs mpr's waves is immense. I thought maybe it wasnt a good way of measurement overall, but it is.
 
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Mr Doggo said:
First off: yeah i guess i was wrong you really need to market metroid.

Second, this is a product of circumstances tho dont get me wrong lol. Dread debuted higher than any xenoblade, fire emblem, or pikmin could ever hope to achieve, if nintendo marketed mpr in the same way i could see it being a success (on the same scale)

And yeah, it is NOT a measurement to how well MP4 will do lol.

Some folks here are acting like metroid is advance wars lmao
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True, Metroid Prime Remastered was released on Switch while people are still buying software for it.
 
efyu_lemonardo said:
I think it's time to realize that the audience for Metroid is just not that large.

3 million appears to be the upper limit, unless they make significant changes to the formula like HAL has made with Kirby.
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I think you misunderstood my post. 1 million is what I expected for a remaster of a game that's been on every Nintendo console since the GC in a smaller franchise. I do think the game could have sold a bit more (maybe closer to 1.5 mill) if it had a normal marketing cycle, release, and had enough physical stock to meet demand at launch.
 
Mr Doggo said:
Some folks here are acting like metroid is advance wars lmao
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People tend to exaggerate for effect. Metroid is like the least popular kid at the popular kid table, which is still pretty good. F-Zero and Star Fox have detention. Punch-Out!! and Kid Icarus must've been expelled from the school.
 
Like others said, the shadowdrop announcement for the Prime 1 remaster did it no favors. Would have done better if they had revealed it at the Game Awards or prior and generated some hype. Revealing it in the middle of a Direct headlines segment and then dumping it on the eShop did not make it seem like a big deal at all.

Just really bad marketing.
 
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MrBones said:
Like others said, the shadowdrop announcement for the Prime 1 remaster did it no favors. Would have done better if they had revealed it at the Game Awards and generated some hype.
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it could have also generated some controversy though. There could have been months arguing about "why is Nintendo releasing it standalone when Prime Trilogy is 20". Maybe they wanted to avoid that?
 
Aurc said:
People tend to exaggerate for effect. Metroid is like the least popular kid at the popular kid table, which is still pretty good. F-Zero and Star Fox have detention. Punch-Out!! and Kid Icarus must've been expelled from the school.
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Also every time Metroid's commercial viability is discussed a lot of claims are thrown out that never seem to be backed up by its actual performance.

I like the Metroid series but after more than 35 years I think it's safe to say it has a ceiling. That's okay! We should be happy Nintendo will keep funding niche series instead of shuttering them, which a lot of other publishers would do frankly.
 
Mekanos said:
Also every time Metroid's commercial viability is discussed a lot of claims are thrown out that never seem to be backed up by its actual performance.

I like the Metroid series but after more than 35 years I think it's safe to say it has a ceiling. That's okay! We should be happy Nintendo will keep funding niche series instead of shuttering them, which a lot of other publishers would do frankly.
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Despite a lot of fans's unhingedness, for the time period it is not coming out of blue considering, for example, dread's performance. But we will see.

Im sure it can be found by some user here, but when mpr said i said that nintendo would be fine with whatever sales it did, because it seemed (and it still seems like) that the project was solely something of an exercise for retro studios staff.

The 40 dollars price tag, dropping it without marketing, etc.
 
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Lugia667 said:
it could have also generated some controversy though. There could have been months arguing about "why is Nintendo releasing it standalone when Prime Trilogy is 20". Maybe they wanted to avoid that?
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I doubt it, any steam that had to be a controversy was quelled once people saw how substantial of a graphical overhaul it was. That and the $40 pricetag.

Nintendo just flew in the face of a conventional marketing strategy for....reasons? I don't get it, especially for how long the game was supposedly done and sat on.
 
Mekanos said:
Also every time Metroid's commercial viability is discussed a lot of claims are thrown out that never seem to be backed up by its actual performance.

I like the Metroid series but after more than 35 years I think it's safe to say it has a ceiling. That's okay! We should be happy Nintendo will keep funding niche series instead of shuttering them, which a lot of other publishers would do frankly.
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Exactly! Dread was great, so was Prime Remastered, and we have a new game in development. As long as the games sell and review well enough for Nintendo to consider Metroid worth the effort, I'm happy. It could be a lot worse. Imagine badly wanting Ice Climber 2. Extreme example, I know, but that'd be a dire position to be in.
 
The only way I see Metroid breaking that 3 million barrier is if we see Prime 4 being a Switch 2 launch window game, which I still think is a solid bet (they'd also release on the Switch 1 as a cross gen game before people make that counterpoint).

The shadowdrop was an odd choice because I felt that a reveal at the Game Awards followed by a launch 2/3 months of hype building later would have done the game wonders, but maybe they felt Bayonetta Origins needed more exposure.
 
Yeah, the shadowdrop of Metroid Prime Remastered was a bad idea. Broader online discourse could've persuaded some newcomers to get the game. Only fans familiar with the game were excited to play it...on the same day...
 
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I'm shocked at Metroid Prime not doing 2 million. Demand seemed high, there was a restock (when I got my copy), maybe some sales were lost when it was hard to buy the gamecard at launch but probably not that many.

Switch Sports was a solid title for me. I played it almost every day for a while, played it with friends and family, it was very cheap, and they added golf a few months down the line. Online was very reliable as well (for me anyway, I'm sure experiences vary). Barebones seems harsh too, I thought the costumes and titles added a good incentive to keep playing.
 
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Aurc said:
People tend to exaggerate for effect. Metroid is like the least popular kid at the popular kid table, which is still pretty good. F-Zero and Star Fox have detention. Punch-Out!! and Kid Icarus must've been expelled from the school.
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I think it's fair to expect 2 mil for MP remastered( not 4 or 5 mil like some delusional fans predicted)

Dread did 3 mil . Remasters sells well in this day and age. and Metroid Prime is in a way more popular genre compared to a 2D game

I would argue these numbers are worrying ahead of MP4 release. but I guess Metroid needs marketing to sell decent numbers . It needs to be treated as a big release in order to have a chance
 
Johna X said:
The "Xeno 2 controversial" talk feels very bubble to be honest, I doubt more then a quarter of people who bought that game saw the tweets about the over sexualized designs
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Agreed. People like sexualized anime designs, just look at how much better FE has sold in recent years. You only appeal to audiences who dislike overt anime designs by going in the opposite direction (like FF16), which these franchises are far away from anyway.

Xenoblade 3 (and Engage) are both suffering from franchise fatigue and not looking as engaging as previous entries: Xenoblade 3 looked like more of the same as 2 (and 1, which got remastered in-between + DLC for both games). And Engage looked worse than 3H.
 
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It's almost as if the ceiling/floor of the sales of a game should never be attributed to one aspect - or that of any of its successors/predecessors.

Bloody XB2 discourse. I hope it rots.
 
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Aurc said:
Exactly! Dread was great, so was Prime Remastered, and we have a new game in development. As long as the games sell and review well enough for Nintendo to consider Metroid worth the effort, I'm happy. It could be a lot worse. Imagine badly wanting Ice Climber 2. Extreme example, I know, but that'd be a dire position to be in.
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Its interesting. I think that not everything needs to sell amazingly well when there’s absolutely value in offering variety on a platform, and Nintendo doesn’t offer anything else like Metroid, plus it’s not like the Switch is drowning in first person shooter/adventures. Especially when Nintendo is doing really well, only has a single platform and can afford to keep its options open on as many series as possible. Fire Emblem and Xenoblade and Metroid are at that kinda prestige level where the press and dedicated customer base go crazy over covering them even if they sell a fraction of what Ring Fit Adventure does. Trying out development with third parties like Mercury Steam, Way Forward, Koei Tecmo, Platinum etc has value too.

I don’t know, I think what I see is Nintendo aiming for sustainability with constantly refreshing its IP through either new ideas or partnerships over time, or bringing older IP back around again to surprise people, or not requiring series to break through the usual caps on their genres (Metroid, Xenoblade, Fire Emblem) to get new entries when they have fairly consistent fan bases. It all seems pretty healthy to me rather than expecting phenomenal sales or the IP gets canned.
 
MrBones said:
Agreed. People like sexualized anime designs, just look at how much better FE has sold in recent years. You only appeal to audiences who dislike overt anime designs by going in the opposite direction (like FF16), which those franchises are far away from anyway.

Xenoblade 3 (and Engage) are both suffering from franchise fatigue and not looking as engaging as previous entries.
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franchise fatigue.....when there was a nearly 5 year gap between entries?
 
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