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News Nintendo Direct Mini: Partner Showcase announced for June 28th

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Tentacle-tropes said:
Define most. As it currently stands the Steam Deck can’t fill that niche considering it is niche itself. I would say a good majority of Switch owners are fine with playing games that are “inferior”, essentially, to other counterparts. If they weren’t then we would’ve seeing the type of sales for 3rd party games on the system.
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No, it can't fill the niche, but it definitely lessens the novelty of games coming to Switch. Seeing, say, NieR: Automata portably isn't going to be the same to some when, right now, you can buy a device that'll likely run it at twice the performance and resolution. That + Steam Deck games aren't exclusive ports that you have to pay full price for, as are the majority of third-party titles. It's just simply not as exciting seeing these big PS4 titles releasing on Switch as it was back when DOOM was this massive thing.

As for "a good majority of Switch owners are fine with 3rd parties." Yeah, I'd say they're fine with them... but looking at the actual sales, they're not even close to the 1st-party stuff when it comes to sales and - in turn - popularity. Going by Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Nintendo_Switch_video_games there is a single third-party title in the Top 20 (a console-exclusive Monster Hunter game, so not a late port), and only 6 total in the Top 50 (excluding Nintendo collabs like M+R and HW:AoC). That's... not much. Especially when you consider how, of the few that are there, there's Minecraft, Among Us (massive casual titles) and Octopath Traveler (an exclusive published by Nintendo themselves in the West).

So, third parties definitely have an audience on Switch. I should know - I buy way too many of them, and there are some that I'd genuinely love to see on Switch (cough Fallout 3/NV cough). But, they are not as popular, and will likely never be as popular, as first-party titles, or third-party titles on Xbox/Playstation. As such, a Direct focusing on them is going to generate more disappointment overall than a regular, or 'regular' Mini.

MisterSpo said:
Ah, I see - my apologies. That makes sense.
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Cool, no worries :)
 
Fire Emblem is a first party franchise guys, they're not showing it in a partner Direct lol.

It's the kind of thing that would be used as the big opener or closer of a general.
 
I'd be interested in Nier Automata if it's a good port, but it's now been so long since it came out that it just wouldn't be a priority. And I'm going to be hard-pressed to find the gaming time for the things I'm already interested in.

One thing I'd like to see tomorrow would be Metal Slug Tactics. Advance Wars isn't going to feature, but we can still get us some tactical goodness.
 
Plum said:
No, it can't fill the niche, but it definitely lessens the novelty of games coming to Switch. Seeing, say, NieR: Automata portably isn't going to be the same to some when, right now, you can buy a device that'll likely run it at twice the performance and resolution. That + Steam Deck games aren't exclusive ports that you have to pay full price for, as are the majority of third-party titles. It's just simply not as exciting seeing these big PS4 titles releasing on Switch as it was back when DOOM was this massive thing.

As for "a good majority of Switch owners are fine with 3rd parties." Yeah, I'd say they're fine with them... but looking at the actual sales, they're not even close to the 1st-party stuff when it comes to sales and - in turn - popularity. Going by Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Nintendo_Switch_video_games there is a single third-party title in the Top 20 (a console-exclusive Monster Hunter game, so not a late port), and only 6 total in the Top 50 (excluding Nintendo collabs like M+R and HW:AoC). That's... not much. Especially when you consider how, of the few that are there, there's Minecraft, Among Us (massive casual titles) and Octopath Traveler (an exclusive published by Nintendo themselves in the West).

So, third parties definitely have an audience on Switch. I should know - I buy way too many of them, and there are some that I'd genuinely love to see on Switch (cough Fallout 3/NV cough). But, they are not as popular, and will likely never be as popular, as first-party titles, or third-party titles on Xbox/Playstation. As such, a Direct focusing on them is going to generate more disappointment overall than a regular, or 'regular' Mini.


Cool, no worries :)
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The average 3rd party port on Switch sells more copies then there are people who own Steam Decks. What are we talking about?
 
Nier Automata finally coming to Switch would be pretty cool, I guess, but that game already ran pretty poorly on PS4 (despite looking like a PS3 game), so I'm terrified to see how it would perform on Switch lol.
 
Also if I do get what I want out of tomorrow - Sparks of Hope release date, Metal Slug Tactics release date, Oxenfree 2 release date, Fantasian on Switch, Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters on Switch, some form of Dragon Quest release later this year - I am 100% going to complain about not having time for these things.

Please understand.
 
Plum said:
As for "a good majority of Switch owners are fine with 3rd parties." Yeah, I'd say they're fine with them... but looking at the actual sales, they're not even close to the 1st-party stuff when it comes to sales and - in turn - popularity. Going by Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Nintendo_Switch_video_games there is a single third-party title in the Top 20 (a console-exclusive Monster Hunter game, so not a late port), and only 6 total in the Top 50 (excluding Nintendo collabs like M+R and HW:AoC). That's... not much. Especially when you consider how, of the few that are there, there's Minecraft, Among Us (massive casual titles) and Octopath Traveler (an exclusive published by Nintendo themselves in the West).
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Outside of exclusive games and Nintendo 1st party games we have no data about how much Switch version of games sell so they are never included in these lists. If you check ps4 list is the same https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_PlayStation_4_video_games almost all games are exclusive or 1st party, multiple developers have said that the Switch has helped a lot sales wise (Gust,2k, Marvelous, NIS even Capcom with the late ports and MH:Rise) so I think most developers/publishers are happy with Switch software sales of their games.
 
Besides Nier Automata, which other games are being discussed/speculated? While RDR2 ain't happening, it's not too late for GTA V...
 
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BassForever said:
The average 3rd party port on Switch sells more copies then there are people who own Steam Decks. What are we talking about?
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Well, Steam Deck doesn't have "Steam Deck," games. It's a PC running a custom OS; its games are just Steam games.

Either way, those were two separate points. One about how the Steam Deck has reduced the novelty of big PS4 titles running on a handheld, and another about how third parties are not the primary type of game that people care about on Switch. They don't have anything to do with each other, apart from being in the same post.
 
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So I'm banking my excitement on Square. I've wanted to play FF Tactics forever but with Ogre leaking and speculation around FF rep being the pixel remasters...we have to keep waiting on FFT don't we.
I'm sure Ogre is cool but man I wanna experience the FFT story
 
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carlosfilho said:
It won't happen now, though it will probably appear in September at least.
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God, I hope, I'm really tired of waiting for this game to be revealed (especially since we got leaked pics of it already lol). Hopefully we actually get a normal general Direct in September to begin with...
 
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It's time!

(I hope 3 remake shows up too)
 
It’s interesting Nintendo couldn’t have just thrown Metroid Prime Remaster and a few other Nintendo announcements into this and just call it a Mini…

It makes me think we won’t get anything until September. Then announce Metroid Prime Remaster there for a November release.
 
I'm excited for Persona on Switch finally. Nier is totally in Shaq-I-Sleep meme territory for me, though. Goes for both games but especially replicant.
 
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Blue Monty said:
Outside of exclusive games and Nintendo 1st party games we have no data about how much Switch version of games sell so they are never included in these list. If you check ps4 list is the same https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_PlayStation_4_video_games almost all games are exclusive or 1st party
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That list is very, very strange. It has GTAV at 2.02million when the game's sold over 20million on PS4 alone. It also doesn't have any Call of Duty or Madden games, and only has a single Fifa game. I don't know what the hell they're basing taht on.

But either way, I really don't see why I should keep having to explain away why third-parties on Switch are - generally - not as big a pull as first-party games. The simple fact that you can get most Switch third-parties elsewhere should show this, but I chose to present some data instead to bolster my point anyway. I guess that was a mistake. I'll leave this here.

EDIT: I'll also add that I'm looking at things from a Western perspective here. Of course in Japan things are gonna be much, much different due to the lesser presence of consoles/PC gaming in that territory. But I'm not Japanese and neither are most of the people here so it's not relevant to me.
 
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Blue Monty said:
Outside of exclusive games and Nintendo 1st party games we have no data about how much Switch version of games sell so they are never included in these lists. If you check ps4 list is the same https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_PlayStation_4_video_games almost all games are exclusive or 1st party, multiple developers have said that the Switch has helped a lot sales wise (Gust,2k, Marvelous, NIS even Capcom with the late ports and MH:Rise) so I think most developers/publishers are happy with Switch software sales of their games.
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Heck we can see in Japan with how well late ports of stuff like Demon Slayer sell that the hype for 3rd party ports on Switch hasn't waned at all. The hardcore gamer bubble is really out of touch with the mass market, see bringing up the Steam Deck in any conversation.
 
Dark Cloud said:
It’s interesting Nintendo couldn’t have just thrown Metroid Prime Remaster and a few other Nintendo announcements into this and just call it a Mini…

It makes me think we won’t get anything until September. Then announce Metroid Prime Remaster there for a November release.
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Yeah I don't know how much sense it makes for there to be some mini first party direct next month. And if there is would a general in September make sense?
 
Dark Cloud said:
It’s interesting Nintendo couldn’t have just thrown Metroid Prime Remaster and a few other Nintendo announcements into this and just call it a Mini…

It makes me think we won’t get anything until September. Then announce Metroid Prime Remaster there for a November release.
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Nate has Sparks of Hope as late October/early November, and Pokemon is November 18th. Makes me think Prime HD may well get an early October slot, like Dread, in which case I'd expect an announcement next month. Doesn't necessarily mean it comes in a Mini, though.
 
LuckyNumber69 said:
Is there any speculation on potential new reveals at this Direct, or are we thinking it's gonna be mostly ports?
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Really good chance we'll see some reveals here. Tactics Ogre Reborn has to have it's reveal soon based upon how detailed the psn leak was :p
 
LuckyNumber69 said:
Is there any speculation on potential new reveals at this Direct, or are we thinking it's gonna be mostly ports?
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For this Direct specifically? I haven’t seen anything but there were multiple lower-profile games in that Capcom mega leak that could potentially make an appearance. I just wouldn’t bank on it.
 
Plum said:
That list is very, very strange. It has GTAV at 2.02million when the game's sold over 20million on PS4 alone. It also doesn't have any Call of Duty or Madden games, and only has a single Fifa game. I don't know what the hell they're basing taht on.
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It's based on the same as Switch list, just official data we have that publishers or 3rd party companies have given us, and when it comes to FIFA do you think it also isn't a million seller on the Switch every year? It charts in multiple European charts almost every week and there are a lot of weeks when is the best selling version of the game, FIFA/2K success on the Switch (and eBaseball in the case of Japan) shows that when publishers release the games (even if what EA does with Fifa Switch isn't even releasing a new game) the games do sell. Of course Switch doesn't sell as much 3rd party games from the big publishers because they don't release the games there, when they do the games sell. Also of course 3rd parties don't sell as much as 1st party games, 3rd parties on PS/Xbox also don't sell as many units as Nintendo does, why it would be different on the Switch.
 
It is funny seeing some Youtubers having to do prediction videos for a third time: One for the Direct that was totally happening on the 15th, one for the General Direct happening on 29th, and now one for actually announced Partner Showcase tomorrow.
 
Plum said:
No, it can't fill the niche, but it definitely lessens the novelty of games coming to Switch. Seeing, say, NieR: Automata portably isn't going to be the same to some when, right now, you can buy a device that'll likely run it at twice the performance and resolution. That + Steam Deck games aren't exclusive ports that you have to pay full price for, as are the majority of third-party titles. It's just simply not as exciting seeing these big PS4 titles releasing on Switch as it was back when DOOM was this massive thing.
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This is a take that is massively overblown & only ever really pushed by enthusiasts. We said the same thing with the PS4/X1 v. Switch, said the same thing with the GPD Win & other various devices. Now we are doing it with the Deck. A machine that a vast majority of people cannot get & to do so is limiting.
Plum said:
As for "a good majority of Switch owners are fine with 3rd parties." Yeah, I'd say they're fine with them... but looking at the actual sales, they're not even close to the 1st-party stuff when it comes to sales and - in turn - popularity. Going by Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Nintendo_Switch_video_games there is a single third-party title in the Top 20 (a console-exclusive Monster Hunter game, so not a late port), and only 6 total in the Top 50 (excluding Nintendo collabs like M+R and HW:AoC). That's... not much. Especially when you consider how, of the few that are there, there's Minecraft, Among Us (massive casual titles) and Octopath Traveler (an exclusive published by Nintendo themselves in the West).
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If your looking at actual sales then you would know that lots of 3rd parties are successful on the system. Nintendo is always going to dominate the charts on their own systems so using charts isn’t the best metric. We know from analysts, companies, & data that 3rd parties have done well on the system.
Plum said:
So, third parties definitely have an audience on Switch. I should know - I buy way too many of them, and there are some that I'd genuinely love to see on Switch (cough Fallout 3/NV cough). But, they are not as popular, and will likely never be as popular, as first-party titles, or third-party titles on Xbox/Playstation. As such, a Direct focusing on them is going to generate more disappointment overall than a regular, or 'regular' Mini.
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Sure I’m not denying that but that goes back into a chicken and egg scenario for 3rd parties. They have routinely ignored/not put their best effort on Nintendo systems thus necessitating Nintendo to prop up their systems. Now that they are “back” they don’t have the cache with the audiences on those systems because they have never been built or poorly maintained.

The caveat to this are indies who have done great on the system & people are excited for. That is where Nintendo can build enthusiasm for 3rd parties much like Apple did with their exclusive crop of mobile developers after the bigger ones ignored that platform.
 
MisterSpo said:
Nate has Sparks of Hope as late October/early November, and Pokemon is November 18th. Makes me think Prime HD may well get an early October slot, like Dread, in which case I'd expect an announcement next month. Doesn't necessarily mean it comes in a Mini, though.
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Ok I see. Yeah if it’s early October Nintendo wouldn’t wait until a September Direct. It’s too late. Next month sounds feasible. The thing is if there’s enough for Nintendo to warrant another direct before September. Stuff like dlc can be dropped on Twitter. Everyone 1-2 Switch is a twitter drop. Could mean Metroid Prime Remaster is a twitter drop too.
 
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