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Rumour Nintendo might not have a major Switch title after Zelda as they prepare to move on to new hardware

RedSpring said:
I don't believe this. I expect backward compatibility and a long cross gen period like the other consoles. No way they just hard stop support for the original switch.
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Yeah no way Nintendo allows switch to hit a brick wall when it’s so close to beating ps2 for the greatest selling console of all time 😎
 
RochHoch said:
There's soooooo much DLC coming next year, I wonder if Nintendo planned it to help pad the gap between Zelda and the new console while OG Switch releases start to taper off.

Just look at this:

-Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Expansion Pass
-Mario Rabbids Sparks of Hope Rayman Expansion
-Splatoon 3 single-player expansion + regular updates
-Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Story Expansion
-Fire Emblem Engage Season Pass
-Pokemon Scarlet and Violet DLC (unannounced for now, but almost certainly happening considering how they handled SWSH)

That's so much.
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I don't think DLC is specifically planned in regards to the hardware release cycle, but rather in how a post-handheld / two console Nintendo can manage to fill a release calendar year after year. All of the games listed with the exception of MK8 were pretty much guaranteed to get DLC.
 
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RochHoch said:
There's soooooo much DLC coming next year, I wonder if Nintendo planned it to help pad the gap between Zelda and the new console while OG Switch releases start to taper off.

Just look at this:

-Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Expansion Pass
-Mario Rabbids Sparks of Hope Rayman Expansion
-Splatoon 3 single-player expansion + regular updates
-Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Story Expansion
-Fire Emblem Engage Season Pass
-Pokemon Scarlet and Violet DLC (unannounced for now, but almost certainly happening considering how they handled SWSH)

That's so much.
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We should get a very good look in the next Direct on how will this year play out, and if not Nintendo's history shows that they have no problem revealing their Holiday title as late as E3 time.
 
Magic-Man said:
Why are we acting like Nintendo insiders don't get stuff wrong sometimes? Literally every major insider has a rumor that didn't come true, whether that be Nate or Emily or King Zell or Jeff Grubb.
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I mean, insiders can be wrong but some people find themselves more wrong times than others. If you're going to make a thread because someone in the press says they "Haven't heard" or "Isn't convinced" that there are no big Nintendo games beyond Zelda, then it's worth taking a look at other things they have heard in the past. Based on his previous record, him not hearing about stuff doesn't mean anything. It could mean that Nintendo doesn't have anything big beyond Zelda but it could also just mean no one feels like telling him shit.
 
Truno said:
Nintendo hurry up and press the "Gamecube Remaster/Remakes" button!

Metroid Prime, F-Zero GX, Paper Mario TTYD HD 😭
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Tbh these are exactly the types of games I would expect to be cross-gen and spread out over a couple of years after new hardware is on the market as an easy, cost-effective way of selling software to the massive Switch user base.
 
Magic-Man said:
Why are we acting like Nintendo insiders don't get stuff wrong sometimes? Literally every major insider has a rumor that didn't come true, whether that be Nate or Emily or King Zell or Jeff Grubb.
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Yeah but don't you know? The rumor that's wrong about a series you deeply care for = this insider sucks!

At least that's what I think is how most burned by the Mother 3 rumor in the Wii U era feel

More on topic - I could see it, especially with there being a focus on more DLC for games like MK8D, Splatoon 3 expansion, Xenoblade 3 expansion #3 and the Torna equivalent game etc.

Then again, they could easily announce something Mario or DK and then suddenly 2023 is looking better.
 
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Well no big-ish titles isn’t that strange right? Switch is heading to 120 million sold, saturation is kicking in and you can coast on its existing library and smaller releases for a good year.

It does feel like that after Tears of the Kingdom we will be heading towards more rumors about the next system.
 
balgajo said:
Hmmm....so maybe we are on the timeline where Totk was made by the minority of Zelda team and that's why it took so long. Since 2017 the majority is working on a brand new Zelda built from the ground up to the next console.
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This is wishful thinking at best.
 
I don't think Nintendo will miss the opportunity to have at least one 5 to 10 million selling title next autumn/winter, so I expect a game that can at least be considered commercially significant 5 or 6 months after Zelda. A Prime remaster won't cut it, and neither would Pikmin 4 (though I'd be chuffed to have both).

Would also be a good launch window for new hardware.
 
RochHoch said:
There's soooooo much DLC coming next year, I wonder if Nintendo planned it to help pad the gap between Zelda and the new console while OG Switch releases start to taper off.

Just look at this:

-Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Expansion Pass
-Mario Rabbids Sparks of Hope Rayman Expansion
-Splatoon 3 single-player expansion + regular updates
-Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Story Expansion
-Fire Emblem Engage Season Pass
-Pokemon Scarlet and Violet DLC (unannounced for now, but almost certainly happening considering how they handled SWSH)

That's so much.
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How many of these do I have to sacrifice to get a Smash Bros Fighter Pass 3?
 
balgajo said:
Hmmm....so maybe we are on the timeline where Totk was made by the minority of Zelda team and that's why it took so long. Since 2017 the majority is working on a brand new Zelda built from the ground up to the next console.
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no other side of the team went working on a 3D Zelda game for mobile
 
I'm sorry y'all but the only people I kinda trust when it comes to Nintendo games are Nate and Emilie and even them can have dated sources.
Each year people try to predict Nintendo's moves and each year they fail. I won't consider Andy Robinson and Christopher Ding as trustworthy when it comes to Nintendo.
 
Well, let's roll out some facts. in the timespan between November 2021 and May 2023 Nintendo will had released.

-3 Main line Pokèmon games
-A brand new Splatoon
-A new 3D Zelda

over a, roughly, 18 months 5 juggernaut titles capable of 15/20+ millions copies at the bare minimun, and I'm of course not taking in consideration games like Kirby, FE and Metroid, games that seats in the 3/6 millions LTD area.

It's an impressive achievement, so I think it's quite natural to have a 8/10 months period of quiet and minor releases. But this won't mean a thin release schedule. We already know a lot about the first H1, we know that Pikmin 4 will be out during 2023 barring any major delay, and games like Fe Geneaolgy of the Holy war, MP1Remake and a new DK are heavily rumored. I think 2023 will be a very good year quality wise.
 
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I'm at the point now where I don't believe anything coming out of insiders/journalists/influencers mouths regarding anything relating to Nintendo. They've shown their butts too many times now.

TLDR: Huge doubt.
 
MisterSpo said:
Would also be a good launch window for new hardware.
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Thinking about it more it sounds great. Remember that ToTK was slated as a Holiday 2022 title which also means that 3D Mario game was never slated for release that year or even close to the new one. What if the plan the whole time was successor in Holidays 2023 that launches alongside the new 3D Mario? Would make the most sense to me.
 
RochHoch said:
There's soooooo much DLC coming next year, I wonder if Nintendo planned it to help pad the gap between Zelda and the new console while OG Switch releases start to taper off.

Just look at this:

-Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Expansion Pass
-Mario Rabbids Sparks of Hope Rayman Expansion
-Splatoon 3 single-player expansion + regular updates
-Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Story Expansion
-Fire Emblem Engage Season Pass
-Pokemon Scarlet and Violet DLC (unannounced for now, but almost certainly happening considering how they handled SWSH)

That's so much.
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Other than Mario Kart 8, all of these were expected to have DLCs regardless of when they released. Xenoblade 2 had an expansion pass. So did Pokemon Sword/Shield. So did Fire Emblem Three Houses. So did Mario + Rabbids. Splatoon 3 had a single player expansion and regular updates. I don't think Nintendo planned for all these DLCs just to fill out 2023 because they were always going to have those DLCs regardless.
 
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This would make sense with all the remasters they are rumored to be working on. Odd that Mario has been MIA for so long, but they could be holding it for launch of the next Switch.

You would think they would want a Mario game to be released with the movie, but I guess it could just be a smaller Mario title like a remake.
 
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LukasManak22 said:
Thinking about it more it sounds great. Remember that ToTK was slated as a Holiday 2022 title which also means that 3D Mario game was never slated for release that year or even close to the new one. What if the plan the whole time was successor in Holidays 2023 that launches alongside the new 3D Mario? Would make the most sense to me.
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I think that's still plausible right now. It's the most logical launch title (alongside 2D Mario) because we haven't seen a brand new title for a few years and the development group aren't busy on anything else, and it has the commercial and critical appeal to act as a system seller. With Zelda in May and Kart set for another 12 months of DLC, we're really looking at Super Mario to launch new hardware.
 
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LukasManak22 said:
Thinking about it more it sounds great. Remember that ToTK was slated as a Holiday 2022 title which also means that 3D Mario game was never slated for release that year or even close to the new one. What if the plan the whole time was successor in Holidays 2023 that launches alongside the new 3D Mario? Would make the most sense to me.
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It would make the most sense to literally redo the Switch launch. Launch the successor with TotK in H1 2023 and then a new Mario in fall 2023. Only Nintendo could pass up such a perfect opportunity.
 
Well, if nintendo is moving to hardware in late 2023 or early 2024, I could definitely see smaller releases until Switch 2 launches. I find it unlikely that anything near ToTK size releases on Switch in 2023 or after.

It doesn't mean we can't get Pikmin or other small titles.

Either way, nintendo will have plenty of questions to answer at April Financial briefing. The questions won't all be about ToTK. Regardless of what all these journalist and insiders say. Questions will have to be answered (at least to some extent) and IF there is a June 2023 Direct, it will also provide a ton of insight going forward.

Despite Nintendo's best efforts, it will be all anyone is asking about as soon as ToTK launches.
 
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HockeyBird said:
Andy Robinson. Now where have I heard that name before?

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Truly the person with the best Nintendo sources
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He doesnt consider SKyward sword to be a good game so that tells me all i need about credibility humph
 
TBH, this feels like a reheated tweet from Chris Dring's earlier tweets piggybacking of off the Digital Foundry news.

With Nintendo, we've had insiders claiming that Starfox GP was imminent, that a Metroid Prime remaster would definitely materialise in 2021 and that we would have WW and TP remasters by now. All of those might still come out, but at the end of the day we only have Nintendo to confirm that. I have no doubt that every insider has a good source at some level. But then again, wires get crossed. Plans change and some titles just get up and cancelled. It happens

Up until we've seen the first Nintendo Direct of 2023, let's take this news with the pinch of salt it deserves to be taken with. Especially after years of Switch Pro rumours that came to a grinding halt a few days ago and that's now morphing into "Next-Gen" talk due to extreme levels of copium.
 
All I’m getting is that those two fine folks have “not heard anything”, which honestly just means to me that Nintendo is successfully keeping their plans under wraps. Possibly via targeted sabotage at leakers carried out by Nintendo ninjas.
 
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I mean, even though reputable insiders have been wrong before.
Also, no major title doesn't mean any.

We have Pikmin 4 coming next year, and surely a Nintendo Direct which will detail the first half of the year.

2023 already looks super strong for me just for:
Fire Emblem Engage
Zelda Tears of The Kingdom
Pikmin 4
Xenoblade 3 dlc/new story content (only counting this because it has potential to be Torna levels of standalone)
Metroid Prime (Remake or 4?)
Whatever the holiday game will be

And we still don't know what else will come, let alone announced in a Direct, not even counting new dlc. Could also get a handful of great "smaller" Nintendo titles that haven't had sequels/releases in a while.
 
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Keep in mind what we knew going into each year (not counting rumors) of the Switch era.

2017
-Breath of the Wild

2018
-Bayonetta 1 & 2
-Fire Emblem: Three Houses (delayed to 2019)
-Yoshi's Crafted World (delayed to 2018)

2019
-Fire Emblem: Three Houses
-Yoshi's Crafted World
-Luigi's Mansion 3
-Animal Crossing: New Horizons (delayed to 2020)

2020
-Animal Crossing New Horizons
-New Pokemon Snap (wasn't dated for 2020 at the start of the year)
-Xenoblade Chronicles: DE

2021
-Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury

2022
-Pokemon Arceus: Legends
-Bayonetta 3 (announced in 2017 lol)
-Splatoon 3
-The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (delayed to 2023)

2023
-Fire Emblem: Engage
-Kirby's Return to Dreamland
-Bayonetta Origins
-The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
-Pikmin 4

And every time, Nintendo announces more titles throughout the year.
 
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This is probably gonna end up being a case of different people having different views of the word major. If your view of major is 5-10+ million then sure, Zelda TotK could very well be the Switch's last "major" game. If the question is games that can sell 1-5 million though then Nintendo will probably have a few more between TotK and Switch 2. IIRC Pikmin 3 sold over a million copies on the freakin WiiU, so I'd bet money that Pikmin 4 is gonna cruise to a cool 1-2 million units sold as well.

Also for people on sites like this, some of the most exciting announcements Nintendo could make wouldn't be classified as "major announcements". Case in point here is a hypothetical February 2023 Direct for Switch games launching second half 2023 that would cause massive nerdgasm and not be a blip on the "major game" radar

New F-Zero
Golden Sun 4
Sin & Punishment 3
New Rhythm Heaven
New Star Fox
Zelda TP/WW HD
Metroid Prime Remake
Metroid Prime 4
New Excitebike/truck/bot
New Custom Robo

All of that said, I think we could see one last Mario Party on Switch, a Superstars 2 that uses the GC Mario Party games as the base. That could easily sell 10+ million copies, not be a "major" game for people on sites like this, but be major for sales junkies.
 
This could probably be true, still expecting Switch 2 to be officially revealed by the end of 2023 and on market starting early 2024

KEEP IN MIND that this probably means no Nintendo directly developed games, so we can get of course games from Retro Studios, Intelligent System and so on
 
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I have a hard time believing that there's not another Mario platformer, 2D or 3D, coming out before the newest hardware unless the newest hardware is revealed late-spring/summer 2023 for a fall 2023 release.
 
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Putting aside the fact that everyone would love a year stacked full of releases, honestly, would that even be that bad?

Assuming major just means titles that sell like 8 million +, a year with Pikmin 4, Fire Emblem Engage, Tears of the Kingdom and a bunch of DLC is far from a terrible gap year. Switch has the catalogue to continue selling a decent amount whilst also preparing for the next hardware.
 
Josh5890 said:
Keep in mind what we knew going into each year (not counting rumors) of the Switch era.

2017
-Breath of the Wild

2018
-Bayonetta 1 & 2
-Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3
-Fire Emblem: Three Houses (delayed to 2019)
-Yoshi's Crafted World (delayed to 2018)

2019
-Fire Emblem: Three Houses
-Yoshi's Crafted World
-Luigi's Mansion 3
-Animal Crossing: New Horizons (delayed to 2020)

2020
-Animal Crossing New Horizons
-New Pokemon Snap (wasn't dated for 2020 at the start of the year)
-Xenoblade Chronicles: DE

2021
-Super Mario 3D World

2022
-Pokemon Arceus: Legends
-Bayonetta 3 (announced in 2017 lol)
-The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (delayed to 2023)

2023
-Fire Emblem: Engage
-Kirby's Return to Dreamland
-The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
-Pikmin 4

And every time, Nintendo announces more titles throughout the year.
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  • Bayonetta Origins in the 2023 camp
  • Splatoon 3 in the 2022 camp
 
If that means "no games that will surely sell more than 10 million" then yes that's plausible. I lean towards there being at least 1 title that could sell that much left, whether it's 2D Mario or a Holiday 2024 Pokemon game, but it's hard to guess.
 
Major Switch Title, meet General Direct.
 
Dardan Sandiego said:
This is wishful thinking at best.
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There is too much evidence. A lot of stars aligned for this to happen.
LukasManak22 said:
no other side of the team went working on a 3D Zelda game for mobile
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That would be an even better timeline. I would love to receive a notification with the option to pay real money to repair my broken weapon. Everyday being notified about the production of my rushroom farm and have a option to buy a production multiplier would be neat. Lots of recipes!
 
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Damn feels like we’re popping off the end of the year with news pointing to the Switch 2 launching 2024. Wouldn’t be surprised if we get a major report in January confirming it.
 
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Magic-Man said:
You also forgot about Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope, Bravely Default 2, and Monster Hunter Rise * runs away *
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I was only referring to first party games, tbf. I know that leaves other published off stuff like Octopath and Triangle, but I've planted my flag and I'm sticking with it.
 
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While this is plausible I think this is kind of a pointless conversation to have at this point since no one really knows anything. We rarely know much about a coming year until the February Direct happens, other than maybe one big game or so like Zelda.

We can revisit this topic once the Direct happens and we have a much better roadmap for 2023. If the Direct is very slim other than Zelda, or if there's no Direct at all (or it's a mini or something) then we can raise the red flags. Even then, like someone said, we're having E3 this year again, and Nintendo has shown they don't mind waiting until E3 to show off holiday games before, too.
 
TBH all this says to me is that Nintendo has maybe tightened up the ship a little re:leaks. Not sweating it.
 
Nintendo might start talking about new hardware by 2024, seven years after the Switch launched? What a bold prediction

There are still the rumors for EPD Donkey Kong and the Metroid Prime remake (rumors to be sure, but then so is this), and literally Metroid Prime 4 already announced. Plus no one usually knows about most of the biggest Nintendo titles prior to reveal anyway. Sounds like a bunch of baseless speculation

The schedule lines up for a holiday 2023 release at the earliest imo. Which, you don't need to be an "insider" to make that kind of guess...
 
I mean it's plausible. Nintendo is too unpredictable, so it's very hard to say for sure what is coming next.

I personally am still expecting something 3D Mario related, it's been over 5 years since Odyssey. Otherwise, I don't know if there are many other big first party games coming soonish.

I doubt we'll get a new game in these series:
  • Zelda
  • Xenoblade
  • Fire Emblem
  • Mario Kart (DLC is still ongoing and MK8 is for eternity)
  • Smash
  • Splatoon
  • Mario Party
  • Luigi's Mansion (I don't think Next Level will have anything coming soon. Mario Strikers released soon after LM3, but that didn't have much content)
  • Mario Sports (I should say anything from Camelot, though I think they are likely a few years into developing their next game, just not something coming in the next 12-18 months)


I still believe Fire Emblem Genealogy of the Holy War remake is still on the table. There is also still Pikmin, but that's not really a big IP.
There is always a new Pokémon game coming out, but for 2023 I think (and really hope) all they'll do is DLC for SV.
And the further along we go without a hint of Metroid Prime 4, the more I believe they'll just have it be a cross-gen game. I don't know why, but I'd be surprised if it comes out by the end of 2023.

I also don't get why people get so offended and almost hostile whenever anyone says they doubt we'll get many big releases soon. This time last year lots of people were so sure this year would be 2017 part 2, but it's not. Neither will be 2023.
Lots of stuff got delayed or shuffled around. Apparently even a new Switch hardware. Again, everything is possible, nothing is likely.
 
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